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Banana03
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Is it possible to be immune to the effects of salvia?
#7822102 - 01/01/08 11:37 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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I read all the time about people "breaking through" on salvia and having these really strong experiences. And I have never been able to experience anything close to any sort of strong trip or anything off of salvia. I remember reading when I first got interested in salvia a year and a half ago that you trip harder on it than lsd or mushrooms. I have not gotten the opportunity to try lsd yet, but I have tripped on mushrooms several times and never have I ever experienced anything on salvia that comes close to the times I was on mushrooms. I started out smoking leafs about a year ago, and I all they made me do was laugh uncontrollably, which I understand is all the leafs should do. From leafs I have gone on and smoked 5x, 10x, 20x, 30x, and 40x. The 30x and 40x being of the Purple Sticky brand. Now I definitely have felt something when I smoked them, but I've never really tripped. The biggest visual effect I've gotten from smoking the extract is one time my friends faces looked like they were kind of clay characters, only not really. Hard to explain but that's how I'd say they looked. I've never gotten any crazy mind trips, or closed eye visuals.
After a year of not smoking any salvia after disappointing attempts with the 30x and 40x, I recently came across some 5x and 20x. And I find myself to still be disappointed by the lack of desired effects. To my knowledge I believe I am smoking it the right way. Being sure to hold it in for at least 30 seconds, and taking 2-3 hits of it. The thing is though that I am not using a torch lighter, just a normal one, but I can't see this as being the big difference in my inability to break through.
So my question is, is it possible that some people are just immune to the desired effects of salvia? Am I doing something wrong that I am unaware of, or is my quest to truly experience salvia just not meant to be?
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Robo
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Re: Is it possible to be immune to the effects of salvia? [Re: Banana03]
#7822121 - 01/01/08 11:44 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Quote:
Banana03 said: Is it possible to be immune to the effects of salvia?
Highly unlikely. What are you using to smoke it?
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Banana03
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Re: Is it possible to be immune to the effects of salvia? [Re: Robo]
#7822130 - 01/01/08 11:48 PM (16 years, 30 days ago) |
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Just a small one hitter. Hesitant on busting out the bubbler due to the chance of the salvia hitting and potentially dropping the bubbler.
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Re: Is it possible to be immune to the effects of salvia? [Re: Banana03]
#7822138 - 01/01/08 11:52 PM (16 years, 30 days ago) |
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do it laying back on your couch or on some pillows or somethin so if you drop it, it wont break.
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Robo
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Re: Is it possible to be immune to the effects of salvia? [Re: Banana03]
#7822140 - 01/01/08 11:53 PM (16 years, 30 days ago) |
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The most effective way to smoke salvia extract is to use a bong.
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Re: Is it possible to be immune to the effects of salvia? [Re: Robo]
#7822150 - 01/01/08 11:57 PM (16 years, 30 days ago) |
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I have never broken through either and i have smoked the purple sticky 40x many times. I just spoke to a friend recently who said environment is key. He claims that doing it in a pitch black room is the way to go. I plan on trying it next time i have the cash for it, but tomorrow my money goes to mushrooms
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Robo
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Re: Is it possible to be immune to the effects of salvia? [Re: budsmoke]
#7822154 - 01/01/08 11:59 PM (16 years, 30 days ago) |
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Environment has nothing to do with it, technique is everything.
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yageman
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Re: Is it possible to be immune to the effects of salvia? [Re: Robo]
#7822175 - 01/02/08 12:06 AM (16 years, 30 days ago) |
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People have all sorts of different brains.
They are not all wired the same. Some people may even lack in the receptors needed to experience salvia in an extreme way.
I get massive visuals on one hit of leaf. That says a lot.
You cant really be entirely immune, and in your case, you clearly are not immune. You can have less developed receptors, and your brain may not work in a way that would lend you the intense trip that salvia provides so many people.
This is all totally true. Some people dont get visuals from .3 grams of mushrooms, but I sure as hell do. Some people dont see visuals on one hit of 20x salvia extract.
You are not immune. Your brain works in a funky sort of way, and im not saying that is even uncommon.
All our brains work funky. Your head doesnt absorb the experience. Its the composition of your matrix of neurology, and/or a lack of the needed receptors.
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Re: Is it possible to be immune to the effects of salvia? [Re: Robo]
#7822190 - 01/02/08 12:11 AM (16 years, 30 days ago) |
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try a torch lighter too. i've heard it helps but isnt necessary.
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Re: Is it possible to be immune to the effects of salvia? [Re: origami.octopus]
#7822205 - 01/02/08 12:15 AM (16 years, 30 days ago) |
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origami.octopus said: try a torch lighter too. i've heard it helps but isnt necessary.
Butane lighter is the only way to go. Any other way doesnt produce quite the same effect.
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Robo
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Re: Is it possible to be immune to the effects of salvia? [Re: Banana03]
#7822207 - 01/02/08 12:16 AM (16 years, 30 days ago) |
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Im telling you, take a huge bong rip or two and hold them as long as you can before you exhale.
If after trying out of a bong you still don't get the full ride then maybe your brain is wired differently as yageman has said. However I still find it unlikely that one can be immune to Salvinorin.
It's all about the technique. Salvia is the only thing that comes to mind that you have to have to actually know how to use to get the effects, and many have abandoned it altogether because they couldn't get any real effects(when in reality they just didn't have proper technique).
Try again
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mother_of_pearl
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Re: Is it possible to be immune to the effects of salvia? [Re: Banana03]
#7822209 - 01/02/08 12:16 AM (16 years, 30 days ago) |
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I read on a couple sites that 10% of people that try Salvia it has no effect on. You are the first I have heard that has figured that out and have really tried to feel the effects rather than giving up. Good luck with everything else.
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Re: Is it possible to be immune to the effects of salvia? [Re: newlife]
#7822298 - 01/02/08 12:46 AM (16 years, 30 days ago) |
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Butane lighter
All lighters use butane gas, it's just a matter of how it comes out. Torch lighters use a higher pressure stream of it whereas a normal lighter just releases a fairly low-pressure stream of gas.
I don't know why but the term "butane lighter" has always bothered me. what other kind is there?
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Re: Is it possible to be immune to the effects of salvia? [Re: Banana03]
#7822372 - 01/02/08 01:06 AM (16 years, 30 days ago) |
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I dont know, but its definitely possible to suck at smoking it properly.
Try a gravity bong.. one big bowl frying rip.
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Re: Is it possible to be immune to the effects of salvia? [Re: Acyl]
#7822482 - 01/02/08 02:23 AM (16 years, 30 days ago) |
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I can experience effects at about 10x. The wall of illusory reality start to fade away at this point and I begin to definitely "break-through". However, a friend of mine has unsuccessfully tried several times to breakthrough with salvia 20x and 30x with absolutely zero results. I do believe some people have a natural resistance to salvanorin a.
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Re: Is it possible to be immune to the effects of salvia? [Re: sig.tactical]
#7823364 - 01/02/08 11:33 AM (16 years, 30 days ago) |
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I agree with what Omni said. Get a real bong, take 1-2 big hits out of it, hold for 20 seconds, and tell me it doesn't send you flying.
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Re: Is it possible to be immune to the effects of salvia? [Re: LSDaytripper]
#7823532 - 01/02/08 12:13 PM (16 years, 30 days ago) |
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Salvia doesn't effect some people nearly as well as others. I do one hit off a bong and it launches me to Salvia land. My first mate psychonaut has to take 4 or 5 rips to even get the salvia gravity. So who knows?
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Re: Is it possible to be immune to the effects of salvia? [Re: Skeeblix]
#8122171 - 03/09/08 01:25 AM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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Uhh. Zippo lighters?
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Re: Is it possible to be immune to the effects of salvia? [Re: timmeh_87]
#8122179 - 03/09/08 01:31 AM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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use a torch, also yageman says salvia has a reverse tolerance, hit a tiny bit of it in a bowl 15-30 minues beforehand, and then pack a bowl use a torch lighter and hold it in till you break through. Take as big a hit as you can.
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Re: Is it possible to be immune to the effects of salvia? [Re: Banana03]
#8122625 - 03/09/08 08:02 AM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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1- smoke your entire dose in a SINGLE hit 2- hold the lighter to the material the entire time you are hitting it. it's not like weed where you can let it cherry as you pull, a direct flame must be applied to it the whole time. a normal lighter is fine, you don't need a torch lighter 3- hold in your hit and count to 20 in your head as you set down the bowl and lighter
doing all of these will result in breaking through, provided your dose is high enough
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Re: Is it possible to be immune to the effects of salvia? [Re: ravin0fff]
#8122668 - 03/09/08 08:18 AM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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^ This dude has it right.
The rule of salvia is, when you think you've lit the entire bowl (or cashed it) hold the lighter on it for 10 more seconds and keep breathing in. You have to take monster rips and hold them in for 20-30 seconds. Preferably out of a bong.
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Edited by LSDaytripper (03/09/08 08:19 AM)
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Re: Is it possible to be immune to the effects of salvia? [Re: LSDaytripper]
#8122715 - 03/09/08 09:00 AM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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do you smoke a lot of weed some time before the salvia? IME weed negates the effects, although a few people have reported it enhancing.
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