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Cannashroom
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LSD and DNA
#7821862 - 01/01/08 09:58 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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It is common knowledge here that Francis Crick was on LSD when he first thought of the Double-Helix structure of DNA. I have tried, unsuccessfully, to find more information about this, but it seems there is very little. I would like to know what the x-rays of Roslin Franklin revealed about DNA structure and what Crick/Watson actually came up with, if anyone knows a lot on this subject I would love to hear about it.
Moving on, I recently did a project on PCR for my chemistry class. PCR is the Polymerase Chain Reaction, and is the revolutionary process that allows for a specific sequence of DNA to be multiplied, billions of times, take from even an entire set of DNA, like the 46 chromosomes of humans. The target sequence is amplified exponentially, more than doubling each time, where as the other material remains relatively recopied. While researching this I found out that the discoverer, Kary Mullis, attributed his discovery to LSD. He says that from his trips he was able to get down to the "molecular level" and visualize molecules. As he put it he could sit on a strand of DNA and watch the Polymerase (DNA enzyme) go by. He said at the time of his revolutionary idea, which changed biochemistry and molecular biology completely and got him a nobel prize, he was at the molecular level just visualizing strands of DNA.
He says this in the Video Horizon:Psychedelic Science, which can be found at: http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=6540905926032767614&q=horizon+psychedelic+science&total=3&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0
I found this very interesting as there are claims of ayahuasca allowing communication with DNA. What are other peoples thoughts on this topic? Do psychedelics give insight into DNA, and at what level?
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im_on_a_boat
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hell yea i mean if you know what you're talking about then it would definitely give you a different and more natural point of view.
maybe the drugs cause a mini-regression and cause humans to be more instinctual which allows those doing research to tap into instinctual knowledge which may be subliminal but can be accessed with the use of psychedelics.
pretty much the same thing as in waking life (where ethan hawke and that chick are discussing stuff laying in bed) and altered states..
just some speculation..
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Seventy
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wow that's really interesting
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yageman
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Cannashroom said:
I found this very interesting as there are claims of ayahuasca allowing communication with DNA. What are other peoples thoughts on this topic? Do psychedelics give insight into DNA, and at what level?
You have no idea.
This is very real. The intelligence of dna.
Its accessible. Essentially, you can tap into what dna has provided the human mind with neurologically. There are all sorts of tools that involve inherently direct communication with dna.
Dont believe me?
Ill save a better explanation for a time when im sober.
I was into psychedelics without ever reading about them, and for a long time. You wouldnt believe some of the shit that came out of my head without the influence of outside sources. When I did start to read about psychedelics, I was all the more amazed by the significance of my own experiences.
Self conscious neurology. Your dna *can provide you with some strange tools. Thats how you communicate with it, and there is much more depth to it than that.
Then there are things that are really hard to explain and/or believe. Ill save those for later. If you wonder why my post is so long but so short at the same time, its because I have dealt with this concept for so many years, know alot about it, and dont want to misrepresent the concepts because I have a few beers in me.
There are collections of sound so complex that you couldnt have created them "personally" but for some reason they come from your brain. Most people dont hear them, or communicate with them. They are most definitely there, but not all people can hear them even on psychedelic drugs.
There are some strange and unbelievable things hidden in that brain of yours, and dna is the culprit.
God only knows..................lol
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Edited by yageman (01/01/08 11:47 PM)
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RobMarley420
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Cannashroom said: It is common knowledge here that Francis Crick was on LSD when he first thought of the Double-Helix structure of DNA.
I never knew that or heard anything about that.
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yageman
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dingleberrysalad said:
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Cannashroom said: It is common knowledge here that Francis Crick was on LSD when he first thought of the Double-Helix structure of DNA.
I never knew that or heard anything about that.
Oh! Well thats because youre a fucking idiot.
Jesus christ people im kidding. Settle down.
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Re: LSD and DNA [Re: yageman]
#7822327 - 01/02/08 12:52 AM (16 years, 30 days ago) |
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I've read and you would probably enjoy "Dancing Naked in the Mine Field" by Kary Mullis. Ever since I read this book I've been a huge fan of his! ;-) http://www.amazon.com/Dancing-Naked-Mind-Field-Mullis/dp/0679774009/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1199264405&sr=8-1
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Re: LSD and DNA [Re: Seventy]
#7825693 - 01/02/08 10:11 PM (16 years, 30 days ago) |
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definitely man, lsd wakes you up on the celluar level. I feel as if all my cells are concious of being alive even on very low doses, like 1/2-1hit. I can only imagine where I would take myself with 10-20 dose range and some inner exploration
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Re: LSD and DNA [Re: outhere4]
#7826032 - 01/03/08 12:16 AM (16 years, 29 days ago) |
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g00ru
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Re: LSD and DNA [Re: Coaster]
#7826116 - 01/03/08 12:48 AM (16 years, 29 days ago) |
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Thats some interesting shit.
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Re: LSD and DNA [Re: g00ru]
#7826450 - 01/03/08 04:49 AM (16 years, 29 days ago) |
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Very cool video, never saw this one. Thanks for the post, definitely interesting stuff
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Re: LSD and DNA [Re: andrewss]
#7826488 - 01/03/08 05:48 AM (16 years, 29 days ago) |
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yeah, i've seen alot of weird things on lsd that seemed to be science based.
for instance i saw that what looked liked higher dimensional black holes. in other words black holes that don't suck up matter, they suck up quantum sized particles, and they're kind of like gateways between realms or whatever.
so when they discover that remember i said it before it was official.
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yageman
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truekimbo2 said: yeah, i've seen alot of weird things on lsd that seemed to be science based.
for instance i saw that what looked liked higher dimensional black holes. in other words black holes that don't suck up matter, they suck up quantum sized particles, and they're kind of like gateways between realms or whatever.
so when they discover that remember i said it before it was official.
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Ive had that same "thought". In my "thought", they suck parts of you in to the micro and spit information back out into the macro of cognition. Micro meaning the physics of the mind and self conscious neurology, and then the "sucked in" information is relayed back to you aside from time perhapse. In the dark blind areas reaching other dimentions of consciousness, perhapse even different dimentions entirely, It comes back to you from the periphery of thought and eventually the evolved version of this system reaches the portal again in time. Its like a never ending cycle. Over and over. Sounds weird ay? .<>.<>.<>.<>.<>.<>.<>.<>.<>. <-----------lol
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truekimbo2
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Re: LSD and DNA [Re: yageman]
#7829989 - 01/03/08 10:25 PM (16 years, 29 days ago) |
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hahaha, yeah thats kind of close to what i saw. i'm not sure how that would fit into normal physics though, thats why i say 'quantum particles' i think generally is a whole lot of energy science can't measure yet, and when they find it they'll notice it seems to keep appearing and disappearing from this universe. thats when they'll discover these quantum sized black holes that are like portals bettween universes.
also i saw that universes are connected by black holes, the black holes in this universe create smaller universes and so on. these quantum sized black holes eventually cause universes to collapse and loose all their energy because it leaks into other dimensions...
i don't know, i can see it in my head pretty good, but i don't have the science talk for it.
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