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Delta9Hippie said: I do see where you are coming from though, but the fact is that white people enslaved THE WORLD for a very long time, and it wasn't until the last 100 or so years that this has become unofficial, yet the same continues...
Your argument is unsound. All the "white" organizations in power that you mention have people of other races in them, some of them in pretty powerful positions. Case in point: Kofi Annan, UN Secretary-General. Perhaps one of the most powerful men in the world.
And while white and non-race oriented organizations usually have fairly strict rules to prevent even the appearance of racism, race based (non-white) organizations openly proclaim that they are black only.
-FF
I think you missed my point, probably due to my wording and somewhat jumbled explanation. When I talk of slavery, I don't speak of the examples, (African American slave trade being the one you have chosen), I mean to talk about the concept of slavery. The forceful pressuring of dominance over a person, or in these bigger cases, groups, whether as an indentured servant pressured by the threat of terrorism via mind, spirit and body, or as it is mostly seen today, in economic terms. I want to mention the current global power structure set forth by the West (white, western european descended peoples). I also want to mention the temporal aspect, as in where we live today on a time scale dealing with slavery and the race issue. And then to address these organizations that are racist against whites.
Firstly, your claim of Kofi Annan being one of the most powerful men in the world is just outrageous. Logically, it would follow that you are saying that the UN is one of the most powerful organizations in the world. This simply is not so. The UN is simply a materialization of relations between other countries. It is not powerful, the only power it receives is from its supporting countries, the ones that can use it best to their advantage. The UN is not autonomous, therefore it has no real power. Sure, the UN is a big political force, but by big I mean globally recognized, but by no means powerful. For example, members consistently disobey laws and rules they have helped set forth within the UN applying to everyone, and they do so without any form of relative punishment. Secondly, the UN has no military force, nor economic in the big scheme of things. It is a puppet show... Darfur, Burma, Tibet, Rwanda, The Congo, Iraq, Afghanistan... Come to think of it, doesn't it look like the UN merely tries to portray itself as accomplishing a lot, when relatively speaking it has no real power to accomplish real important goals, like taking action to end genocide when it declares it (Darfur region of Sudan) to be genocide, as it and all its members are required to do as stated in its own mandates? They do put a lot of positive ideas on paper, great ideas I would love to see acted upon, but the harsh reality is that when it comes down to it, they have no power and the accomplishments the achieve are so minimal that they seem somewhat insulting to the people of the world.
Speaking of power... The only real power, in the global scheme of things, is economic and military. The US, hands down, has this power as seen in the business world... which speaks English, a language developed by white people, with white ideas of reality built in to it, as any language sets the stage for reality to play out. The world runs on dollars, $$$ is an internationally known sign, what's the sign for the Yen? The Chinese currency is called what? Hmm, it seems the Dollar and the Euro are the most widely known and used currencies, from the countries that are White originally & still white dominated. Also, weapons manufacturing, from developmental technologies to sales are biggest in the West, thus White people control the weapons market, and since it is a free market, they are free to sell to whom they choose, thereby playing a big part in the geopolitical game. As well, we have a huge military presence around the world, bases in almost every country, and whites are the ultimate nation builders & puppeteers. You can argue that China manufactures a lot of weapons as well, but technologically speaking, they are way behind, in the US alone, we spend SO much in the weapons sector, that any other country attempting the same would shrivel since they don't maintain the power we do, globally. And by we, I mean the top of the top of our culture, the elite whites, which I am probably not a part of, but my society tells my psyche to take pride in the fact that they live here. If you want to get into numbers here in the US, the ratio of race as seen in the mass population, and then to representatives in national government is revealing for some, others prefer to see the economic layout, where whites control over 90% of the wealth, and on average, have 15 times the wealth of an African-American...
So, I haven't hit all my points, but I'm tired and I'm sure I'm taking up enough space on this news article thread. Oh, and why would you want to go to an All Black school, or be part of an all black organization? I think that might play into whether or not your are allowed in. And if your cause is noble and just, and you are turned down specifically because of your race and no other reason prevailing, then that is a lawsuit any reasonable lawyer would take up without a cent up front from you. Basically, what I'm saying is there is a lot of junk out there to sift through, but Whites have got it made if they realize it. And briefly, these big movements for racial equality here in the US are relatively new and get huge publicity because they hit these emotional buttons for all sides concerned, and almost everybody subscribes to racial groups, whether they actually exist or not is another debate...
This has been fun.
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