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Re: Ecstasy is a safe drug, says police chief [UK] [Re: Divided_Sky]
    #7837563 - 01/05/08 10:26 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

The thing with prozac though, is that it is prescribed to a group of people that are much more likely to kill themselves in the first place. I understand it can cause depression, but the amount of people that would have otherwise not killed themselves if they weren't on it will never be known. Personally though, Paxil made me much more depressed then I was before I took it.


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Re: Ecstasy is a safe drug, says police chief [UK] [Re: fapjack]
    #7837618 - 01/05/08 10:38 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

same here, Paxil turned me into a madman - So glad Im off of that shit now

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Re: Ecstasy is a safe drug, says police chief [UK] [Re: fapjack]
    #7838485 - 01/06/08 08:51 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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fapjack said:
You sited a study on neurotoxicty on rats administered MDMA, and a memory study on humans (with no controls BTW).
... These studies don't prove jack shit on the safety of MDMA use, and the fact that the one has almost no controls makes it pretty unscientific.
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Each and every post you amaze me with the level of your scientific ignorance.

You want to rant about controls when it's apparent that you don't have any understanding of what you're talking about. I'm not really sure exactly what study you're complaining about. Most human MDMA studies are epidemiological studies. There is no control because it's a study, not an experiment.

http://www.thedea.com/

If you check out the link I provided you'll see the history of MDMA studies. It provides 160 footnotes from peer reviewed journals and the author is a biochemist that has reviewed roughly 1,500 MDMA related pieces of research.

If you want to see where your anti-MDMA rhetoric and imaginary dangers come from the site will provide you with the complete history and background of the government sponsored studies done by anti-drug shill pseudo-scientists.

http://thedea.org/neurotoxicity.html

I'll leave you with a quote...

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Ultimately, the question of Prohibition as a social policy comes down to some rather basic questions of how dangerous drugs really are, and how we can most effectively protect people from those dangers. These are questions that science can answer, and indeed, is answering. On almost a weekly basis, some new study comes out finding that prohibition has failed, or that the drugs they have deionized aren't nearly as sinister as we've been told. In the end, the drug war is winnable, and is being won...just not by the Prohibitionists. They lost the argument the day science and reason turned their attention to drugs and the drug problem and realized that the bigoted and simplistic answers the Prohibitionists were selling were irrational and impotent. We're winning the drug war because our side is the scientifically correct one. The truth favors us. All Prohibition has left is a rapidly depleting stockpile of ignorance and fear, and we will hunt down their lies one by one until there is nothing left for them to do but admit defeat.





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All fapjack has left is a rapidly depleting stockpile of ignorance and fear, and his lies are being hunted down one by one until there is nothing left for him to do but admit defeat.






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Re: Ecstasy is a safe drug, says police chief [UK] [Re: fastfred]
    #7838914 - 01/06/08 11:24 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

I know the person that runs thedea.org, its saintjude from dancesafe. I haven't talked to him for years, but I could give 2 shits less what he says, not enough information exists to prove either theory. There's a few people on bluelight that know just as much as him and disagree with him.
Argue with the people here
http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=357603
I'm done.


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Re: Ecstasy is a safe drug, says police chief [UK] [Re: fapjack]
    #7839067 - 01/06/08 12:17 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

<---- Complete PWNAGE of fapjack finished.

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Re: Ecstasy is a safe drug, says police chief [UK] [Re: fastfred]
    #7841601 - 01/06/08 09:52 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah, I'm sure all the 14 year olds and people stupid enough to listen to you are celebrating.


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Re: Ecstasy is a safe drug, says police chief [UK] [Re: fapjack]
    #8507490 - 06/10/08 01:56 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Dude ive been on E around hella guys never ever did i ever think of doing that shit. That means your actually gay.


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Re: Ecstasy is a safe drug, says police chief [UK] [Re: fastfred]
    #8508247 - 06/10/08 06:02 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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-FF




What the, Cannabis is second only to cocaine?! Do hundreds of thousands of americans really eat too many hash cakes and ring up 119 to say "hello, yes, I think I'm dead, please get me an ambulance."


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Re: Ecstasy is a safe drug, says police chief [UK] [Re: Visionary Tools]
    #8508932 - 06/10/08 08:48 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

ya and also i bet a lot of them are from cops manditory shiznit


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