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Tasmanian not producing psilicybin?
    #781792 - 07/28/02 11:44 AM (19 years, 2 months ago)

I posted this in the general forum, they told me to ask here. hmmph
okay heres the problem:

So I have tasmanians growing mad. I dried my first flush. Using a food dehydrator, no heating unit. I dosed a good 4 grams dry. I felt NOTHING. They blue reallly well. I know they are tasmanians. I got the spores from ralphster. Maybe theyre just a look alike that blue? They also have dark purple prints. I dont know Its very disappointing that I put so much time and effort into my babies, and nothing. Anyone know what could be the problem?


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Re: Tasmanian not producing psilicybin? [Re: bloo_sunshine]
    #781944 - 07/28/02 01:01 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

when you say blue really well, do you mean they were blue?
what were the situations surrounding the consumption?
what substrate?
are you sure the dehydrator is free of a heater unit? most have one.
and are you sure that they were truely cracker dry, and not just dry on the outside.. that could throw off your weight quite a bit.


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Re: Tasmanian not producing psilicybin? [Re: bloo_sunshine]
    #782055 - 07/28/02 01:45 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

Some people naturally have a tolerance to the active chemicals produced. Have you ever tripped before on mushies? If not have you ever had experience with other tryptamines and if so how was it.


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Re: Tasmanian not producing psilicybin? [Re: bloo_sunshine]
    #782060 - 07/28/02 01:52 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

Hmmm.....my bet is on the dehydrator......everyone i know that uses them seem to have the same problem.....if your sure they are cracker dry then try raising the dose...... try taking some fresh mushies and either dosing fresh or fan dry them.....once again though make sure they are completely dry......

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Re: Tasmanian not producing psilicybin? [Re: bloo_sunshine]
    #782077 - 07/28/02 01:59 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

hmmmm

strange happenings.....

i had tasmania a couple months ago,
i ate 7 grams dry and would have tripped a bit,
but then decided to bump my dose up another 6 grams.

ssure did work nicely for me that night.

tasmanian is my favorite strain, so uniform..

Good luck bro,
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Re: Tasmanian not producing psilicybin? [Re: Sporz]
    #782129 - 07/28/02 02:21 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

you ate 13 grams dry... thats nearly a half..
you ate 7 grams and would have tripped a just a bit?
perhaps you need to re-evaluate your strain or how your consumeing them!..
that would be one hell of a trip...


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Re: Tasmanian not producing psilicybin? [Re: DinoMyc]
    #782226 - 07/28/02 03:16 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

A friend of mine also grew many many tasmanians and they too...were weak weak weak. he has much experience and cultivates many other cubie strands..

he got them from the hawks eye

wondering why? not technique problem for sure... produced more mushies and had the most beautiful pin set but weak!



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Re: Tasmanian not producing psilicybin? [Re: gamemaster]
    #782836 - 07/28/02 09:36 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

That sucks. Choking down dried cubensis is really not my favorite thing, eating 13 grams would make me puke by the 4th gram.

I like eating PR's just cause I dont need many and they doo me well


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Re: Tasmanian not producing psilicybin? [Re: Sporz]
    #783106 - 07/29/02 01:41 AM (19 years, 2 months ago)

if you need to eat that many grams dry of tasmanians you are either full of shit (which is likely) or you may as well find yourself another substance...
Tassies are potent cubensis in my opinion, but maybe your sporematch was bad...


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Re: Tasmanian not producing psilicybin? [Re: Zen Peddler]
    #783131 - 07/29/02 02:36 AM (19 years, 2 months ago)

13 grams!? Wow, I think you need a new scale.


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Re: Tasmanian not producing psilicybin? [Re: We_come_in_peace]
    #783155 - 07/29/02 03:39 AM (19 years, 2 months ago)

yea i think 13 grams is a bit of an exaggeration to impress people or somethin. 7 grams of good, dried shrooms would make me trip like hell!


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Re: Tasmanian not producing psilicybin? [Re: Cubies4Me]
    #783576 - 07/29/02 09:35 AM (19 years, 2 months ago)

Everyone is so quick to judge. Why is it so unbeleiveable that someone would eat 13 grams, perhaps he ate it over a period of hours. I had a friend who ate a 1/2 oz of B+. He did freak out really bad, but he lived through it . He told me he was looking at his arm and it turned into a flipper right before him. Then he went and apoligized to his parents for all the years of drug abuse (for they had kicked him out a few months prior) He flipped out.
I hope this is believable.
That sucks that the tassies did not work, I like PR's I only eat like 1.5grams and that's enough for me.
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Re: Tasmanian not producing psilicybin? [Re: josh057]
    #784167 - 07/29/02 02:44 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

13 grams is a afull lot of shrooms my friend once ate 25 fresh azures stright from the coast and lost all control of his muscles couldnt even eat bread thats how weak his muscles were


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Re: Tasmanian not producing psilicybin? [Re: Zen Peddler]
    #784271 - 07/29/02 03:34 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

On a few occasions I have eaten 12 grams of treasure coasts. I have slowly worked my way down to 5 per trip only because I had no memory of whether I even had a good time or not. So I believe he may have taken that many, it was probably inferior mushies.


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Re: Tasmanian not producing psilicybin? [Re: bloo_sunshine]
    #784484 - 07/29/02 05:04 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

Hey everybody,

GGreatOne234 Shroomer here (Sporz),

Naw, i usually do not weigh out my doses, but i did that night.

My tasmania's were just fine.. my ex girlfriend and i walked around by the gulf of mexico that night, it was fantastic, i was trippin good.

I Shroom about every 2 weeks or so..

I ate the 7 grams in one mouthful and 10 minutes later had another mouthful of 6.

...is that hardcore? hee hee

Have a Shroomy day and a many Shroomy nights,
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Re: Tasmanian not producing psilicybin? [Re: Zen Peddler]
    #784517 - 07/29/02 05:24 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

Awww blue meanie, you should know better..

A half ounce is usually the highest i will go,
It really drains me for a day or so after..
And there really is no reason for me to go higher.

14 grams is a tall order i admit, but it is just fine,
No hallucinations, i just feel like half mushroom half human for the night.

On the New years eve of 2000 i had taken close to 12-14 grams of what i suspected to be B+,
Well i got trapped inside of our two room tent (we were at a big concert in the everglades big cypress national park),
Locked inside that tent i freakin lost it.
Went to the gates of heaven and then sat at a table with the devil himself with all the paper work to sell my soul to him.. and mjshroomer said that it would be a white wedding for me, huh, don't think i don't remember that shit mj
Once i found my way out of that damn tent everything got better..

So long as i am not trapped inside of a tent that felt like a rubix cube with no gravity, im fine. ..it was a rather painful experience but once out of that awful tent i looked into the mirror in my old car and there was that pretty face of Cubensis smiling at me..

Eh, whatever,

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Re: Tasmanian not producing psilicybin? [Re: bloo_sunshine]
    #785353 - 07/30/02 12:29 AM (19 years, 1 month ago)

How big are you?? The first time I ate 4 grams I really didn't feel all too much. I'm 6 and half feet tall and weigh 270 so I have to consume more than the average person. It takes me about 6-7 grams to have visuals.


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Re: Tasmanian not producing psilicybin? [Re: blacksabbathrulz]
    #786371 - 07/30/02 02:21 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

I got my spores from Ralphster, and I did some research and they ARE NOT Tasmanians they are THAI "LIPA YAI" 's Anyone else have any experience with this strain? Im sure they were cracker dry and everything else. I will eat them fresh, Ill see what will happen. Im guessing the gene pool WAS bad. Anyone have any PR prints? Syringes? I only have money, haha I dont think anyone wants THESE prints.


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Re: Tasmanian not producing psilicybin? [Re: bloo_sunshine]
    #786460 - 07/30/02 03:12 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

Hmms, weird.
Well, I've just grown some Lipa Yai from a print I got from Ralphster, so I'll let you know if they have much effect when I get a chance to try them.


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Re: Tasmanian not producing psilicybin? [Re: GGreatOne234]
    #786500 - 07/30/02 03:36 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

I should know better? Read my post! I didnt say that you cant do it and I for one have in the past eaten that much cubensis (when I later realised that I could have eaten a lot less of a better psilocybe and had a better experience).
He's post says that they barely had any effect - at seven grams that is bullshit if they are tassies = Lipas are a different issue though - we ate a casing each of those and got no effect - vendor hype sucks balls!!!


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Re: Tasmanian not producing psilicybin? [Re: Zen Peddler]
    #786505 - 07/30/02 03:40 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

14 grams is a huge amount of dried mass btw - i for one have never had the time or inclination to eat two full plates of dried cubensis when i could pans or higher psilocybes...


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Re: Tasmanian not producing psilicybin? [Re: Zen Peddler]
    #787409 - 07/31/02 01:43 AM (19 years, 1 month ago)

Lipa Yai is a kick arse strain
Effects at .5g and id say 1.2g is the same as 2.5g B+
The most ive had is 6g dried and that was intense
Theres nothing wrong with Lipa Yai its strong and electric
It also has a strong blueing reaction both from te dried product and from overaged spawn jars.
Which reminds me - that oft quoted paper on mycelium only containing actives after the hyphal knot stage is FOS.Ageing colonised substrates like millet will cause the production of actives too.Just like in commercial streptomyces broths.
There is growth and full exhaustion of the nutrient base followed by a period if increased secondary metabolites shortly after.


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Re: Tasmanian not producing psilicybin? [Re: E_morel]
    #787411 - 07/31/02 01:47 AM (19 years, 1 month ago)

also
if you are having probs with a strain yake some rue or Capi
then eat 1 to 2 dried grams and see if the problem the shrooms or your inbuilt tolerance due to high MAO levels


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Re: Tasmanian not producing psilicybin? [Re: Sorted]
    #787446 - 07/31/02 02:50 AM (19 years, 1 month ago)

In reply to:

Hmms, weird.
Well, I've just grown some Lipa Yai from a print I got from Ralphster, so I'll let you know if they have much effect when I get a chance to try them.



and the verdict is..they're very nice Certainly above average potency. What research did you do to decide you had Lip Yai anyways? You can't really judge just on appearance since there's so much variation.


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Re: Tasmanian not producing psilicybin? [Re: Sorted]
    #789573 - 08/01/02 01:59 AM (19 years, 1 month ago)

its the nature of mushroom genetics that the same spore race could produce spore-matches with varing fruiting characteristics, varying colonisation, vary potency etc...Its more pot luck with multispore than spore-race genetics


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Re: Tasmanian not producing psilicybin? [Re: Zen Peddler]
    #790068 - 08/01/02 08:58 AM (19 years, 1 month ago)

dude take a rpint send it too me i will grow them out and tell you how i fell about them if they do work i will send ya back a couple more print i just wanna see if they work or what


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Re: Tasmanian not producing psilicybin? [Re: bloo_sunshine]
    #791876 - 08/02/02 06:11 AM (19 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: Tasmanian not producing psilicybin? [Re: bloo_sunshine]
    #792487 - 08/02/02 12:31 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

My $0.02....

Some people must have some natural tolerance to the chemical. I'm 6'2 and 215, and I generally like a dose of 5-7 dried grams for a fun time....but I have to take a LOT more to get up to level 4 or beyond (like double the dose). My size alone can't account for this, as others here who are as big as I or even bigger tell of tripping very hard on 4g or less.

Fresh vs dried doesn't seem to matter, either. A couple of weeks ago about 80g of fresh Tazzies fell out of the sky, and I accidentally ate em ...Lots of fun, but mild visuals and only lasted about 4-5 hours.

My wife (at 5'6 and 130 lbs--hope she doesn't see this thread! ) went all out and had 7g dried of the same mushies, and she was in never-never land for about 2-3 hours. Interestingly, when she started to come down, it was like someone had flipped a switch--boom! One minute nearly incoherent, the next mostly fine. Wierd.

Anyway, these were Tazzies and the potency seems to be fine for everyone--even for me, I just have to eat more. So, someone taking 13g dry and not losing it is not unbelievable at all, at least to me. Some people have to eat more, some people are lucky enough to be able to get the same experience with less. I'd never tell anyone to "just slam down 9 or 10 grams and see what happens", but by the same token, advice to start with "1.5 or 2g" may result in a very minimal experience in some people.

If other people tripped off lesser doses of your mushies, then it's possible that you are somewhat naturally tolerant. Up your dose. If NO one trips on the fruit, then your dehydrator will be the prime suspect. How they're stored after drying will have an effect on their potency as well.

Start another culture with your original spores and one with spores from your harvested fruit and see if the resulting mushies are different in potency. Maybe it was just a poor spore match.

Anyway, like I said, my $0.02--and I hear 9g of Tazzie aborts calling my name......


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Re: Tasmanian not producing psilicybin? [Re: bloo_sunshine]
    #794187 - 08/03/02 12:10 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

When did you get these? Where they prints or syringes? My friend got some taz syringes from ralpster with a post mark dated towards the end of june. They are just about fully colonized and was wondering when you got yours? He wants to compair potency reports with you so please either PM me to let me know when you got them or post the date as close as you could remember it. I'll let you know regardless how they turn out when this kid finishes them.


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Re: Tasmanian not producing psilicybin? [Re: bloo_sunshine]
    #10463393 - 06/06/09 11:33 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

you must have gotten a bad spore match like the last guy said . i got some tassys and i grew those as my second strain i ever grew . i only grew b+ to start but i had to eat so many b+ to trip so i thought it was the same for tassys . HELLL NO !!!

I dosed 11.5 grams between me and my cousin and it COMPLETELY IMMOBILIZED US.  i did not know how to walk ,eat , or anything all i could do was sit for 13 hours and listen and talk like everything was real slooooooooooww, like playing a slowed record or tape. i still have not eaten shrooms since that lol that was  3 months ago.


long story short tassys are freaking potent ill get you a print for somthing if you want some REAL SHIT lol.

pm me as i got a new batch to fruit in a week or two if anyone wants to buy a print or vaccutanier of spores ready for syringes.

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Re: Tasmanian not producing psilicybin? [Re: nickelz34]
    #10463412 - 06/06/09 11:36 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Did you realize this thread is 6 yrs old :lol::getstoned:


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Re: Tasmanian not producing psilicybin? [Re: schutzemdown]
    #10464865 - 06/07/09 10:38 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

and just so no one starts picking this up about dehydrators. That was not the reason for week shrooms. many use dehydrators set to 150F with little to no loss in potency.


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Re: Tasmanian not producing psilicybin? [Re: bloo_sunshine]
    #10464911 - 06/07/09 10:54 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

This thread has been closed.

Reason:
Considering that this noob post was off topic in advanced mycology six years ago, and the original poster hasn't been seen in five years, eleven months, it's a safe bet to assume he won't see the reply.

It's time for this thread to be put out of its misery.
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