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Question about ego loss/death (kind of a continuation of my thread about
    #7817911 - 12/31/07 05:34 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

I know there are many threads regarding ego loss/death, however my question is regarding my personal experience so i thought it was worth posting a new thread.

Ok so those of you who read my previous thread know that I understood this idea of "it" and was trying to figure out what it was.

I finally had a trip where i felt like I was begining to understand "it" as some super being (god?) that our existance is basically part of the evolution or growth of this being. Thats pretty much all I can remember casue i made myself forget it as soon as it happened fearing what would happen if I fully accepted this idea. However I left myself notes which I think is the only reason I still remember this much.

When this happened I had a very strong feeling that I was going to be ejected from reality if I fully accepted or understood this idea, I even had small visuals of reality being distorted and a sensation of motion. However now I'm beggining to think that what actually would have happened is I would have achieved ego loss/death,(I say loss/death, since I haven't experienced either so am not sure which one would happen)

So can someone confirm that what i nearly experienced was in fact the begining of ego loss/death, and if this is the case then I have a few more questions for those who have experienced this...


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Re: Question about ego loss/death (kind of a continuation of my thread about [Re: ny2casports89]
    #7817955 - 12/31/07 05:46 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

The straight definition would be:
"It is characterized by the perceived loss of boundaries between the self encased in skin and possessing a physical body and environment as a whole, a sense of loss of control, and the loss of the accustomed feeling of existing as a personal agent"


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Re: Question about ego loss/death (kind of a continuation of my thread about [Re: Anarleaf]
    #7818005 - 12/31/07 06:06 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Ok well with that said, i'm going to go ahead and assume what I experienced was the beggining of ego loss/death. Now for my questions.

If I did decide to fully accept the realizations that I had, and achieved ego loss/death, at the time I was very concerned that in doing so I would become "one with the universe" however after becoming "one with the universe" I would not be able to return to my physical body. Is this at all a legitiment concern, or will you almost certainly regain your ego eventually?

Also If you do lose your ego and you regain it will it be almost like a rebirth? And if so does that mean I would almost be a different person, just with the experinece and knowledge that I have now? And finally if it does result in me being a different person, so to speak, would I have the ability to mold what kind of person I became?


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Re: Question about ego loss/death (kind of a continuation of my thread about [Re: ny2casports89]
    #7818126 - 12/31/07 06:59 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

It sounds like your not quite there. You don't have a option to enter or exit ego death, it just happens. Not only until after you get your ego back do you understand or try and understand what just happened to your mind.


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Re: Question about ego loss/death (kind of a continuation of my thread about [Re: ny2casports89]
    #7818161 - 12/31/07 07:12 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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ny2casports89 said:If I did decide to fully accept the realizations that I had, and achieved ego loss/death, at the time I was very concerned that in doing so I would become "one with the universe" however after becoming "one with the universe" I would not be able to return to my physical body. Is this at all a legitimate concern, or will you almost certainly regain your ego eventually?



Although it's not legitimate in the "literal" sense, this feeling of really letting go of ones sense of self is by nature anxiety-provoking because it can be more than a trifle unnerving to experience a deeply convincing disintegration of personal identity and the boundaries of the ego. One can however take some measure of comfort in the knowledge that the meat of the experience is transitory because it is substance-induced. The vast majority of people ("prepared") for the depth of such an experience will be able to at least stagger away from it. Some will experience it as one of--if not the--most difficult psychic injuries since birth.
In my opinion, the manner in which people navigate (substance-induced) ego loss is partly a function of the way they manage ambiguity. If your first impulse is to quantify, analyze, and hope to resolve abstractions then you could drive yourself crazy trying to reduce such a potent and novel 'experience' to familiar terms.


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Re: Question about ego loss/death (kind of a continuation of my thread about [Re: Land_Crab]
    #7818180 - 12/31/07 07:22 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

can ego loss also mean emotionless?

to me egoloss implies no attachment and ecstacy but ifits true ego loss isnt it feeling NOTHING?

because earlier on a mega dose 10g+ i felt nothing at all for w while then bad tripped because i felt dead.


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Re: Question about ego loss/death (kind of a continuation of my thread about [Re: ny2casports89]
    #7818570 - 12/31/07 10:32 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Ego death is when you just... stop. I don't think of it as experiencing some kind of supreme being. Its more like when your body is just as significant as the chair or wall. Its all the same.


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