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    #7817270 - 12/31/07 02:21 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

I am trying to install a new CD burner.

I got the case open, installed it in place of the failing drive, and then reset.

Drive failure.

Then, I thought I might need to install drivers, but when I did. it didn't do anything.

Any quick fixes??? Yes, it's plugged in.


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Re: Computer Help [Re: AroundtheSon]
    #7817281 - 12/31/07 02:24 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

well, wtf does drive failure mean? Is that an error message that's popping up, does the drive not power on, does it not burn right, what's wrong with it besides "drive failure"?

Because, honestly, if the damn thing doesnt work out of the box there is a chance you got a dead unit and need to go replace it.


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Re: Computer Help [Re: AroundtheSon]
    #7817284 - 12/31/07 02:25 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

You don't need drivers. What position on the IDE cable is it on, and what position is the jumper in?

What is the error you are getting? It the error in Windows, or the POST (bios) screen? Is it recognized on the bios?


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Re: Computer Help [Re: coda]
    #7817286 - 12/31/07 02:26 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Excellent. I don't know what drive failure means. I have tried placing the unit in the each of the two slots my computer has. Each of them, after reset, says Drive Failure.

While looking for Drivers, I found a lot of people saying the drive I got was shit...perhaps it is dead???

Thanks bro.


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Re: Computer Help [Re: AroundtheSon]
    #7817290 - 12/31/07 02:27 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

right, but, where are you seeing the message drive failure?


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Re: Computer Help [Re: Cakes]
    #7817293 - 12/31/07 02:27 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Preface: I don't know that much about computers..

I reset and it says Drive Failure...so I hit f12 and go into the setup shit. I It has a Master Primary and Slave.

I believe my Hard Drive is Master....


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Re: Computer Help [Re: coda]
    #7817294 - 12/31/07 02:28 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

I guess I could call it Dos....right before initiating windows?


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Re: Computer Help [Re: AroundtheSon]
    #7817303 - 12/31/07 02:29 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

The directions say the hard drive is the primary IDE channel, and any drive I am using are the secondary channels.Install this drive as the master device on the secondary channel and any other devices as slaves to this new drive.


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Re: Computer Help [Re: AroundtheSon]
    #7817307 - 12/31/07 02:31 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

After you press F12 and you see the master and slave listing, do you also see a listing for your hard drive and cd burner?

It sounds like the computer could be trying to boot from the CD Burner...

After you press F12, look for a section that has options for boot settings. Make sure you are booting from the hard drive.

Also, make sure there is no floppy disk in your floppy drive.


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    #7817318 - 12/31/07 02:34 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

First of all you never ever want to run your CD drive on the same IDE cable that your HD is hooked up to. There should be two IDE slots available for you to use on most Motherboards. One slot is for your hard drive(s), the other slot is used to run your optical storage (cd drives). The primary/slave that was being discussed was referring to the order of cd drives you have installed. If you're running only one drive then it is the master and must be setup accordingly. This means locating the jumper in the back of the device, looking up what position it needs to be in with your manual, and setting it. If you're running two drives one needs to be a master and the other a slave. It's been a while but i believe the first of two connectors on the IDE is the master and the last one is the slave (on the end that has two connectors close together). As before your jumpers need to be set correctly.

However from where you're seeing this error im assuming it's the actual drive and not a setup issue. Usually if you have your array configured wrong the system just won't recognize the drives and boot normally. If you can do so cannibalize another drive from a desktop and check it out.


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Re: Computer Help [Re: coda]
    #7817324 - 12/31/07 02:35 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

t sounds like the computer could be trying to boot from the CD Burner...




nah, this wouldn't be the case. Even if the machine was set to boot from CD if there's no bootable media in the drive or the drive is not found it just moves on to the next device in the list.


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Re: Computer Help [Re: coda]
    #7817347 - 12/31/07 02:41 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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coda said:
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t sounds like the computer could be trying to boot from the CD Burner...




nah, this wouldn't be the case. Even if the machine was set to boot from CD if there's no bootable media in the drive or the drive is not found it just moves on to the next device in the list.




I've found that this isn't always the case. Some systems seem to get stuck on the first one in the boot order, and some will completely bork the boot order when a new device is installed, leaving only one in the lineup.


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Re: Computer Help [Re: coda]
    #7817363 - 12/31/07 02:45 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Alright, when booting it says

Diskette 0 seek failure.

then after several seconds (30)

Primary 1 cannot be found
Primary 2 cannot be found

Press 1 to continue or something else to setup. (something approximating this message)

After further reading the directions, I don't think I have a jumper cable, nor ever have I. I think I have two IDE cables and the Master is on the bottom.

What settings should I seek to make sure it's booting from the harddrive.

And how can I make it recognize the new hardware - windows notices it immediately???


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Re: Computer Help [Re: AroundtheSon]
    #7817382 - 12/31/07 02:50 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

well, when you go into setup (which is like F1 or F2 during boot) there should be a setting that allows you to change your boot order. The first device in your list should be your hard drive.

There is no jumper cable, its a switch in the back. The jumper is a little plastic piece that covers pins in the back of the drive. It designates the drive as master/slave/ (one more setting but it's not used often anyways).

Windows should automatically pick up the new hardware and install the drivers for it no problem. You shouldn't have to do anything.


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i really am glad you came back to us instead of taking the other path. *hug*

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Re: Computer Help [Re: coda]
    #7817542 - 12/31/07 03:34 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

WE DID IT!

Thanks guys.:heartpump:


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