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$500 in traffic fines
    #7816910 - 12/31/07 12:30 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Boo.
Stupid no talking on your cell phone while driving laws.
Judge was kinda an asshole to me too, but really nice to the three DWI cases before me.


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Re: $500 in traffic fines [Re: jewunit]
    #7816944 - 12/31/07 12:39 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

So you think talking on your cell phone doesn't afffect your driving?


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Re: $500 in traffic fines [Re: Baeosistine]
    #7816955 - 12/31/07 12:42 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

I think I can talk on my cell phone while driving and still be a better driver than most people...


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Re: $500 in traffic fines [Re: circularvortex]
    #7816973 - 12/31/07 12:48 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

^ true. I can also be drunk & drive better than most people, I still sound like a moron when trying to bitch about getting busted for it.

Not that I mean to call |\| 3 1 in da thread a moron.

Next time just throw it on speakerphone/handsfree!


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Re: $500 in traffic fines [Re: jewunit]
    #7816982 - 12/31/07 12:51 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

I don't feel sorry for you. Driving while using one hand to talk on the phone is unnecessary and dangerous. Get a hands free device.


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Re: $500 in traffic fines [Re: jewunit]
    #7816986 - 12/31/07 12:52 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

They must have known you were a jew. They tend to up the fees when that happens.


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Re: $500 in traffic fines [Re: TrippinTeddy]
    #7816997 - 12/31/07 12:57 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: $500 in traffic fines [Re: CMACD]
    #7817065 - 12/31/07 01:21 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

It's a law to protect the safety of others. I'm not saying you deserved it. You may still be a perfect driver while on the phone, but not everyone is and the cops and people need to look out for that. About the the judge being an asshole... maybe he was in a bad mood. Ahh I dunno.


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Re: $500 in traffic fines [Re: adrian7812]
    #7817085 - 12/31/07 01:27 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Yeah maybe his whole entire family was driven over and killed totally by a crazy driver talking on their cell phone.


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Re: $500 in traffic fines [Re: jewunit]
    #7823690 - 01/02/08 12:59 PM (16 years, 30 days ago)

500 for talking on a cell while driving,wow this country gets more fucked up daily, i wish they had it in california though, so many idiots getting into accidents while on cell phones, 500 is a bit high though


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Re: $500 in traffic fines [Re: 5150]
    #7823739 - 01/02/08 01:10 PM (16 years, 30 days ago)

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500 for talking on a cell while driving,wow this country gets more fucked up daily, i wish they had it in california though, so many idiots getting into accidents while on cell phones, 500 is a bit high though




oh it's definitely illegal in california now, but the fine is more like 25$ (something like that, too low for anyone to give a fuck) and everyone still does it


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Re: $500 in traffic fines [Re: jewunit]
    #7823751 - 01/02/08 01:13 PM (16 years, 30 days ago)

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$500 in traffic fines



Shitty.


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Re: $500 in traffic fines [Re: jewunit]
    #7823763 - 01/02/08 01:17 PM (16 years, 30 days ago)

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Re: $500 in traffic fines [Re: BrAiN]
    #7823830 - 01/02/08 01:38 PM (16 years, 30 days ago)

It's the same way with the automatic camera ticketing devices they have installed all around Phoenix. Since no officer actually witnessed the violation, the tickets HAVE to be reversed if you take them to court. But the letter they send with the ticket is so threatening that 95% of the people just send the money anyway.

I think it's illegal as hell, and technically it is.


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Re: $500 in traffic fines [Re: Jadian]
    #7823897 - 01/02/08 02:02 PM (16 years, 30 days ago)

But at least there is some physical proof of the offense with the camera. I bet a lot of states don't even let you fight it


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Re: $500 in traffic fines [Re: BrAiN]
    #7823901 - 01/02/08 02:04 PM (16 years, 30 days ago)

How is a picture physical proof? How is there physical proof for any speeding offense?


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Re: $500 in traffic fines [Re: Baeosistine]
    #7823916 - 01/02/08 02:09 PM (16 years, 30 days ago)

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So you think talking on your cell phone doesn't afffect your driving?




i drive just fine when talking.

luckily its not illegal here yet :smile:


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Re: $500 in traffic fines [Re: robbyberto]
    #7823926 - 01/02/08 02:12 PM (16 years, 30 days ago)

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How is a picture physical proof? How is there physical proof for any speeding offense?




i think hes talking about the cameras that get you for running a red light. they cant prove your speed, bit they can prove you ran a light.


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Re: $500 in traffic fines [Re: robbyberto]
    #7823935 - 01/02/08 02:17 PM (16 years, 30 days ago)

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How is a picture physical proof? How is there physical proof for any speeding offense?




Uhhh because the camera has YOUR license plate and it only takes the photo when a car is speeding.

The only way the camera would be wrong is if the technology wasn't working right or if someone ELSE had the EXACT same license plate as you with the EXACT same make/model of car. I doubt a judge would find either one of those very likely. A lot of speeding cameras will not only take the photo of your car and license plate number but ALSO a picture of *YOU* yourself in the driver's seat to prove it was actually you. A buddy of mine had this happen to him.


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Re: $500 in traffic fines [Re: robbyberto]
    #7823946 - 01/02/08 02:21 PM (16 years, 30 days ago)

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How is a picture physical proof? How is there physical proof for any speeding offense?




There is LAZER technology in speeding cameras, the same the cops have with the speed detectors.... They shoot your car with a couple really quick lazers and determine the distance you went between time1 and time 2... these usually being less than a fraction of a second of each other. This actually calculates an average speed for the distance travelled.

Again, you'd have to convince the judge that the technology isn't calculating speed correctly or that it isn't taking the photo of the correct vehicle, which isn't likely. You'd need a hardcore lawyer threatening a class action to to get this kind of ticket to be overturned.


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Re: $500 in traffic fines [Re: BrAiN]
    #7823955 - 01/02/08 02:24 PM (16 years, 30 days ago)

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How is a picture physical proof? How is there physical proof for any speeding offense?




Uhhh because the camera has YOUR license plate and it only takes the photo when a car is speeding.

The only way the camera would be wrong is if the technology wasn't working right or if someone ELSE had the EXACT same license plate as you with the EXACT same make/model of car. I doubt a judge would find either one of those very likely. A lot of speeding cameras will not only take the photo of your car and license plate number but ALSO a picture of *YOU* yourself in the driver's seat to prove it was actually you. A buddy of mine had thi
s happen to him.



It's still not physical, concrete proof. You know what I mean. I'm just arguing a technicality. I understand the technology and where you're coming from.


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Re: $500 in traffic fines [Re: robbyberto]
    #7824056 - 01/02/08 02:58 PM (16 years, 30 days ago)

Yea but if you're going to say that isn't physical proof then you have to say the cop's rader guns are'n't physical proof because they use the same technology.


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Re: $500 in traffic fines [Re: BrAiN]
    #7824144 - 01/02/08 03:27 PM (16 years, 30 days ago)

Cops don't need proof. I was convicted of a crime I did NOT commit based solely on circumstantial evidence. I'm currently waiting on an appeal that will go before a jury instead of just a district court judge like the first trial.

$500.00 is to high imo but people do need to shut up and drive. The hands free thing is no good. The problem is not a lack of hands on the wheel. The problem is divided attention from the outside conversation. It's not the same as talking to someone who is also in the car with you. Likely someone also in the car with you is also watching the road and following along better when you momentarily shift more concentration to driving when needed.

Wrecks are not the only problem either. I've noticed that a lot of people subconsciously slow down while talking on their cell phone. I despise getting stuck behind someone poking along below the posted speed while yakking away on the phone. Makes me want to get out at the next stop and ram it down their throat.

STFU and drive!


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Re: $500 in traffic fines [Re: TripityDooDaDay]
    #7824153 - 01/02/08 03:29 PM (16 years, 30 days ago)

Amen.. not to mention anyone who wears those bluetooth head sets looks like a douche


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Re: $500 in traffic fines [Re: BrAiN]
    #7824159 - 01/02/08 03:30 PM (16 years, 30 days ago)

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How is a picture physical proof? How is there physical proof for any speeding offense?




Uhhh because the camera has YOUR license plate and it only takes the photo when a car is speeding.






you cant cross examine a camera on the witness stand, you also are not given
ample opportunity to have the calibration tested on the scene of the infraction
cops have to allow you to record certain info form their machine, show you it's
been calibrated and working properly, etc... you can beat that too but it's a
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Re: $500 in traffic fines [Re: BrAiN]
    #7824198 - 01/02/08 03:41 PM (16 years, 30 days ago)

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Amen.. not to mention anyone who wears those bluetooth head sets looks like a douche




i dont mind looking like a douche :smile: its the fucking best way to talk on the phone.


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Re: $500 in traffic fines [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #7824211 - 01/02/08 03:44 PM (16 years, 30 days ago)

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BrAiN said:
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robbyberto said:
How is a picture physical proof? How is there physical proof for any speeding offense?




Uhhh because the camera has YOUR license plate and it only takes the photo when a car is speeding.






you cant cross examine a camera on the witness stand, you also are not given
ample opportunity to have the calibration tested on the scene of the infraction
cops have to allow you to record certain info form their machine, show you it's
been calibrated and working properly, etc... you can beat that too but it's a
different can of worms




hey pris. what exactly should one say to a cop to get this info? what is the best thing to say to a cop when being pulled over for speeding? ive had so many damn tickets in the last 2 years i should probably learn the technicalities and what to say...... :nonono:


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Re: $500 in traffic fines [Re: LeftyBurnz]
    #7824274 - 01/02/08 04:06 PM (16 years, 30 days ago)

first thing to remember is to try not to stand out in his mind, he'll remember you
in court otherwise, usualy when you're pulled over it's best to stay put, have
your papers ready and turn on your interior light, give him some reason to feel
safe when approaching the car

cop steps up and usualy says "know why I pulled you over?", no sir is the best
answer, he'll inform you of your speed and generally offer to show you how the
radar operates by clocking another car or a tuning fork, they call it a
calibration test, if the officer uses a tuning fork, ask him what key it's in,
unless he's a musician he'll be clueless, tell him it's stamped on the end.
keep the banter friendly and short, never more than they need to know.

while it's best to handle most stuff on the scene theres somethings you'll have
to do after the fact, recording the make and model of the radar unit, it's
serial number and it's service/calibration records, this is done by filing a
motion for discovery, it needs to contain anything you believe to be pertinent.
Some things to consider is the officers certification on the use of the radar
gun, the standards set by the US Government for the tuning forks used. (I
believe there was never one set, may have changed though) Without that standard
which all will have to match in frequency it's inadmissible as evidence


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Re: $500 in traffic fines [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #7824542 - 01/02/08 05:44 PM (16 years, 30 days ago)

awesome. written down and stored.

you know, ive NEVER had a cop offer to show or tell me anything about the radar. sons of bitches.

when youre in court for the ticket, then what?


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Re: $500 in traffic fines [Re: LeftyBurnz]
    #7824576 - 01/02/08 05:54 PM (16 years, 30 days ago)

plead not guilty, present your case, hopefully theres enough to dismiss the
evidence and possibly discredit the witness, for instance if a friend goes to get
the info on the radar unit, the cop will remember him beforehe does you, have him
point out the guy that got the ticket

think like a lawyer and learn the laws in your area, be nosey when it comes to cops


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Re: $500 in traffic fines [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #7824698 - 01/02/08 06:19 PM (16 years, 30 days ago)

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plead not guilty, present your case, hopefully theres enough to dismiss the
evidence and possibly discredit the witness, for instance if a friend goes to get
the info on the radar unit, the cop will remember him beforehe does you, have him
point out the guy that got the ticket

think like a lawyer and learn the laws in your area, be nosey when it comes to cops




thanks for the info pris! i wish i would have known all of this like...... 7 tickets ago?? lol


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Re: $500 in traffic fines [Re: jewunit]
    #7824881 - 01/02/08 06:58 PM (16 years, 30 days ago)

What a crock of shit!  :lame:


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Re: $500 in traffic fines [Re: jewunit]
    #7824934 - 01/02/08 07:13 PM (16 years, 30 days ago)

i wish oregon would have this law. just about every time i see an idiot do something stupid when driving, their holding a cell phone to their ear.


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Re: $500 in traffic fines [Re: BrAiN]
    #7825199 - 01/02/08 08:15 PM (16 years, 30 days ago)

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But at least there is some physical proof of the offense with the camera. I bet a lot of states don't even let you fight it




Pictures can't provide sufficient proof of the violation committed period. This is why every traffic camera speeding violation can and MUST be thrown out if taken to the state court level. If there's no officer present to witness said violation, it is in fact illegal to send a ticket.

Not only that but they send you the ticket in the mail. This is also illegal. You have to be properly served by a person that can verify the ticket was put into your hands.

On top of THAT the violation has to be signed by a human, which these aren't. They're all signed via the same electronic system that is set up to take the pictures in the first place.

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Re: $500 in traffic fines [Re: jewunit]
    #7825649 - 01/02/08 10:01 PM (16 years, 30 days ago)

I wasn't exactly trying to get sympathy, just saying it kinda sucked. Resulted in a bunch of other fines that were all my fault. I just wasn't pleased with the way the judge treated me.


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Re: $500 in traffic fines [Re: jewunit]
    #7825866 - 01/02/08 11:10 PM (16 years, 30 days ago)

Well then you simply must fuck his *daughter and cum in her eye.






*or son if he doesn't have a daughter.


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Re: $500 in traffic fines [Re: Jadian]
    #23397176 - 06/30/16 11:27 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Sorry.  I edited and deleted cus I just not in a mood for any drama that could come out of commenting.    I think other posters covered the same thing anyways


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Re: $500 in traffic fines [Re: Skillzd]
    #23397237 - 06/30/16 11:44 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I have handsfree in my car. Does that mean that from the factory being able to talk through your car, is illegal? I feel like its a thing on how bad of a mood the cop is in when he encounters it.


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Re: $500 in traffic fines [Re: LSDollar]
    #23397276 - 06/30/16 11:57 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Hands free is legal I think everywhere  That's why they are building it into new cars.


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