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LSD: The Virtual Soundboard, God, and Infinity (pics!!)
#7816005 - 12/31/07 05:24 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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I think there is a very high magnitude of correlation between the sounds you listen to, and the visuals created by LSD; Not to say the visuals are strictly sound related. Obvious honorable mentions go to fact you are on a psychedelic, colours and patterns of things all contribute to the unique landscape of LSD. However, after doing what I feel to be the start of serious research when associating LSD with the Music Experience, there is a BASICALLY defineable relationship between LSD and music. A virtual mixing board that has many functions and applications when LISTENING to and playing music. To simultaneously hear and see, and sometimes feel (in a more intense way) just how a song is constructed opens up new avenues for the composer and the listener. Plus, it is a lot of fun.
Music is mathmatical. It is related to the Fibonacci sequence, although in- directly when put in the context of certain musical scales. All in all, music is like an irrational number do to the fact in can ascend in either order, up or down. (A-G, or G-A, until our organic brain can no longer hear the tones. 1.68, or -1.68) Simply put we can comprehend the ratio itself, and the relation from one number to the next, but not the whole. In this effect, the Fibonacci Sequence can at least be used as a metaphor in how it relates to what Key you are playing in.
In music, a song is in a Key; The starting point, or the source of the form of the song. What Key do you prefer to play in? Which section of the percieved spiral do you prefer to start in, and ride your scale up and down? Most people who sing and play guitar only really play in the keys their voice fits in with well, knowing their limits and capabilities, and fortunatley for those not constrained by their voice or those into instrumentals, you can travel ANYWHERE in the infinitum of music. Music is very forgiving when dealing with decision making: It is not so much, "Apolly, I can't do this because of my limitations", it is "how am I going to limit myself?" An overworked song is a good example of a musician who was overwhelmed by the limitless capabilities. Some discipline is important to create good music, I think--the very fact you have to sit down and learn your instrument is a good indication of this, although some like to take their technical skill further. I'm a Dylan-Guthrie songwrite type of musician; I still had to learn to play, though.
So we have the basis that a song is in a key derived from a starting point in a realm of endless oppurtunities. After we decide what key we are playing in, we can go foward and play the song! From this starting point, the musician will lay down MANY, MANY points, or "points of relativity" In other words, the artist is simultaneosuly displaying the notes themselves and the space between; notes that do not have space between each other is simply a hum...a singularity point. Relativity is lost. The notes have relation to each other, they are different: This allows for association and the ability to comprhend waves. And boy oh boy do these waves make shapes! When combining the POINTS and spaces between a song, while connecting the many layers of these points (notes), you should be able to "see" shapes in your head. Geometries that manifest while on LSD or not.

Notice in the picture that I made all the connections between the notes in this imaginary, crappy song. That is why I think you keep listening to the same song over and over, because since you can look at music as shapes, and shapes compose our physical enviorment, a good sing can be looked at as a place you visit until you found every secret cove or hideaway. Some songs almost seem too big though...and allow for repeated visits. I might make different connections next time, or the same; regardless, that song is not finished being listened to.
The only way this works of course is because of memory; if your memory did not expand or extend past the duration of a single note, it'd probably not allow for a friendly listening experience. Most of us, I feel has a song memory long enough for the music to take us places. Long enough, so that by minute two of a good song, you will be asking yourself "how did I get HERE?" and then you replay the song to remind yourself how you got there. It is a long journey from home sometimes (A long journey from the key of a song) Personally, a weird quality of music I can't even think I can explain is how you really don't dwell TOO MUCH on what was played before; Music is very good a TELLING you to "be here, now" with just enough mind on the past and future to make the now enjoyable. Again, using the aspect of relativity to define the quality of now.
My virutal sound board is a multi-colored layer of effects that seem to have a direct of correlation or a very real cross-wiring that allows me to view song in three angles simultaneously: Distorted time, colors, shapes. I feel this benefits a musician, because since colours can always be broken down numerically to a point, and shapes as well, you can theoretically "play anything" that contains colors or shapes. Seeing how colour is quantumly subjective due to the particle/wave duality nature of light, it'd be no surprise each of us would probably have a different song describing the colour pink or a trapezoid. Pink Trapezoid? That's a cool band name, to me.

Memory is the most important factor, I feel in getting the most out of your audiovisuals. Essentially, our brain is programmed with this ultra-complex sound board; that is why you can "imagine" the next highest note in the scale. Your ears have a limit, and I think your brain does, too. The brain starts where the ears and eyes end. Me, personally, I can only think of a sound high pitched up to a point-where I reach a singularity point and my mind is void. Thoughtless and a formless drone that resonates after I break through the highest possible key I can reach.
In this context, meaning is defined as causality. I get more meaning sometimes while playing or listening to music on LSD simply because there seems to be many refrence points in which to each event, as opposed to the "mudane progression" of sobriety. Each note I play has a feeling, colour, shape, and quality to it! Wowee!!! What DOES that mean? I don't really know, but it is cool enough to make me want to trip. I mean, I have to smoke A LOT of weed, or try really hard to get even BASIC effects similar. Even if LSD is a meaningless crosswiring and arrangement of delayed signals, it allows me to approach something differently with preferable results, and THAT means a lot. LSD simply gives you more causes for music. Essentially, it gives you "keys" to open more doors. The "key" being the cause of whatever form you turn into as you jump from the starting point. They key of a song, the source of the form, the birth of a child--That is one thing I try to bring back from LSD or Shroom trips: Sources in which I can use as the basis for expression. I think that is pretty cool and means a lot.
Music is absolutley wonderful. The key word there being Wonderful. I love to express wonder, and wonder and music is like the best thing since sliced WonderBread. I wonder what he is gonna play next? I wonder what a T-Rex sounds like? Good music always leaves me in a state of wonder, sober or not. It is very much like a high, allowing you to access desirable conciousness realms. A good song will confine you in its sense of freedom. It won't let go from you and you are trapped. I am trapped in the Mario Theme for eternity. I love that song so much, and it makes me happy. Never felt so free in a prison of sound. A prison with rules, and maths. Good music practically defies itself: How can something that can be broken down into math bring out qualia (the senses, or sense of feeling) in yourself, which by current science standards there is no way to even define HOW to define the qualia. In other words, your experience isn't measurable. Something that is measurable creates something that isn't. Music always leaves me wondering.
P.S: I think the fibonacci sequence was worth mentioning, just because of how it occurs in nature, exists and music, and that meaning your brain must contain the equations to comprehend it. That is another topic though.
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Re: LSD: The Virtual Soundboard, God, and Infinity (pics!!) [Re: Apollyphelion]
#7816066 - 12/31/07 06:31 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Bach used to encode language in his compositions. He would deliberately choose key, choose sharp and flat, to spell out a message. He believed that even the uninitiated could "feel" the intended words, even if she couldn't read music.
Six weeks or so ago, I played banjo on mushrooms. I used my fingers, my hands, to press and pluck string. The instrument pulled energy from the earth through the soles of my feet, I could see the sound coalesce into shapes, one after another. I felt it as well as heard it and saw it, felt it rise from different muscles, tendons, bones, as each note echoed a different frequency. I realized that my body and my mind both have a much more sophisticated method of evaluating and experiencing music than simply through my ears. Orgasmic, it was.
Honestly, I felt that I had tapped into whatever it was Bach understood - that we are creatures who move through music. It owns us, it creates us, and we help catapult the message every time we let our attention massage the melody.
I've never taken LSD, never had the opportunity. I imagine, from your description, that it would help one see the ultimate mathematical pattern behind the layers of aural sense and emotion.
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Re: LSD: The Virtual Soundboard, God, and Infinity (pics!!) [Re: littlebirdie]
#7816405 - 12/31/07 09:26 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Great reply!
I feel music hits us at very real levels simply because it is based on patterns, rhythms, shapes, and all of that good stuff- It is like it makes us feel at home because music in itself is like a Microcosm of reality; all parts infer the whole.
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I've never taken LSD, never had the opportunity. I imagine, from your description, that it would help one see the ultimate mathematical pattern behind the layers of aural sense and emotion.
I don't think it is ultimate. Ultimately workable though. To quote Ram Dass, I think psychedelics are like a finger pointing to the ultimate, but we can ultimately never get there. Similar to Don Juan's Ixtlan. Music to me is not just a finger pointing, though, it is a whole fist raised triumphantly in the air.
Anyway, thank you for the reply!
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Re: LSD: The Virtual Soundboard, God, and Infinity (pics!!) [Re: Apollyphelion]
#7819114 - 01/01/08 06:09 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Are there any psychedelic muscians that could add to this, describe something new I can look for or what not?
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Re: LSD: The Virtual Soundboard, God, and Infinity (pics!!) [Re: Apollyphelion]
#7847416 - 01/08/08 11:08 AM (16 years, 24 days ago) |
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Apollyphelion said:
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In this context, meaning is defined as causality. I get more meaning sometimes while playing or listening to music on LSD simply because there seems to be many refrence points in which to each event, as opposed to the "mudane progression" of sobriety. Each note I play has a feeling, colour, shape, and quality to it! Wowee!!! What DOES that mean? I don't really know, but it is cool enough to make me want to trip. I mean, I have to smoke A LOT of weed, or try really hard to get even BASIC effects similar. Even if LSD is a meaningless crosswiring and arrangement of delayed signals, it allows me to approach something differently with preferable results, and THAT means a lot. LSD simply gives you more causes for music. Essentially, it gives you "keys" to open more doors. The "key" being the cause of whatever form you turn into as you jump from the starting point. They key of a song, the source of the form, the birth of a child--That is one thing I try to bring back from LSD or Shroom trips: Sources in which I can use as the basis for expression. I think that is pretty cool and means a lot.
Music is absolutley wonderful. The key word there being Wonderful. I love to express wonder, and wonder and music is like the best thing since sliced WonderBread. I wonder what he is gonna play next? I wonder what a T-Rex sounds like? Good music always leaves me in a state of wonder, sober or not. It is very much like a high, allowing you to access desirable conciousness realms. A good song will confine you in its sense of freedom. It won't let go from you and you are trapped. I am trapped in the Mario Theme for eternity. I love that song so much, and it makes me happy. Never felt so free in a prison of sound. A prison with rules, and maths. Good music practically defies itself: How can something that can be broken down into math bring out qualia (the senses, or sense of feeling) in yourself, which by current science standards there is no way to even define HOW to define the qualia. In other words, your experience isn't measurable. Something that is measurable creates something that isn't. Music always leaves me wondering.
P.S: I think the fibonacci sequence was worth mentioning, just because of how it occurs in nature, exists and music, and that meaning your brain must contain the equations to comprehend it. That is another topic though.
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Man, that was a good read. I'm glad to see there is someone else who has tripped and picked up their guitar and been like -
O_O
Holy shit.. this is amazing!!
It's like picking it up for the first time.
While my guitar is just sitting there, sometimes I think about the fact that those strings are always vibrating. Even when I'm not crafting and shaping my own little nook in space & time with those little metal strings. Everything around us is constantly vibrating, no matter how serene our surrounding may seem... and what is sound, and music, but orchestrated vibration?
I personally like to think that the entire universe, all physical and non-physical dimensions, are all of a certain frequency that intricately intertwine and overlap each other. As humans, we can only sense so many of these dimensions, but sometimes I believe we get a glimpse of the next step in our spiritual evolution (death).
Existence itself, is a collection of limitless vibrations, orchestrated by nature herself to maintain a perfect and consistent balance between dimensions. And perhaps, if one were able to experience these as a whole, it would be the most unimaginably beautiful symphony comprised of an indescribable mixture of light (color) and sound. Perhaps.. this physical life IS that experience.
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Edited by manyc (01/08/08 11:11 AM)
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Re: LSD: The Virtual Soundboard, God, and Infinity (pics!!) [Re: manyc]
#7847420 - 01/08/08 11:11 AM (16 years, 24 days ago) |
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And your reply was a good read!
Your words ring true in the song of life I am playing.
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Re: LSD: The Virtual Soundboard, God, and Infinity (pics!!) [Re: Apollyphelion]
#7847463 - 01/08/08 11:20 AM (16 years, 24 days ago) |
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I find it highly interesting how are brains are wired to percieve music.
Like I said, when I try to break beyond the lowest/highest tone/frequency, using the part of my brain(mind?) that must be stimulated by the the relationships soundwaves have together and their rhythmical interaction, my mind/thought empties and as it is nothing.
Is this a comprehensible confrontation of the limits of our organics/brain chemistry?
What is also weird, is I find the high/low tone "singularity points" comforting.
Maybe redgreenvines could organize this into organics?:-)
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Re: LSD: The Virtual Soundboard, God, and Infinity (pics!!) [Re: Apollyphelion]
#7847480 - 01/08/08 11:26 AM (16 years, 24 days ago) |
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The last time i did acid it was haywire as hell, cause my buddy went crazy and got arrested while running around naked screaming at people who where walking their dogs...... i made sure to not get caught up in the bullshit and just enjoy my trip...
when i got home, i was feeling so full of acid and this kind of weird psychedelic power to express that i decided to play my violin, and it was probably the best i have ever played even though i have kinda neglected playing the past 2 or 3 years.... I was tought by this little old german dude that sold me one of his 200 year old violins, so i am routed in classical..
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Re: LSD: The Virtual Soundboard, God, and Infinity (pics!!) [Re: es_f1]
#7847488 - 01/08/08 11:29 AM (16 years, 24 days ago) |
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Oh man, violin on LSD is amazing, and the same can be said for sobriety:-)
I'm a hick man and I'll dig me a fiddle anytime, too. I know what you mean about the best you ever played. Many times I stop playing and laugh because inside, I say to my self: "Self, WHere'd THAT come from?" with a hint of scooby-doo voice.
I hate scooby-doo.
Theme song is annoying.
I love music
Gonna play some soon
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Re: LSD: The Virtual Soundboard, God, and Infinity (pics!!) [Re: Apollyphelion]
#7848188 - 01/08/08 02:16 PM (16 years, 24 days ago) |
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Apollyphelion said: I think there is a very high magnitude of correlation between the sounds you listen to, and the visuals created by LSD; Not to say the visuals are strictly sound related. Obvious honorable mentions go to fact you are on a psychedelic, colours and patterns of things all contribute to the unique landscape of LSD. However, after doing what I feel to be the start of serious research when associating LSD with the Music Experience, there is a BASICALLY defineable relationship between LSD and music. A virtual mixing board that has many functions and applications when LISTENING to and playing music. To simultaneously hear and see, and sometimes feel (in a more intense way) just how a song is constructed opens up new avenues for the composer and the listener. Plus, it is a lot of fun.
Music is mathmatical. It is related to the Fibonacci sequence, although in- directly when put in the context of certain musical scales. All in all, music is like an irrational number do to the fact in can ascend in either order, up or down. (A-G, or G-A, until our organic brain can no longer hear the tones. 1.68, or -1.68) Simply put we can comprehend the ratio itself, and the relation from one number to the next, but not the whole. In this effect, the Fibonacci Sequence can at least be used as a metaphor in how it relates to what Key you are playing in.
In music, a song is in a Key; The starting point, or the source of the form of the song. What Key do you prefer to play in? Which section of the percieved spiral do you prefer to start in, and ride your scale up and down? Most people who sing and play guitar only really play in the keys their voice fits in with well, knowing their limits and capabilities, and fortunatley for those not constrained by their voice or those into instrumentals, you can travel ANYWHERE in the infinitum of music. Music is very forgiving when dealing with decision making: It is not so much, "Apolly, I can't do this because of my limitations", it is "how am I going to limit myself?" An overworked song is a good example of a musician who was overwhelmed by the limitless capabilities. Some discipline is important to create good music, I think--the very fact you have to sit down and learn your instrument is a good indication of this, although some like to take their technical skill further. I'm a Dylan-Guthrie songwrite type of musician; I still had to learn to play, though.
So we have the basis that a song is in a key derived from a starting point in a realm of endless oppurtunities. After we decide what key we are playing in, we can go foward and play the song! From this starting point, the musician will lay down MANY, MANY points, or "points of relativity" In other words, the artist is simultaneosuly displaying the notes themselves and the space between; notes that do not have space between each other is simply a hum...a singularity point. Relativity is lost. The notes have relation to each other, they are different: This allows for association and the ability to comprhend waves. And boy oh boy do these waves make shapes! When combining the POINTS and spaces between a song, while connecting the many layers of these points (notes), you should be able to "see" shapes in your head. Geometries that manifest while on LSD or not.

Notice in the picture that I made all the connections between the notes in this imaginary, crappy song. That is why I think you keep listening to the same song over and over, because since you can look at music as shapes, and shapes compose our physical enviorment, a good sing can be looked at as a place you visit until you found every secret cove or hideaway. Some songs almost seem too big though...and allow for repeated visits. I might make different connections next time, or the same; regardless, that song is not finished being listened to.
The only way this works of course is because of memory; if your memory did not expand or extend past the duration of a single note, it'd probably not allow for a friendly listening experience. Most of us, I feel has a song memory long enough for the music to take us places. Long enough, so that by minute two of a good song, you will be asking yourself "how did I get HERE?" and then you replay the song to remind yourself how you got there. It is a long journey from home sometimes (A long journey from the key of a song) Personally, a weird quality of music I can't even think I can explain is how you really don't dwell TOO MUCH on what was played before; Music is very good a TELLING you to "be here, now" with just enough mind on the past and future to make the now enjoyable. Again, using the aspect of relativity to define the quality of now.
My virutal sound board is a multi-colored layer of effects that seem to have a direct of correlation or a very real cross-wiring that allows me to view song in three angles simultaneously: Distorted time, colors, shapes. I feel this benefits a musician, because since colours can always be broken down numerically to a point, and shapes as well, you can theoretically "play anything" that contains colors or shapes. Seeing how colour is quantumly subjective due to the particle/wave duality nature of light, it'd be no surprise each of us would probably have a different song describing the colour pink or a trapezoid. Pink Trapezoid? That's a cool band name, to me.

Memory is the most important factor, I feel in getting the most out of your audiovisuals. Essentially, our brain is programmed with this ultra-complex sound board; that is why you can "imagine" the next highest note in the scale. Your ears have a limit, and I think your brain does, too. The brain starts where the ears and eyes end. Me, personally, I can only think of a sound high pitched up to a point-where I reach a singularity point and my mind is void. Thoughtless and a formless drone that resonates after I break through the highest possible key I can reach.
In this context, meaning is defined as causality. I get more meaning sometimes while playing or listening to music on LSD simply because there seems to be many refrence points in which to each event, as opposed to the "mudane progression" of sobriety. Each note I play has a feeling, colour, shape, and quality to it! Wowee!!! What DOES that mean? I don't really know, but it is cool enough to make me want to trip. I mean, I have to smoke A LOT of weed, or try really hard to get even BASIC effects similar. Even if LSD is a meaningless crosswiring and arrangement of delayed signals, it allows me to approach something differently with preferable results, and THAT means a lot. LSD simply gives you more causes for music. Essentially, it gives you "keys" to open more doors. The "key" being the cause of whatever form you turn into as you jump from the starting point. They key of a song, the source of the form, the birth of a child--That is one thing I try to bring back from LSD or Shroom trips: Sources in which I can use as the basis for expression. I think that is pretty cool and means a lot.
Music is absolutley wonderful. The key word there being Wonderful. I love to express wonder, and wonder and music is like the best thing since sliced WonderBread. I wonder what he is gonna play next? I wonder what a T-Rex sounds like? Good music always leaves me in a state of wonder, sober or not. It is very much like a high, allowing you to access desirable conciousness realms. A good song will confine you in its sense of freedom. It won't let go from you and you are trapped. I am trapped in the Mario Theme for eternity. I love that song so much, and it makes me happy. Never felt so free in a prison of sound. A prison with rules, and maths. Good music practically defies itself: How can something that can be broken down into math bring out qualia (the senses, or sense of feeling) in yourself, which by current science standards there is no way to even define HOW to define the qualia. In other words, your experience isn't measurable. Something that is measurable creates something that isn't. Music always leaves me wondering.
P.S: I think the fibonacci sequence was worth mentioning, just because of how it occurs in nature, exists and music, and that meaning your brain must contain the equations to comprehend it. That is another topic though.
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Awesome post!
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Re: LSD: The Virtual Soundboard, God, and Infinity (pics!!) [Re: Apollyphelion]
#7849402 - 01/08/08 05:53 PM (16 years, 24 days ago) |
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Oh, man. You're getting 5 shroomies for this, no doubt! :edit: wait, nevermind. you don't get 5 shroomies. i've already given you 5 of those. you just get a crappy ol' edit.
Amazing post, my friend.
I've never looked for the audiovisuals whilst playing music on LSD, but I'll be sure to keep an eye out.
But there are a few experiences ingrained within my mind that involve playing music and LSD.
The first, is the precious gift I was given of first being introduced to the concepts of a guitar while tripping with my brother. The entire experience blew my mind wide open. Even coming from a very musical life prior to taking LSD, learning and playing around with the guitar that day was the single greatest thing that has ever happened. I remember the colors coming off of the vibrating strings as I looked down, playing them.. feeling them.. breathing them.
Another very notable and recent experience involves the highest dose (and most pure and fucking bad ass!) of LSD i've taken to date, a friend who plays trumpet, and a friend who plays percussion. I bought a 5 strip of Alex Grey - Hofmann blotter. I gave the percussionist, who has had previous LSD experiences with me, two hits. I gave the trumpeter(?), who has eaten shrooms a few times, one hit (they were laid at around 180ug's). I took two hits.
For the peak of the trip, I could not play guitar at all. I was too high to even get high (smoke sinsemilla). But as soon as I was able to play guitar, and even before actually (tried a few times), I had it in my hands pouring out my being into the vibrations. I was smart enough to record a jam my friends and I played that night. They'd never heard the song before, and we were all realllllly high, but everything was flowing SO fluidly and beautifully.. sure, some of the notes are off, but oh, how mind blowing those were. I was no longer in my body; I was completely lost in the song. The falling and rising of the progressing vibrations we were lucky enough to be putting out captured my heart. I laughed and laughed as we played. So much shakti!
The whole time we were playing, everything in my vision was sort of undergoing a "vortex" type effect. I could literally see the sound waves floating through the air. And I had the feeling that we were sitting in a huge wind tunnel. It was a very powerful experience.
This threat is awesome. Thank you.
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Re: LSD: The Virtual Soundboard, God, and Infinity (pics!!) [Re: dirtworshipper]
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dirtworshipper said:
But there are a few experiences ingrained within my mind that involve playing music and LSD.
The first, is the precious gift I was given of first being introduced to the concepts of a guitar while tripping with my brother. The entire experience blew my mind wide open. Even coming from a very musical life prior to taking LSD, learning and playing around with the guitar that day was the single greatest thing that has ever happened. I remember the colors coming off of the vibrating strings as I looked down, playing them.. feeling them.. breathing them.
And thank you back! For this is a perfect example of acknowledging the different effects due to a number of reasons (genetics, enviornment, and what not and who cares:-)
I sure don't have colours bleeding out my fingers; that is fucking epic. Possibly that is your "most efficient soundboard dose? or a damn "easily workable one"
I have to admit, it is a vast soundboard and it took a while to get to know the structures I have built myself, and I am convinced the correlation is there, at least, to be a psychosomatic psychonaut;-)
For me it it about 1.5 2 hits of damn good acid.
How much Acid did you take for the first time?
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Re: LSD: The Virtual Soundboard, God, and Infinity (pics!!) [Re: Apollyphelion]
#7849526 - 01/08/08 06:11 PM (16 years, 24 days ago) |
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I took 1.5 hits too.
 That's a good dose. I don't mind higher doses, but sometimes too much makes it impossible to play guitar during the peak. And that's perfect too.
Lately, I've been hearing certain Indian ragas (their scale system, sort of) out of nowhere. And I wonder if it's just a matter of tuning into the music that is always there? It is always there, right? It makes sense to me. 
:edit: I recently bought myself a present. A set of tabla. And also, a dotara (a two stringed drone instrument, used for chanting and singing bhajans). I can't wait to trip and play around with these. I might have to dedicate a trip to each.
And then there is the banjo and fiddle, which have yet to receive being played by my while I'm tripping.
I always feel like I understand the theory and concepts behind everything that I play more under certain influences, and I know you know what I mean! I know the exact feeling you describe when you stopped playing and asked "where is that coming from?".
I was lucky enough to play my drumset while I was tripping on another large dose, around 3 hits of good LSD. I've been playing percussion for a little over 8 years, and I couldn't believe how much I got into the rhythm. The triplets in between my breaths.. in between the high-hat and snare.. all while the bass drum is keeping my heart beat steady. Ahhhhh.
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Re: LSD: The Virtual Soundboard, God, and Infinity (pics!!) [Re: dirtworshipper]
#7849551 - 01/08/08 06:17 PM (16 years, 24 days ago) |
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Totally. I think of music in an abstract way like you would compare to diggin' up a fossil...some know how to use their tools better, there are many tools of choice, but regardless if the fossil is in pristine shape, a rugged lump, retarded, or genious, it still came out of a human as a waveform expression and that is what makes it special to me, regardless.
I don't need to breathe, I just need to sing:-)
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Re: LSD: The Virtual Soundboard, God, and Infinity (pics!!) [Re: dirtworshipper]
#7849571 - 01/08/08 06:21 PM (16 years, 24 days ago) |
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Damn, it'd be awesome to bagpipe with you on drumming. I love love love rhythm.
Drugs+Musicians=near infinite conversation.
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Re: LSD: The Virtual Soundboard, God, and Infinity (pics!!) [Re: Apollyphelion]
#7849603 - 01/08/08 06:29 PM (16 years, 24 days ago) |
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Oh, fuck! The bagpipes! That is awesome. There is something about the drone that just... brings you to that center. How do the bagpipes work? Aren't there a few pipes that are just drones? And one that you actually finger the notes on? I couldn't think of how else to word that... BUT! That would be bad ass. I'd love to play some rhythm along with ya.
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Drugs+Musicians=near infinite conversation.
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:edit: I absolutely love this. Hindugrass - Drive I've always thought the banjo had a "sitar" feel, with the metal strings. I began learning the Raag Behag (i think i spelled it correctly) on the banjo not too long before I hear this song. It blew my mind, needless to say.
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Re: LSD: The Virtual Soundboard, God, and Infinity (pics!!) [Re: dirtworshipper]
#7849622 - 01/08/08 06:34 PM (16 years, 24 days ago) |
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I think of the pipes as a mini-model of a universe...the drone is the unrelenting calmness from whichforth everything emanates.
Yup, the bagpipes work exactly like that, with an oboe like reed and sax type reed from the Chanter (melody pipe) and drone respectively.
I play a mix of european music (french, italian, german amd a dash of middle eastern) on medieval german folk-pipes (Dudelsack)
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Re: LSD: The Virtual Soundboard, God, and Infinity (pics!!) [Re: Apollyphelion]
#7849655 - 01/08/08 06:41 PM (16 years, 24 days ago) |
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Apollyphelion said: I think of the pipes as a mini-model of a universe...the drone is the unrelenting calmness from whichforth everything emanates.
Right on!

Lately, I've been gravitating towards Indian influenced music. I play in a band that plays a mixture of blues/psychedelic rock/bluegrass/folk type stuff.
Make a joyful noise!
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Re: LSD: The Virtual Soundboard, God, and Infinity (pics!!) [Re: dirtworshipper]
#7853343 - 01/09/08 12:22 PM (16 years, 23 days ago) |
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My friend is getting a 2 ft. chinese bamboo flute tomorrow. When he told me he was getting one, it immediately gave me this idea... of building -or rather collecting- a tribal drumset. With tabla, congas, bongos, djembe, and a couple of crazy-sounding cymbals to accent the beat. And.. maybe one day when I have the money, I'll add a gong to that equation for earth-shattering explosions of metallic chaos when the song calls for it.
I just love the idea.. of sitting outside, free of the anchors that electric instruments hold, being in the moment. Beatin' on my drums while he's playing a tribal native type melody... hitching a ride on a rhythm sent to us from the past.
But I'd also want to be playing an acoustic guitar...
But I only have so many hands... and sometimes, that really depresses me. I love guitar, but god damnit. I want to play everything!!!
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Re: LSD: The Virtual Soundboard, God, and Infinity (pics!!) [Re: manyc]
#7854989 - 01/09/08 05:38 PM (16 years, 23 days ago) |
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I absolutely love "ethnic drumming" so to speak.
CRAZY fucking Crazy off rhythms, back beats...so complex; so basic and always new sounding. Drums are actually the main instrument in traditional pipes and drums, as per ancient style. (Not solo-piping)
Love rhythm;Love melody
As per a relation to Shamans and using drumming and rhythmic breathing to induce mystical experiences, and altered states, I think it is cool to almost think of as The Dead and Phish, and the larger scene associated with like mindsets as a sort of mass Shamanic Ritual to compensate for the loss of the tribal community.
Seems to me a lot of the same shit would go on in both contexts; Best not to romanticize too much, though.
Music is probably the most popular thing in the world after the shit you need to live?
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