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LayYouIn
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If there is a God that can do anything/everything...
#7813954 - 12/30/07 02:52 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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...can this God make a rock so big that he/she can not lift it himself/herself?...meaning that this God can no longer do anything/everything.
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Re: If there is a God that can do anything/everything... [Re: LayYouIn]
#7813966 - 12/30/07 02:56 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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And so falls apart the traditional Aristotelian view of God. Fortunately, it has no relevance to the Process view of God, which in many ways seems to correspond more to the Bible.
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Re: If there is a God that can do anything/everything... [Re: LayYouIn]
#7813969 - 12/30/07 02:56 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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-------------------- "Don't believe everything you think". -Anom. " All that lives was born to die"-Anom. With much wisdom comes much sorrow, The more knowledge, the more grief. Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
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LayYouIn
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Re: If there is a God that can do anything/everything... [Re: Icelander]
#7813972 - 12/30/07 02:56 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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sorry.
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Icelander
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Re: If there is a God that can do anything/everything... [Re: LayYouIn]
#7813977 - 12/30/07 02:59 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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-------------------- "Don't believe everything you think". -Anom. " All that lives was born to die"-Anom. With much wisdom comes much sorrow, The more knowledge, the more grief. Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
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LayYouIn
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Re: If there is a God that can do anything/everything... [Re: LayYouIn]
#7813980 - 12/30/07 03:00 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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i cant stop thinking about this stuff.
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Re: If there is a God that can do anything/everything... [Re: LayYouIn]
#7813991 - 12/30/07 03:04 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Its just a paper tiger. Its really impossible to pin god down, as I have said in other threads (and somehow have been disagreed with, which normally doesn't last long).
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Icelander
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Re: If there is a God that can do anything/everything... [Re: xFrockx]
#7814018 - 12/30/07 03:15 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Debating god is a waste of time IMO. But it fills up space here and if it isn't god it will be greeies from outerspace.
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Atheist
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Re: If there is a God that can do anything/everything... [Re: LayYouIn]
#7814197 - 12/30/07 04:09 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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the first religions had many gods, correct? there are probably hundreds (maybe more) polytheistic religions
well one day, they decided to make a NEW god, an all powerful, all knowing god (yes, much like SANTA) what does the Christian god and the gods of hinduism have in common?
they dont exist!
thats why im an atheist NOT agnostic
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Re: If there is a God that can do anything/everything... [Re: Atheist]
#7814404 - 12/30/07 04:55 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Way to go. Now I got a "Yes god can, no god can't" thought loop.
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Re: If there is a God that can do anything/everything... [Re: Visionary Tools]
#7814511 - 12/30/07 05:20 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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There's not A God.
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xFrockx



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Re: If there is a God that can do anything/everything... [Re: Atheist]
#7814828 - 12/30/07 07:01 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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I used to be an atheist before I realized that atheisim was just as bad as any other religion. You can never say a god doesn't exist without the use of faith. I don't believe in god any more than I did when I was an atheist, but I call myself agnostic because I realize the idiocy of doing otherwise.
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Re: If there is a God that can do anything/everything... [Re: xFrockx]
#7814839 - 12/30/07 07:07 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Atheism is a defense response to the idea of god, therefore it creates lots of paranoid and anxious feelings. It is no better than religion because both of these attitudes are extremes.
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Re: If there is a God that can do anything/everything... [Re: xFrockx]
#7814840 - 12/30/07 07:07 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Quote:
xFrockx said: I used to be an atheist before I realized that atheisim was just as bad as any other religion. You can never say a god doesn't exist without the use of faith. I don't believe in god any more than I did when I was an atheist, but I call myself agnostic because I realize the idiocy of doing otherwise.
so aren't you technically an atheist?
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Atheist
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Re: If there is a God that can do anything/everything... [Re: MushroomTrip]
#7814844 - 12/30/07 07:09 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Quote:
MushroomTrip said: Atheism is a defense response to the idea of god, therefore it creates lots of paranoid and anxious feelings. It is no better than religion because both of these attitudes are extremes.
creates lots of paranoid and anxious feelings? i'm sorry but thats what happened to me when i believed in god
if i believed: OMG god is watching me constantly, i have to make sure i dont sin, he is watching me poop and jack off am i going to go to heaven? hell? im so scared of getting judged
being an atheist means i dont have to worry about any of that nonsense
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Re: If there is a God that can do anything/everything... [Re: Atheist]
#7814854 - 12/30/07 07:11 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Certainly there could be a god that doesnt watch you or care about you.
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LayYouIn
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Re: If there is a God that can do anything/everything... [Re: xFrockx]
#7814905 - 12/30/07 07:21 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Quote:
xFrockx said: I used to be an atheist before I realized that atheisim was just as bad as any other religion. You can never say a god doesn't exist without the use of faith. I don't believe in god any more than I did when I was an atheist, but I call myself agnostic because I realize the idiocy of doing otherwise.
same here. i dont see how someone could say "there is no god, it's a fact" or "there is a god, it's a fact", it's like saying "when i flip this penny, it WILL land on heads", to my knowledge there's no way of knowing for sure.
but however, i have noticed things many many many times throughout my life that do have me leaning more towards theism. could be coincidence, maybe not. i sure hope there's a god.
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Re: If there is a God that can do anything/everything... [Re: Atheist]
#7814938 - 12/30/07 07:29 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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No, not even technically. While I don't believe in god personally, I realize I cannot rule it out, and so I remain open to it.
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Atheist
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Re: If there is a God that can do anything/everything... [Re: LayYouIn]
#7814960 - 12/30/07 07:33 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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i dont see how someone could say "there is no god, it's a fact" or "there is a god, it's a fact"
me neither
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xFrockx



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Re: If there is a God that can do anything/everything... [Re: Atheist]
#7815017 - 12/30/07 07:49 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Then maybe you're agnostic and you didn't even know it! :p
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