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OfflineMushroomTrip
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Re: Its more important to be nice than to be right [Re: daytripper23]
    #7823357 - 01/02/08 11:32 AM (16 years, 30 days ago)

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Well you dont try to make shitty art do you? when you make art you try to make art of quality.




Depends on what you're following.
One can make an art of everything, from breathing to painting to simply being.
"Quality" in art is defined by some cultural standards. One might find a quality painting by what the "trend" is, by what most people value, by what critiques say is valuable.
Personally I don't consider THAT Art, this is a frivolous need to be in the center of attention and appreciation.
Art is much deeper that that, it transcends all those limited and crappy standards and it comes from the love of expressing oneself.
Perhaps YOU try to make art of quality. :shrug:

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Nice!




Expand please :hehehe:


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All this time I've loved you
And never known your face
All this time I've missed you
And searched this human race
Here is true peace
Here my heart knows calm
Safe in your soul
Bathed in your sighs

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Re: Its more important to be nice than to be right [Re: MushroomTrip]
    #7823445 - 01/02/08 11:49 AM (16 years, 30 days ago)

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Depends on what you're following.
One can make an art of everything, from breathing to painting to simply being.
"Quality" in art is defined by some cultural standards. One might find a quality painting by what the "trend" is, by what most people value, by what critiques say is valuable.
Personally I don't consider THAT Art, this is a frivolous need to be in the center of attention and appreciation.
Art is much deeper that that, it transcends all those limited and crappy standards and it comes from the love of expressing oneself.
Perhaps YOU try to make art of quality. :shrug:




Expanding:

Nice!


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Re: Its more important to be nice than to be right [Re: daytripper23]
    #7823576 - 01/02/08 12:26 PM (16 years, 30 days ago)

Before you further explain to me the dynamics of the art that you seem to be so well versed in, I wonder do you know how great this concept is I just showed you?

I could again debate you point by point, but try listening to this concept with an open mind. Just pretend for a moment that I know what I am talking about.

I use the word quality for very specific reasons! It applies to the two basic and fundamental properties of art. This is fine art, the art of breathing, the art of life etc... it is

A. Substantial quality.
B. Aesthetic quality.

If you really study this concept, youll understand how ethics and aesthetics can actually be the same thing, just like "nice" and "right".

Im not going to describe it, because I have tried over and over to do this, and i am becoming frustrated. But just ask yourself this:

Is it a coincidence that so many great artists petition for peace? Is it a coincidence that the Buddha spoke both truthfully and compassionately?

Thats it for me. Goodbye.


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Re: Its more important to be nice than to be right [Re: daytripper23]
    #7823629 - 01/02/08 12:43 PM (16 years, 30 days ago)

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If you really study this concept, youll understand how ethics and aesthetics can actually be the same thing, just like "nice" and "right".




No they can't. All these terms are subjective and each time when someone tries to define and and universally apply them, a new form of authority is born.
Do we really want that?
I personally do not. :grin:
Ethics and "right" touch a very sensible ground: they are related to human insecurities and fears, the main enemies of reason and understanding. It's pretty easy to see how these will soon stand against the most basic concept of progress.

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Im not going to describe it, because I have tried over and over to do this, and i am becoming frustrated. But just ask yourself this:

Is it a coincidence that so many great artists petition for peace? Is it a coincidence that the Buddha spoke both truthfully and compassionately?




Of course there's no coincidence.
Artists do it mainly for marketing, because that's the trend.
Also because they reached a social status where they don't face poverty anymore.
It's so much easier to plead for world peace when you don't lack any comfort. :smirk:
And can we please, get pass the Buddha example? I grew tired of it already. :boring:


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All this time I've loved you
And never known your face
All this time I've missed you
And searched this human race
Here is true peace
Here my heart knows calm
Safe in your soul
Bathed in your sighs

:bunnyhug: :yinyang2:


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Re: Its more important to be nice than to be right [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #7824217 - 01/02/08 03:46 PM (16 years, 30 days ago)

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OrgoneConclusion said:
Would you like a job as my official translator?




yes...why not...how much do i get paid?

but really, isn't that what you are saying?

I'm not implying that, as you put it, the "brutal disillusioning truth" is wrong or that this sort of debating style should not be used. Quite the contrary...

however, we've had this conversation before and I still think that the truth does not always have to come in the form of abrasiveness.


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Annnnnnd I had a light saber and my friend was there and I said "you look like an indian" and he said "you look like satan" and he found a stick and a rock and he named the rock ooga booga and he named the stick Stick and we both thought that was pretty funny. We got eaten alive by mosquitos but didn't notice til the next day. I stepped on some glass while wading in the swamp and cut my foot open, didn't bother me til the next day either....yeah it was a good time, ended the night by buying some liquor for minors and drinking nips and going to he diner and eating chicken fingers, and then I went home and went to bed.


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Re: Its more important to be nice than to be right [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #7824234 - 01/02/08 03:52 PM (16 years, 30 days ago)

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OrgoneConclusion said:
It's more important to be nice than to be right.




How about being true to ourselves and following our highest joy?


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Re: Its more important to be nice than to be right [Re: AlteredAgain]
    #7824324 - 01/02/08 04:24 PM (16 years, 30 days ago)

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AlteredAgain said:
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OrgoneConclusion said:
It's more important to be nice than to be right.




How about being true to ourselves and following our highest joy?




what if someone's highest joy is being mean or even in extreme cases murder?


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Annnnnnd I had a light saber and my friend was there and I said "you look like an indian" and he said "you look like satan" and he found a stick and a rock and he named the rock ooga booga and he named the stick Stick and we both thought that was pretty funny. We got eaten alive by mosquitos but didn't notice til the next day. I stepped on some glass while wading in the swamp and cut my foot open, didn't bother me til the next day either....yeah it was a good time, ended the night by buying some liquor for minors and drinking nips and going to he diner and eating chicken fingers, and then I went home and went to bed.


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Re: Its more important to be nice than to be right [Re: kaiowas]
    #7824518 - 01/02/08 05:38 PM (16 years, 30 days ago)

Exactly. Hitler took great joy and pride in his Final Solution and felt it was his calling.

The 9/11 suicide bombers held similar notions as does President Bush no matter how many Iraqi citizens die for his vision.


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Re: Its more important to be nice than to be right [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #7824873 - 01/02/08 06:56 PM (16 years, 30 days ago)

Not to mention you and me.:thumbup::monkeydance:


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
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Re: Its more important to be nice than to be right [Re: AlteredAgain]
    #7826326 - 01/03/08 02:30 AM (16 years, 30 days ago)

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How about being true to ourselves and following our highest joy?




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Re: Its more important to be nice than to be right [Re: daytripper23]
    #7826531 - 01/03/08 06:56 AM (16 years, 29 days ago)

But if a person's way of clarifying what they think is "right" and "true" is so not nice that they turn away the person they are trying to teach, aren't they defeating their own purpose?

None of the teachers that have made a difference in my life or thoughts did so by calling me an idiot.


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Re: Its more important to be nice than to be right [Re: mushbaby]
    #7826740 - 01/03/08 09:21 AM (16 years, 29 days ago)

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None of the teachers that have made a difference in my life or thoughts did so by calling me an idiot.





None of the teachers that have made a difference in my life or thoughts did so by wearing a skimpy red bikini and blowing me kisses.

Damn! :mad2:


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Re: Its more important to be nice than to be right [Re: kaiowas]
    #7826838 - 01/03/08 09:49 AM (16 years, 29 days ago)

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kaiowas said:
Quote:

AlteredAgain said:
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OrgoneConclusion said:
It's more important to be nice than to be right.




How about being true to ourselves and following our highest joy?




what if someone's highest joy is being mean or even in extreme cases murder?




that is not necessarily my business. every one is in charge of his or her own evolution.

if somebody chooses to hinder another's joy by means of violence then it is to be resolved by the community if not first by the individual involved IMO.

another person's choices are no excuse to prevent my own happiness.


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Re: Its more important to be nice than to be right [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #7826849 - 01/03/08 09:52 AM (16 years, 29 days ago)

You might have paid more attention to them, but might not have heard a word they said so it's probably a good thing they didn't.

Are you saying you want me to "teach you something"?  :naughty:

Where'd your interpretor go?


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Re: Its more important to be nice than to be right [Re: mushbaby]
    #7826944 - 01/03/08 10:24 AM (16 years, 29 days ago)

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Are you saying you want me to "teach you something"?





If a believer and a skeptic get together it is like matter and anti-matter colliding in a world-destroying explosion. Are you ready to take on such a responsibility?

Ah hell, screw the world! Let's go for it. :yesnod:


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Re: Its more important to be nice than to be right [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #7827749 - 01/03/08 02:37 PM (16 years, 29 days ago)

Honey after I got thru with you , you'd be so twitterpatted you'd agree to everything I said.

Then what would P&S do without you? All the skeptics would have a contract out on me. If of course we all lived thru the explosion.

But I like living on the edge.


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Re: Its more important to be nice than to be right [Re: mushbaby]
    #7827980 - 01/03/08 03:30 PM (16 years, 29 days ago)

All the skeptics would be lining up for the video. No woman alive has survived Shmoopyization unchanged. :nono:


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Re: Its more important to be nice than to be right [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #7828262 - 01/03/08 04:32 PM (16 years, 29 days ago)



:smirk:


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Re: Its more important to be nice than to be right [Re: Rose]
    #7828285 - 01/03/08 04:40 PM (16 years, 29 days ago)

What does she have in her hand, a tampon? :what:


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Re: Its more important to be nice than to be right [Re: AlteredAgain]
    #7828340 - 01/03/08 04:56 PM (16 years, 29 days ago)

Good question... I didn't notice that.

Assuming it is NOT a tampon (just something which looks like one) I think she's the woman for Org.


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