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OfflineDhaze
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First DMT extraction. Pics and Q's inside...
    #7811153 - 12/29/07 05:19 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

A friend just did his first pull using the Lazy Man's tek. The only problem he had was separating the solvent from the mixture, since he used a big jar that turned out to be horrible for pouring. So, he removed what solvent he could and went ahead with the partial evap and CFC.





His questions are:

1) How does it look? After one CFC and several hours out drying, the crytals look white and he doesn't smell any naptha.

2) How much product is this? His scale only measures down to tenths and this didn't even measure up to 0.1? The product doesn't look dense at all, but he thought it looked like more than that.

Again, this was only the first pull from 250g of mhrb. He added 500ml more naptha to the mix and let it sit over night. He's planning on getting some better equipment to help with the second pull, so hopefully he'll have an easier time getting the solvent out.

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Re: First DMT extraction. Pics and Q's inside... [Re: Dhaze]
    #7811170 - 12/29/07 05:28 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Very nice, man. Good work :thumbup:

It couldn't look more perfect. If you want to know how much it  is there's obviously only one thing you can do, get a more accurate scale.

But again, nice work.

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Re: First DMT extraction. Pics and Q's inside... [Re: Dhaze]
    #7811189 - 12/29/07 05:34 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

1. It looks pretty good, the only way to know for sure is to smoke some and find out.

Weighing DMT is for the birds, just take a very small amount and smoke it. Then increase the dose size until you reach the desired results.

2. Take something like a card, put it on the scale, and zero it out. Then take the card off the scale, load your spice onto the card, and place it back on the scale. I have found that scales of this type have a hard time reading powders if added slowly.

Hope this helps.

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Re: First DMT extraction. Pics and Q's inside... [Re: d4a2n0k]
    #7811199 - 12/29/07 05:36 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

It's true that many people don't weigh it out. You don't have to know weight really with DMT to use it you just take a little pinch and load it up, but I always like to know weight anyway.

Just don't do that with stuff like 2Cx, DOx, etc.

Edited by Ombient (12/29/07 05:40 PM)

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Re: First DMT extraction. Pics and Q's inside... [Re: Robo]
    #7811377 - 12/29/07 06:49 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Thanks for the replies. He put a cap on the scale, zero'd, then added the product, still showed up as 0.0? A was wondering about that, if the scale was sensitive enough to pick up on that small of an amount? He's probably gonna do a little test run tonight and just guesstimate on the dose.

Also, he picked up a couple turkey basters and another bowl, but is still having loads of trouble trying to separate the solvent from the mix. Any tips here would really help...

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Re: First DMT extraction. Pics and Q's inside... [Re: Dhaze]
    #7811426 - 12/29/07 07:03 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

If it says zero it just means the object is too light for it to read.

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Re: First DMT extraction. Pics and Q's inside... [Re: Robo]
    #7811441 - 12/29/07 07:06 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

how many grams of plant material did he use

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Re: First DMT extraction. Pics and Q's inside... [Re: milkman]
    #7811447 - 12/29/07 07:08 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

250g MHRB

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Re: First DMT extraction. Pics and Q's inside... [Re: Robo]
    #7811649 - 12/29/07 08:24 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

stuff looks good, I'd say thats about 3 strong doses (if that coin is a quarter that is), maybe 4
I would suggest using the freeze/precip method of extraction found here:

http://tribes.tribe.net/ethnobotany/thread/bddc25e3-aeca-418d-811b-a46bbbc5d603

you freeze the naptha to precipitate the dmt, then all you have to do is strain it through a coffe filter and let it dry out, gives stuff that looks like what you have also (which is good quality)

Edited by bloodbrother778 (12/29/07 08:35 PM)

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Re: First DMT extraction. Pics and Q's inside... [Re: bloodbrother778]
    #7811942 - 12/29/07 10:37 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I might try freeze precipitating one day, I've never done this way. Heard it gives you nice crystals,though.

I'd like to see how it compares to just straight evaporating and cleaning with an ammonia solution.

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Re: First DMT extraction. Pics and Q's inside... [Re: Robo]
    #7811974 - 12/29/07 10:52 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

freeze precip is wonderful
ammonia wash is terrible...


great job dhaze! they look perfect.


in my opinion, i wouldn't go by d4a2n0k advice on smoking a little and working up to a desired amount.
you have much too little of product to just guess around and settle on a good dose.

depending on how succeptible you are to dmt, you have a good 2 to 5ish doses, 5 a little high, 4 most likely.

for me, a good breakthrough dose is about the size of a pencil eraser.
as you can see the pipe in my pic below.. i put a screen in the bowl, covered with ash, and then i put on a thin layer to completely cover the ash, hope that gives you a good dosage idea.

oh and, whatever you're smoking out of, when you hit baseline again, try and take a few more hits by sucking the flame down your piece, you probably won't get another breakthrough but you'll definately have a few nice trips left.

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Re: First DMT extraction. Pics and Q's inside... [Re: Divinatory]
    #7811990 - 12/29/07 10:58 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Divinatory said:
freeze precip is wonderful
ammonia wash is terrible...




:thumbup:

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Re: First DMT extraction. Pics and Q's inside... [Re: Knoa6]
    #7811996 - 12/29/07 11:01 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I'll give it a shot

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Re: First DMT extraction. Pics and Q's inside... [Re: Robo]
    #7812131 - 12/29/07 11:43 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I would highly suggest using some sort of glass (crack/meth) pipe for smoking the DMT, one can be easily made out of a light bulb, smoking DMT out of a pipe on top of bud is unreliable because you need a lot of the vapor to build up before hitting it, and if the flame touches the crystals, the DMT will get destroyed and you won't trip. Another advantage to using a glass piece such as a light bulb is that after you're done the DMT residue will recrystalize and you can get another trip out of it if you smoke the 3 doses in that one pipe.

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Re: First DMT extraction. Pics and Q's inside... [Re: bloodbrother778]
    #7812202 - 12/30/07 12:05 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Go to the nearest gas station and look at the counter and find a "Oil Incense Burner" or a flower in a tube looking thing.. Those are the glass pipes you want..

Ill get a flick of mine,,

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Re: First DMT extraction. Pics and Q's inside... [Re: Dephect]
    #7812220 - 12/30/07 12:09 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)


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Re: First DMT extraction. Pics and Q's inside... [Re: Robo]
    #7812253 - 12/30/07 12:17 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Yeah! Except mine has a ball at the end and was sold as just a straight 99cent unlabled crack pipe so its thick.. I used to smoke tweak out of it but I kicked that cleaned it out and use it for DMT now..

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Re: First DMT extraction. Pics and Q's inside... [Re: Dephect]
    #7813619 - 12/30/07 01:18 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Yea, I don't weigh it when I smoke DMT. You can only inhale so much smoke before you trip hard, and you're not going to be able to exceed that limit, so unless you're trying to trip less hard, just take 1 or 2 smaller hits, rather than trying to go for 3 or 4 huge ones


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Re: First DMT extraction. Pics and Q's inside... [Re: YHWH]
    #7814378 - 12/30/07 04:50 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

what i do with mine is I weight like a gram out and then divide that into 20 approximately equal piles, each one of those being a strong dose, you should divide that little pile into 3, thats about how many strong doses that will be, remember to be patient when vaping, let a lot of vapor build up before you start hitting it as the first hit is the most important one

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Re: First DMT extraction. Pics and Q's inside... [Re: bloodbrother778]
    #7814626 - 12/30/07 05:49 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

would this work on phalaris grass as well


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Re: First DMT extraction. Pics and Q's inside... [Re: mescalinaz]
    #7815136 - 12/30/07 08:43 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Man I wish I could teach you how to hit it.. Make sure you dont burn the bowl either!

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Re: First DMT extraction. Pics and Q's inside... [Re: Dephect]
    #7816588 - 12/31/07 10:39 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Evapping like that...gives you very light and airy crystals. It is usually MUCH less then what it looks like once you melt it in the pipe.

with 250grams of bark, you should have gotten about 1-2 grams of spice AT LEAST.

Here is "about" what 60mg looks like...just to give you an idea. this is about a single dose. but uncleaned and not recrystallized.

This is on a dime



I would wait, and extract all your spice. and see what you have. Load up way more then you think you will need, and you'll be set, lol. Any extra will be left in the pipe for next time :wink:


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Re: First DMT extraction. Pics and Q's inside... [Re: enesi]
    #7817105 - 12/31/07 01:34 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

^ ditto

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Re: First DMT extraction. Pics and Q's inside... [Re: bloodbrother778]
    #7817141 - 12/31/07 01:45 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

sweet

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