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MushyTom
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Questionable Spore Syringe
#7810541 - 12/29/07 01:16 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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I am a first time grower so i did my research for about a months time prior to purchasing anything.
I ended up buying the Alacabenzi strain from Spores101 which came in Syringe form.
When i received the syringe the liquid was completely clear, i questioned it but went through with inoculation.
My setup does keep the atmosphere inside the growing chamber at nominal levels. I am using a Rye Grow bag from Mushbox as well.
It has been now over 4 weeks and nothing seems to have happened period. The rye looks to be decomposing at this point with no mycelium growth at all.
No Mold or odd growths in the Grow bag either so i know contamination is not an issue.
Anyone have any ideas of what maybe going on? Did Spores101 rip me with a blank syringe?
*** Non Shroomery Vendors/Sponsors links have been removed*** -Roadkill
Edited by Roadkill (12/29/07 02:13 PM)
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Re: Questionable Spore Syringe [Re: MushyTom]
#7810566 - 12/29/07 01:28 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Did you shake the needle? Pores are tiny, most of them are clear, if you shake enough and hold under a light you might see a couple black specs.
Spore101 seem to have a bad rap.
Did you freeze the needle, where they old?
Sorry to hear it, I use little shop of spores - they rock!
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Re: Questionable Spore Syringe [Re: verminute]
#7810597 - 12/29/07 01:43 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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you should definitely have seen something..
maybe there is something wrong with the bag or maybe alacabenzi doesn't grow on rye? i'm just speculating though..
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Re: Questionable Spore Syringe [Re: im_on_a_boat]
#7810613 - 12/29/07 01:51 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Do you have supplies for a PF Tek? Some spores left? Test it out in a jar, verifiy it was bunk.
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Re: Questionable Spore Syringe [Re: verminute]
#7811263 - 12/29/07 06:04 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Transparency isn't an issue, as spores are microscopic in size. Some of my best grows have come from crystal clear syringes.
Chances are, as it is your first attempt, that you did something wrong.
Describe your procedure better and if we can't find any obvious mistakes, contact the vendors and maybe you will get a replacement.
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Re: Questionable Spore Syringe [Re: Nibin]
#7811293 - 12/29/07 06:18 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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spores101 are not currently sponsors so you cant really mention them.
I am not sure of the reasonings why but hopefully they will be back i have not had any problems with them.
Its quite possible the syringe was a duff, it happens time to time even with trusted sponsors, try them in a pf tek, if you only used 1 rye back you should still have spores left.
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Re: Questionable Spore Syringe [Re: veda_sticks]
#7811318 - 12/29/07 06:26 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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He can mention them, just not link to them.
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Re: Questionable Spore Syringe [Re: veda_sticks]
#7811325 - 12/29/07 06:29 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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spore vendor who must not be named is that the one that says innersite trading or something like that on the package im stoned an i forget where i got my spores
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Re: Questionable Spore Syringe [Re: verminute]
#7811574 - 12/29/07 07:58 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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verminute said: Did you shake the needle? Pores are tiny, most of them are clear, if you shake enough and hold under a light you might see a couple black specs.
Spore101 seem to have a bad rap.
Did you freeze the needle, where they old?
WQhy would someone freeze the needle??? Like nibin said, some of the best grows come from syringes that you can not see any spores in. Pf used to put out almost clear syringes and they were the most viable and sterile that I have seen. I have heard of some companies using carbon in the syringe to make people/rookies think that there is a shit load of spores in there. For some reason people think the darker the syringe the better, this is not true.
As for spore101, they have put out a ton of bad syringes lately. I would not be surprised if this is one of them
next time use sporeworks. I just used one of there syringes that was 4 years old aand not stored in the fridge and it is healthy and growing fine
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Re: Questionable Spore Syringe [Re: tahoe]
#7811599 - 12/29/07 08:05 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Thats a shame, cause im in the uk and they were the only ones i could order from the us and ship here.
Time to start taking spore prints and clones.
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Re: Questionable Spore Syringe [Re: MushyTom]
#7811729 - 12/29/07 08:59 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Lol, I ordered from them by mail on the 8th of this month. Didn't ship my order till I emailed them yesterday. Mistakes happen.
However, I got a crystal clear syringe from microsupply. So far 3 days and nothing, but that doesn't neccessarily mean anything. The last ones I ordered had a lot more black specks in them. Anyone ever order from these guys? Just curious.
I think I'll stick with sponsors from now on...
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Re: Questionable Spore Syringe [Re: likwid]
#7811758 - 12/29/07 09:11 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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i would stick with ralphsters, i got a syringe from him and i think that it was my cakes that were not sterilized properly (my fault) and he sent me another syringe for free.
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Re: Questionable Spore Syringe [Re: wikedferret]
#7811836 - 12/29/07 09:43 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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I got 6 different kinds from Ralph the other day and every one but one had a nice thick clump in each of them and the one that didn't had a little mysc growing in it tho so you can tell there is some in there lol. You can also put dark syringe in his note box it says in the FAQ and he will send you a thicker one even tho he thinks its a waste and they already come so thick.
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Re: Questionable Spore Syringe [Re: Nibin]
#7812245 - 12/30/07 12:16 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Quote:
Nibin said:Spores are microscopic in size. Some of my best grows have come from crystal clear syringes.
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Re: Questionable Spore Syringe [Re: veda_sticks]
#7812680 - 12/30/07 05:39 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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veda_sticks said: Thats a shame, cause I'm in the UK and they were the only ones i could order from the us and ship here.
Time to start taking spore prints and clones.
Prints and clones a definitely the way. Keep hold of the strains you have. 
Sorry guys gonna go OT for a second here.
Veda
You probably already know but just in case... I'm in the UK as well and I just got a print (Keepers Creeper) back from www.fsre.nl for 1 Euro I shall be sending some back in time and will probably use them every time I fancy a new strain. Just thought I'd give them a mention..
Eric and Ingrid deserve a shout every now and again. They are doing a great job.    
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Re: Questionable Spore Syringe [Re: shaggydogman]
#7812697 - 12/30/07 06:03 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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yeah whats up with spores 101 I bought 6 strains of Cubensis about a month and a half ago, and put my first grow under my belt, but now I am noticing that all of my mushroom seem to look the EXACT same with the exception of the "colorado" strain which seems to resemble the Malabar Coast upon maturation. I think that they only sent me 2 different strains, but eh.. either way they were very potent from the first flushes but not so great from the second. P. Azurescens and Penis Envy and Weraroa novea-zelandiae from a different source are in the works now
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Re: Questionable Spore Syringe [Re: P.Menace]
#7812721 - 12/30/07 06:57 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Ah yeah i forgot about them, i will give them ago. I just need to make sure i definatly take spore prints so i can return the favour.
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Re: Questionable Spore Syringe [Re: veda_sticks]
#7814039 - 12/30/07 03:21 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Azarius.net, which is a shroomery sponsor is also in Europe.
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MushyTom
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Re: Questionable Spore Syringe [Re: Nibin]
#7815466 - 12/30/07 10:54 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Ok well first off, sorry about the "non-sponsored" link. I assumed they where a good vendor.
Ill take some pictures of my setup to show everyone how its going.
The syringe was shipped via USPS, so temperatures im sure where a bit cool on the way here. Same goes for the Growbags, i did let them sit for 24 hours in room temperatures before starting everything up.
As it is now though, i may just have to scrap everything and start over with more documented strains from more reliable suppliers.
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Re: Questionable Spore Syringe [Re: MushyTom]
#7817093 - 12/31/07 01:30 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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MushyTom said: Ok well first off, sorry about the "non-sponsored" link. I assumed they where a good vendor.
Ill take some pictures of my setup to show everyone how its going.
The syringe was shipped via USPS, so temperatures im sure where a bit cool on the way here. Same goes for the Growbags, i did let them sit for 24 hours in room temperatures before starting everything up.
As it is now though, i may just have to scrap everything and start over with more documented strains from more reliable suppliers.
They were sponsors until not long ago, when various complaints on the quality of their syringes and other issued made site admins decide to stop the sponsorship until they sorted out these issues.
They will probably be back soon.
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Re: Questionable Spore Syringe [Re: Nibin]
#7817179 - 12/31/07 01:54 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Nibin said:
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MushyTom said: Ok well first off, sorry about the "non-sponsored" link. I assumed they where a good vendor.
Ill take some pictures of my setup to show everyone how its going.
The syringe was shipped via USPS, so temperatures im sure where a bit cool on the way here. Same goes for the Growbags, i did let them sit for 24 hours in room temperatures before starting everything up.
As it is now though, i may just have to scrap everything and start over with more documented strains from more reliable suppliers.
They were sponsors until not long ago, when various complaints on the quality of their syringes and other issued made site admins decide to stop the sponsorship until they sorted out these issues.
They will probably be back soon.
i hope so ,i just made my second order through them,cause i was happy with the first order,then i got worried when i saw they weren't sponsors any more but im confident if i have any problems they will fix them.oh yeah the shroomery discount still worked when i placed my order!
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Edited by Substance D (12/31/07 05:06 PM)
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Re: Questionable Spore Syringe [Re: Substance D]
#7889160 - 01/16/08 05:08 PM (16 years, 16 days ago) |
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Update!
I ended up taking some pics but its not even worth posting, the Rye just turned darker and darker as time went on. I will however post some shots of my incubator when i have a chance.
I have Scraped the entire grow and chucked the grow bag into the garbage.
I still believe i did everything to the dot, i had no strange growths, Humidity was always around 90% Temp around 75-80F, Nice air flow through some air stones into sterilized water.
My incubator was created after viewing the way this guy setup his. http://www.shroomery.org/8432/From-syringe-to-print-using-rye
All was well until nothing decided to grow!
What does everyone here recommend i use for my next purchase of spores? Who? What? etc...
Edited by MushyTom (01/16/08 05:09 PM)
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Re: Questionable Spore Syringe [Re: MushyTom]
#7889171 - 01/16/08 05:10 PM (16 years, 16 days ago) |
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nm didnt read back.
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Edited by donpatch (01/16/08 05:10 PM)
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verminute
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Re: Questionable Spore Syringe [Re: donpatch]
#7889186 - 01/16/08 05:15 PM (16 years, 16 days ago) |
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Go PF Tek, the simple most common guide. Use a sponser, I recommend lil shop of spores. Here, have a free syringe since you've had such a hard time. Use coupon 'LILSHOPFREE'.
Pick the most common species, I assume that would be B+...
Print out multiple versions of the PF Tek and read them more than once. Everytime you re-read the Tek you learn something new...
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Re: Questionable Spore Syringe [Re: verminute]
#7889796 - 01/16/08 07:16 PM (16 years, 16 days ago) |
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Sporeworks all the way!!!
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