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OfflineBabylon2012
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Fear of death trauma
    #7810464 - 12/29/07 12:38 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Hey everyone!

I read many times on ego-death or near death/rebirth experiences on mushrooms. Yesterday evening, I shroomed with my girlfriend and another couple. All of us had shroomed before 5-6 times. We took only 1.5g dry each.

We had a nice walk in the national park 5 min walk from my house. We sat in the middle of the trail and laughed and contemplated the forest. Then we were surprised by 4 skiers. They "caught" us while we were laughing very loudly. We totally felt "busted". It busted our bubble. Then we started walking back home kind of in a hurry. We saw a police car and I taught the skiers called the police, for some reason. Alice (my friend's gf) was walking ahead of us. She wanted to get home, quick.

When we came home, we started laughing again and enjoying our time. But at some point, Alice said "I'm not feeling well at all". We stopped the music, she got on her feet. She went in the kitchen and walked around in confusion. "Something's wrong". I knew that she was going through something hard. We made her feel like we were with her and that everything would be okay. And a minute later, she felt ok again. She had tears in her eyes. "I was abssolutely sure I was going to die, but then I saw fear in my boyfriend's eyes and it's what brought me back. I felt completely away from you guys, the rooms were different. The kitchen wasn't the same, neither the living room."

She had other smaller episodes of discomfort during the evening. I felt like she wanted to just go home, she wanted the trip to end. She asked how long it would last. We put a movie but it confused us all. I felt a bit responsible since I had grown those mushshrooms and I was the one praising their qualities. My opinion was that the experience she gone trough will have positive consequences in the future for her, at one condition: that she takes time to understand and make peace with what happened to her.

I spoke with her on the phone this morning. We reviewed what happened. She told me she doesn't think she will take mushrooms again in the future. I think she wasn't prepared for that kind of experience. I never thought it would happen on such a low dose, however it did.

I hope she will make her peace with her experience. My friend got scared seeing his girlfriend going through such hard emotions.

All in all, we all had a good memorable evening.

Shrooms are not a party drug. It's a voyage in the psyche.

Those who are not ready for this should prepare themselves if they want to do shrooms, even on low dose. You do not choose where you go. The mushrooms decide. However, it's all in our head. That's the message. Everything is just in our head. The rest is just an illusion, it's just words. The important is what we feel, what we experience, and how we integrate it in our everyday life.



Now, I'm not too sure what to say to her, to help her understand and integrate her experience... What would you say?


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Re: Fear of death trauma [Re: Babylon2012]
    #7810480 - 12/29/07 12:45 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Only thing you can do is let her do her thing. Don't try to "enlighten" her on the positives, if she feels she's better without them then so be it.

I know we all want everyone to see the beauty in mushrooms because it has helped ourselves so much but unfortunately some just aren't right for the experience.


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Re: Fear of death trauma [Re: BirdsIView]
    #7818429 - 12/31/07 08:58 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

For some of us the doors of perception are a wondrous gate to be swung wide open with awe and wonder for others it is the gates of hell holding back the demons of the bardo state. I have no idea where I am on this trip let alone where any others are. One of two possibility's a release from the ego or a crushing blow into insanity of self recrimination the sin state lie.The crawl through ego death is scary and takes time if your friend is prone to the ego death experience then the last place she needs is a party type atmosphere a space with a close friend that has no judgment that loves them good or bad right or wrong that has no opinion other than I love you and when it is over I will still love you no matter what happens is all they need and after it happens they may well say OMG never never again..... just remember PSYCHE knows her business.


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Re: Fear of death trauma [Re: Babylon2012]
    #7818434 - 12/31/07 09:02 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

one in ten people die from mushrooms, i understand her fear.

Why did she feel she was going to die? Is she retarded?

Don't force shit on people like christians do.


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