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the b4r0n
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help with fruiting chamber
#7807897 - 12/28/07 04:24 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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i have a colonized pf cake (dunked/rolled, cold shocked) in a fruiting chamber made from a cooler with perlite humidification and though nothing is really going definitively wrong, i just have a couple questions the cake just seems to be growing more mycelium, instead of pinning, as if it was still in the jar. i have noticed since i put in the cake that it has like grown these lumps of mycelium that at first i htought were pins, but after looking at them, they dont really seem like pins at all. since im using a one LED nightlight as a light, which i keep on pretty much 24hrs, its kinda dim. i was wondering if possibly im not getting pins because its too dark in my FC, and it needs more light to switch from vegetative to fruiting. i bought this flourescent light thing today and it seems alot brighter, im going to put in in my chamber later.
i was just wondering if u guys think that the bigger light will help for it to start pinning, or if theres even another reason why they arent pinning, i just want to get this straightened out before i put in my casing next week. ille let you know how the bigger light goes
heres some pics
 thats the new light that im going to be putting in it
this is the FC now, the pic makes it look alot brighter than it is
the cake
in this pic u can see one of the white bumps that i was talking about
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Re: help with fruiting chamber [Re: the b4r0n]
#7807920 - 12/28/07 04:32 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Why cold shock? it is not relevant for cubes as they are a tropical species.
Also, how long did the cakes stay in the jar after 100% surface colonization?
What is your RH?
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Re: help with fruiting chamber [Re: Nibin]
#7807928 - 12/28/07 04:37 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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I dont know about the cold shock, i just read it somewhere as being a good plan...guess not though.
pretty much when i thought that the cakes were colonized I took them out, then rolled them in vermiculite later I dont know what RH is though lol
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Re: help with fruiting chamber [Re: the b4r0n]
#7807934 - 12/28/07 04:38 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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You should have read some more.
Cakes should sit in the jar for a week after full surface colonization for the mycelium to consolidate it's hold on the substrate. If you take them out of the jar before, they will just sit in the fruiting chamber drying out for that week.
RH = Relative Humidity
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Re: help with fruiting chamber [Re: Nibin]
#7807972 - 12/28/07 04:48 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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that sucks. I didn't know that. how important is that? like is the cake just going to dry up? because it definitely seems pretty humid in the FC, but i cant afford a hygrometer or w/e right this second, but the perlite seems to be working
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Re: help with fruiting chamber [Re: the b4r0n]
#7808009 - 12/28/07 05:03 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Just sit the cakes in a saucer/s of water in the fruiting chamber for 12h so they can suck up some water.
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Re: help with fruiting chamber [Re: Nibin]
#7808042 - 12/28/07 05:18 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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im not sure thats the problem though, beacuse the cake doesnt seem dry at all i might do that anyway though
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Re: help with fruiting chamber [Re: Nibin]
#7808043 - 12/28/07 05:18 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Are you actually using a blue-colored light or is that just the photograph?
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the b4r0n
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its definitely a little blue, but the picture makes it seem alot more blue and brighter
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Re: help with fruiting chamber [Re: the b4r0n]
#7808055 - 12/28/07 05:25 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Here's why I ask, just found some threads. I don't think you want "blue" light. You want regular white light or sunlight or fluorescent/incandescent light if you don't have a special grow light. "Blue" light isn't really blue....
Here's what RR and Anno had to say on the matter....
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/7086332#7086332
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/3137372#3137372
I can't give you any opinion on if that is contributing to your situation or not, but seem worth pointing out.
Is yours a "blue spectrum" LED (whatever that might be?)?
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the b4r0n
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i have no idea really, its just an LED night light that i found, and it seems just a tiny bit blue.
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Re: help with fruiting chamber [Re: the b4r0n]
#7808856 - 12/28/07 10:15 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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The new light you bought will definatly be better than what you have now, its not the colour of light thats important its the spectrum the light produces, between 6000-7000k.
Im not sure of the colour temp of that light, is it daylight>?? anyhows it will definatly better.
Wait 5 days minim once fully colinised.
It wont cause too much problems, it just may take upto a week extra to pin and possibly dry out the substrate.
Make sure you are fanning out 4-6 times a day, give the FC a good mist before fanning.
Oh ind im sure i see at least 2 pins maybe 3 on that cake, thers is something on the top which suspicously looks like a pin, and i can see 2 on the side neer the bottom which look like pins.
Or is that just perlite, closer pic??
If they are u will know in a day or so, the heads will start to turn redish brown.
Is that lipa yia strain?? reason i ask is cause on my grow, my pins looked like whats on the top of that cake, they always started of white with a light yellow head. That is if its a pin
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Re: help with fruiting chamber [Re: veda_sticks]
#7924927 - 01/24/08 04:09 PM (16 years, 8 days ago) |
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IF your light is a blue led the glass over the light actually isnt blue,its painted blue,And from what i understand color and spectrom are two differetn things.so led's probley arnt the best choise. And as mentioned above i think you bithed prematuarrly.
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Re: help with fruiting chamber [Re: 1111]
#7925433 - 01/24/08 05:45 PM (16 years, 8 days ago) |
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Blue is bad. You want bright fluorescent light on a 12/12 schedule, NOT 24/7. Light, humidity, and lots of fresh air are the pinning triggers, once a substrate is fully colonized.
You can pick up the cake and tell by the weight if it's dry or not. If so, repeat the dunk and roll. RR
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