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OfflineFoxFyre
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First time Salvia
    #7806385 - 12/28/07 01:33 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Went and got some 20X salvia tonight and smoked a bit with a friend. Initially, just the salvia itself. When I did first did this, I felt effects pretty quickly, almost like an airplane take off with something pressing down against me. It wasn't super enjoyable, nor did I hate it. Then, I realized that I was going to be getting into something intense and got kind of worried about it. But the feeling passed, and then was gone altogether. Was expecting visuals or a dimension shift or something equally reality-breaking, but nothing. Think it may have to do with the fact that I wasn't ready to let go.

We then smoked some mixed with weed, and just played Mario Kart. Nothing really unusual. Was able to walk around, get drinks, etc. Not sure if I didn't smoke enough or not.

Did I not "break through"?

Really want to try again, but I'm home by myself now and would probably prefer a sitter.


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Invisibleim_on_a_boat
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Re: First time Salvia [Re: FoxFyre]
    #7806415 - 12/28/07 01:50 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

word.. it's a pretty profound thing to happen and im thinking 20x would get you there..


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Re: First time Salvia [Re: im_on_a_boat]
    #7806451 - 12/28/07 02:09 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Gonna try the salvia/pot mix again, gonna go sit on the couch and see if I just needed another environment.


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Re: First time Salvia [Re: FoxFyre]
    #7806453 - 12/28/07 02:12 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

If you have a bong, load a bit and take a big rip, hold it in for a LONG time; you'll break through.


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Re: First time Salvia [Re: Leinahtan]
    #7806457 - 12/28/07 02:14 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

No bong.  :frown:  I'll just try to take a big hit...Here goes nothing!  Been wanting to shroom alone for a while, we'll see how this goes, even tho' salvia is a completely different experience, I feel good about it.  Let's hope the vibes pull through to the other side.  :smile:  Alice in Wonderland should help!  Haha.


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Edited by FoxFyre (12/28/07 02:18 AM)


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Re: First time Salvia [Re: FoxFyre]
    #7806471 - 12/28/07 02:21 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

word i had to take a humongous (big daddy mr nasty time) rip from the bong to get some effects off salvia and WHOA you'll know when you break through..


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Re: First time Salvia [Re: im_on_a_boat]
    #7806572 - 12/28/07 03:46 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Yea...I donno.  Didn't do much.  I just chilled out on the couch in my couch, curled up in my blanket and watched the movie.  Wasn't much different than a normal high.  Things seemed a little bit more surreal than normal...Best explanation I can come up with.  But nothing like described when someone has broken through.

Will have to give the bong rip a try.  Thanks for the advice :smile:


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Re: First time Salvia [Re: FoxFyre]
    #7806872 - 12/28/07 09:21 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Don't mix it with weed. That works out great for a nice buzz once you are more experienced and sensitive to salvia but, mixing it together in the bowl right now may prevent you from getting a strong enough dose of the salvia.

Pack your bowl full. Don't light it and pull like you would with tobacco or weed. Instead keep the flame flowing through the salvia for the entire time that you are hitting it. That is very important with salvia. Take in as much as you can hold in for 20 to 30 seconds. Longer is better. If you are still able to take a second or third hit then do so as soon as you exhale.

If you achieve a breakthrough you will know it. There will be no doubt.


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Re: First time Salvia [Re: TripityDooDaDay]
    #7806985 - 12/28/07 09:58 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

next time you try to "break thru" take your hit, and lay down on your back, like on a bed our couch. hold the hit as long as you can and just think of something that makes you happy - a movie, favorite joke, a fun place to go. just lay back and close your eyes you will break thru easily.

i do that every time i do salvia and i smoke salvia everyweekend for the past year - i smoke 10x and never have troubles having full-blown trips


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Re: First time Salvia [Re: FoxFyre]
    #7807138 - 12/28/07 11:14 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

and dont forget that salvia has a reverse tolerance. every instance ought to be stronger than the last, at least that's how it has been for me.

sounds like you might be botching the technique a bit though. as tripity mentioned, make sure you hold it in AS LONG AS YOU POSSIBLY CAN. every second that smoke is in you, it is absorbing into your system. it's not like dmt where you feel the shit almost instantly, but you will notice it after a short time. if you hold your breath up until you start to feel reality sort of slur and fall away/apart then i think at that point you're in there pretty well :laugh:

i've managed to do this after only one hit, you may require more though.

some other common advice is to use a torch lighter (for the high vaporization temp of salvinorin A), also make sure to keep the lighter on the extract.

as for the breakthrough; it is very noticeable. even the slightest degree past breakthrough threshold is going to involve a MAJOR degree of dissolution. this will catch you off guard. it always does, lol.

i dont want to discourage you from it or anything, but i wanted to mention that salvia can be very rough on the psyche. shouldnt be anything life scarring or anything, but IT IS VERY INTENSE. you might be a bit jumpy after you come down, but after about an hour you'll be back to baseline and the whole thing will seem much more interesting. anyway, this is about where the post should probably end, so i'll just say have fun and feel free to report on it!


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Re: First time Salvia [Re: DontFearThePeepr]
    #7807628 - 12/28/07 02:57 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Thanks for the input!  I'll try again tonight with a sitter around.  Only tried a bit when I tried the salvia by itself.  The smoke was harsh, made me cough, etcetc.

I did feel the "intensity" and a sudden rush, and then felt like my entire body was being pushed to the left, but beyond that, nothing.  I'll try taking another hit tho'.  I was worried about taking too big of a hit, but now that I'm sort of aware of what it can do, I think I just need another hit to break through.  :smile:

Will try again and report the results!

Once again, thanks!


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