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OfflineAlCapwn
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I thought you guys were joking when...
    #7806065 - 12/27/07 11:21 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

You said that mushrooms make you gay. Holy fuck man, what the fuck was that about. I'm absolutely not gay, but man, during a 10 gram mushroom trip man. What? Why? Being gay feels fucking weird maaaaan.

Also, to make this clear, i'm otherwise perfectly straight and am accepting all pictures of vagoo in my PMs.


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Re: I thought you guys were joking when... [Re: AlCapwn]
    #7806072 - 12/27/07 11:22 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

lol. Mushrooms tend to break down pre-conceived notions and emotional barriers, making you able to love everyone equally.


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Re: I thought you guys were joking when... [Re: AlCapwn]
    #7806091 - 12/27/07 11:27 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

yeah, I've noticed some gay-dium whenever i trip sometimes...

It's weird, but, you know. Who really cares.


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Re: I thought you guys were joking when... [Re: Drewwyann]
    #7806114 - 12/27/07 11:33 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Haha, it's fucked. Being gay is awesome I guess. It's not every day someone has gone gay and back.


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Re: I thought you guys were joking when... [Re: AlCapwn]
    #7806118 - 12/27/07 11:34 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

In all seriousness, I know exactly what you're talking about. I've never been sexually attracted to another male while tripping, but I feel extremely comfortable around them, and don't really mind doing things that would be considered gay if I were sober.

I don't want to creep my friends out of anything, but I have had some preeetty gay thoughts while tripping. Not about my friends, but just in general.

Theres really not a way I can talk about this without cracking a joke about it. It just isn't possible for me.


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Re: I thought you guys were joking when... [Re: Drewwyann]
    #7806132 - 12/27/07 11:39 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

psst you guys... sounds like he's in denial.


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Re: I thought you guys were joking when... [Re: learningtofly]
    #7806136 - 12/27/07 11:42 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

i am not...












dude... you wanna like... come over and stuff? I need a guy-friend to ease my loneliness.


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Re: I thought you guys were joking when... [Re: learningtofly]
    #7806139 - 12/27/07 11:42 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

I don't think its being gay. I think its more like being open to everything. Which makes you think its more gay then normal because you wouldn't normally be doing it.

I don't think you are experiencing anything not normal. But it just sounds like you are trying to put a word to your feeling.


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Re: I thought you guys were joking when... [Re: todesengel]
    #7806163 - 12/27/07 11:55 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

its only gay if you liked it


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Re: I thought you guys were joking when... [Re: Drewwyann]
    #7806197 - 12/28/07 12:05 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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Drewwyann said:I have had some preeetty gay thoughts while tripping




LMAO!


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Re: I thought you guys were joking when... [Re: danlennon3]
    #7806204 - 12/28/07 12:08 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

That's the thing about being gay, I did. If it was repulsive, I wouldn't have made this post but it was like "WOOO I'M GAY".

And Todesengel, I dunno, it felt like genuine gay to me.


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Re: I thought you guys were joking when... [Re: AlCapwn]
    #7806383 - 12/28/07 01:32 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

ive never had gay thoughts while tripping mush, or anything


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Re: I thought you guys were joking when... [Re: 2859558484]
    #7806640 - 12/28/07 05:54 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

ya, i would say the mushrooms are releasing some repressed feelings or something. I'm not homophobic by any means, I'm accepting of all types... but I have to say, I have no idea what you are talking about when you try to blame gay thoughts on mushrooms.


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Re: I thought you guys were joking when... [Re: kotik]
    #7806658 - 12/28/07 06:36 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Try not to spread this too far, people might get the wrong idea.

I've never had a gay thought on shrooms. Matter of fact, I like to think about what i'd do to this girl next door more times then not.


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Re: I thought you guys were joking when... [Re: shizznit]
    #7806691 - 12/28/07 07:03 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

I once felt like i wanted to hug my freind, like spooning LOL!

But i also wanted to be involved in an orgy :smile:


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Re: I thought you guys were joking when... [Re: Chronic7]
    #7806698 - 12/28/07 07:13 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

I thought this was all a joke till i remembered my first shroom trip and my friend was humping my couch, idk if that counts


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Re: I thought you guys were joking when... [Re: Chronic7]
    #7806703 - 12/28/07 07:16 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

I think shrooms make already gay people gayer. I really have no interest in sex whatsoever while tripping.


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Re: I thought you guys were joking when... [Re: Irradiated_Feces]
    #7806815 - 12/28/07 08:56 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

So THAT'S what that "humming" sound is when I'm shroomin!


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Re: I thought you guys were joking when... [Re: Irradiated_Feces]
    #7806817 - 12/28/07 08:57 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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Irradiated_Feces said:I really have no interest in sex whatsoever while tripping.



Same here, I physically feel too disconnected to do anything...


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Re: I thought you guys were joking when... [Re: Querjek]
    #7806852 - 12/28/07 09:15 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Because it has never happened to me doesn't mean I will dismiss it so quickly. If mushrooms can make you BELIEVE that Martian crickets are coming, I can see how chemical influences can make you think anything. Your brain is capable of more than what you allow yourself to be.


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Re: I thought you guys were joking when... [Re: 04281969]
    #7806926 - 12/28/07 09:37 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Mushrooms make me feel happy as well.
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You have to realize that the "things" you feel (or the suppression you DONT feel) are completely normal for some people who are sober. Some dudes like athletes shower naked together and slap each other in the locker rooms, trust me I've been there. Not to mention, think about 3rd world countries like Middle East, the dudes I hung out with like... touch you and stuff... they're not gay and technically there's nothing wrong with it but .. growing up in AMERICA  :matrixfight: makes you form a bubble around yourself! So who is right?


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Re: I thought you guys were joking when... [Re: AlCapwn]
    #7807096 - 12/28/07 10:55 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

:lol: AlCpwn.

I'm a tri-sexual: I like men, woman and dancing with myself.

I've never heard anything about mushrooms and gayness til' I signed up at this site; in fact ya'll guys on here have tons of shit that is new to me: thanks for FILLING my HEAD with LOADS of information GUYS.


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Re: I thought you guys were joking when... [Re: 04281969]
    #7807139 - 12/28/07 11:14 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

LOL. The first time I tripped I hit on a girl and I am gay! :tongue:


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Re: I thought you guys were joking when... [Re: cactastic]
    #7807265 - 12/28/07 12:18 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

heh
I think almost noone is 100% straight or gay.
So when you trip some suppressed feelings may come up, and they may get a little exaggerated even.


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Re: I thought you guys were joking when... [Re: AlCapwn]
    #7807576 - 12/28/07 02:33 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

:gayflag::sissies::sissies:

Never.


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Re: I thought you guys were joking when... [Re: Floop]
    #7807588 - 12/28/07 02:38 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Wow...this reminds me of something.

back when i was like..15. before knowing anything about tripping or shrooms. I was at a party, everyone was smoking herb, getting drunk, etc. normal high school shit. and one dude came that had some shrooms.

He ate them with one other dude pretty late in the evening, and everyone was pretty much passed out and asleep all over the house. I remember kinda waking up and sitting up, and watching those two dudes trip on the couch. And i could have swore they started making out. I didn't wanna watch, or admit that i seen it, but i'm pretty sure it happened, lol. I just went back to sleep on the floor, and turned my ass towards the wall, lol


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Re: I thought you guys were joking when... [Re: 04281969]
    #7807809 - 12/28/07 03:55 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

i have no idea what you guys mean either, me and my girlfriend have the most amazing sex after we both shroom.


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Re: I thought you guys were joking when... [Re: enesi]
    #7807830 - 12/28/07 04:02 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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enesi said:
Wow...this reminds me of something.

back when i was like..15. before knowing anything about tripping or shrooms. I was at a party, everyone was smoking herb, getting drunk, etc. normal high school shit. and one dude came that had some shrooms.

He ate them with one other dude pretty late in the evening, and everyone was pretty much passed out and asleep all over the house. I remember kinda waking up and sitting up, and watching those two dudes trip on the couch. And i could have swore they started making out. I didn't wanna watch, or admit that i seen it, but i'm pretty sure it happened, lol. I just went back to sleep on the floor, and turned my ass towards the wall, lol




Lol. They were probably just trying to lick each other's eyeballs.


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Re: I thought you guys were joking when... [Re: g00ru]
    #7807839 - 12/28/07 04:05 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: I thought you guys were joking when... [Re: McLovin727]
    #7807849 - 12/28/07 04:07 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

If your tripping with your girlfriend your not tripping with dudes DUH

Trip hard with one dude and no girl and see how good you feel after :penis::goatse::penis::goatse::penis::goatse::penis::goatse::penis::goatse::penis::goatse::penis::goatse::penis::goatse::penis::goatse::penis::goatse::penis::goatse::penis::goatse::penis::goatse::penis::goatse::penis::goatse::penis::goatse::penis::goatse::penis::goatse::penis::goatse::penis::goatse:


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Re: I thought you guys were joking when... [Re: Floop]
    #7807953 - 12/28/07 04:43 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

Floop said:
heh
I think almost noone is 100% straight or gay.
So when you trip some suppressed feelings may come up, and they may get a little exaggerated even.




no way man. if you say something gay, and your at a 90% straight to 10% gay ratio, i doubt that the tenth time you wanna bone, that you bone a dudes.

btw, mdma. that will turn you gay. And if you grow PE, someone can only make fun of you for eating a dick.


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Re: I thought you guys were joking when... [Re: Cacophony]
    #7807997 - 12/28/07 04:58 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

You know, after eating some mushrooms, I think it's you.
It made me really horny, maybe even wanting something kinky for a while there, but it was just for girls.

So, you might want to investigate your interests. Especially if it's more than a one time thing. Because you're probably gay. At least bi.
Not that it's a bad thing...


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Re: I thought you guys were joking when... [Re: Ness1]
    #7808149 - 12/28/07 06:01 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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AlCapwn said:
You said that mushrooms make you gay. Holy fuck man, what the fuck was that about. I'm absolutely not gay, but man, during a 10 gram mushroom trip man. What? Why? Being gay feels fucking weird maaaaan.

Also, to make this clear, i'm otherwise perfectly straight and am accepting all pictures of vagoo in my PMs.




explain in more detail how you felt gay?  do you actually mean gay as in "having or showing a merry, lively mood"?  or do you mean homosexual gay?

Quote:

Ness1 said:
lol. Mushrooms tend to break down pre-conceived notions and emotional barriers, making you able to love everyone equally.




this is usually referred to as "ego-loss" or "ego-death" or some other term that starts with "ego".

AlCapwn, i think you may have some inner issues and should stop using mushrooms.  :shrug:


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Re: I thought you guys were joking when... [Re: LayYouIn]
    #7808154 - 12/28/07 06:03 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

^Ego-death is the complete destruction of the ego. The loss of knowing who you are or even what you are. What I referred to is more ego-softening.


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Re: I thought you guys were joking when... [Re: Ness1]
    #7808175 - 12/28/07 06:08 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

he did mean gay as in happy gay right? because i figure that's normal on shrooms. as far as homosexual gay goes, never heard of that on shrooms.

see what american culture has done to our vocabulary...


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Re: I thought you guys were joking when... [Re: LayYouIn]
    #7808200 - 12/28/07 06:18 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

No...he meant homosexual.


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Re: I thought you guys were joking when... [Re: LayYouIn]
    #7808211 - 12/28/07 06:22 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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AlCapwn, i think you may have some inner issues and should stop using mushrooms.  :shrug:




I think the opposite. I think that if mushrooms helped him realize his true nature, there is absolutely no reason to cease mushroom use. This trip has only in fact strengthened him.


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Re: I thought you guys were joking when... [Re: Leinahtan]
    #7808283 - 12/28/07 06:53 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

haha I'm completely straight but i once asked a dude to do it while on DOC. I also tried jacking off in front of like 6 people the same night...that was THE definition of ego death, in which I later felt I entered "enternity" and such during a long trance/sleep

like ness1 said, I can see mushies causing ego-softening, a minor form of what I experienced


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Re: I thought you guys were joking when... [Re: primativezen]
    #7808366 - 12/28/07 07:28 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

so did he actually have some sort of sexual interaction with a man?

or did he just have intense feelings of being gay


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Re: I thought you guys were joking when... [Re: Seventy]
    #7808926 - 12/28/07 10:33 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

This is stupid actually.

Anybody who has done high doses of shrooms should know, weird fuckin shit can happen. Believing that you are gay is no more unbelievable than, say, believing that your thoughts and memories had expanded to the point where you are now the equivalent of god.

When you aren't sure if you exist or not, how can you be sure what your goddam sexuality is?


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Re: I thought you guys were joking when... [Re: Seventy]
    #7814575 - 12/30/07 05:35 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Nothing happened but if the other guy had been gay I don't know what would have happened to be honest. The entire night seems almost like a dream. It seemed as if my subconscious directed all my actions, as it does in your dreams. I didn't actually have the thought "I'm gay", it was more like a loss of sexuality as guruu said. I also tried to get on girls (unsuccessfully lol) and ended up pleasuring myself in front of them all.


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Re: I thought you guys were joking when... [Re: Irradiated_Feces]
    #7814999 - 12/30/07 07:43 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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Irradiated_Feces said:
I think shrooms make already gay people gayer. I really have no interest in sex whatsoever while tripping.




So they must make straight people straighter I assume?


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Re: I thought you guys were joking when... [Re: AlCapwn]
    #7815519 - 12/30/07 11:17 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

To clear things up, I mean gay as in homosexual.

I didn't want to bone dudes, I just wanted like dude affection. Like, cuddling or whatever. And I was tripping with guys, and I didn't want it from them or anything either. I'm absolutely not homosexual. And don't think I may be in denial. Believe me, that mushroom trip made me think fucking hard about it and no, meat and manholes just don't cut it.

It's really hard to explain, but that was definately how i'd picture being gay feeling like, it was just like straight out loving men because they were men. I dunno man... prankster mushrooms perhaps?


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Re: I thought you guys were joking when... [Re: AlCapwn]
    #7815528 - 12/30/07 11:20 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Thats exactly what I thought when you made the original post.

I have the exact same feelings. Like I just wanna lay on my friends.

It has also made me question my sexuality many times, but every time it does, it reaffirms my current heterosexual standing.

So, I know exactly what you mean about 'cuddling' with friends. It's simply enjoyable to be close to them while tripping. I don't know what it is, but it truly is.

I have great urges to go and invade their space by falling on top of them while they are on a couch. I wouldn't call it gay though. Just more open.


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Re: I thought you guys were joking when... [Re: Drewwyann]
    #7815638 - 12/31/07 12:27 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Really, I think that it's just a massive emotional connection brought about by ego-softening and the sharing of such a profound experience.


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Re: I thought you guys were joking when... [Re: Ness1]
    #7815664 - 12/31/07 12:38 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

You're all a bunch of homos!


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Re: I thought you guys were joking when... [Re: RonaldFuckingPaul]
    #7815684 - 12/31/07 12:47 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

whats more pathetic, being open about your experiences in life, or being critical of other people's openness and experience in life? :strokebeard:


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    #7815688 - 12/31/07 12:49 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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You're all a bunch of homos!




I hope you're not serious.


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Re: I thought you guys were joking when... [Re: Ness1]
    #7815691 - 12/31/07 12:50 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

he's sarcastic.

If he's not, he is an asswipe.


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Re: I thought you guys were joking when... [Re: Drewwyann]
    #7815714 - 12/31/07 01:03 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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whats more pathetic, being open about your experiences in life, or being critical of other people's openness and experience in life? :strokebeard:




I was just kidding man..I think we've all felt a little homo at one point in our lives:awesome:


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    #7815718 - 12/31/07 01:05 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

I don't think what you felt was actual homosexuality.  It sounds like you just really really connected with your tripping buddies and wanted that connection to be physical.

If you actually were gay during the trip, you would want your dick in their assholes.

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Re: I thought you guys were joking when... [Re: RonaldFuckingPaul]
    #7815725 - 12/31/07 01:07 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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reeferaddict69 said:
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Drewwyann said:
whats more pathetic, being open about your experiences in life, or being critical of other people's openness and experience in life? :strokebeard:




I was just kidding man..I think we've all felt a little homo at one point in our lives:awesome:




I know you were kidding. It's all good. :thumbup:


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Re: I thought you guys were joking when... [Re: g00ru]
    #7815729 - 12/31/07 01:09 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

I have to agree with guruu. Sounds like y'all were just more touchy feely like girls while on shrooms, not gay. Unless one of you had the urge to be pumbled by a male friend or pumble a male friend which none of y'all have admitted to yet.  :sherlock:


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Re: I thought you guys were joking when... [Re: Acaterpillar]
    #7815733 - 12/31/07 01:13 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

i'm never gay on shroom trips although i almost always end up playing with my junk


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Re: I thought you guys were joking when... [Re: Acaterpillar]
    #7815740 - 12/31/07 01:14 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

ok, ok!

you just had to keep asking didnt you?


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Re: I thought you guys were joking when... [Re: g00ru]
    #7815744 - 12/31/07 01:15 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

I think there's two factors going into play, both already stated... 1, the fact that affection is very desirable in the mindstate because of the 'connections' and whatnot, and 2, your ego is weakened enough so that normal social, self-constructed mindframes and stigmas begin to melt... you'd want to cuddle with all of your friends, gay, straight, or not, on a normal basis if you weren't used to putting on your egomask that society has trained us so well to do... Affections a completely natural thing, and has nothing, whatsoever to do with sexuality... if you associate the too, you're following 'societie's' rules... we're animals... let's just be happy with that.


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Re: I thought you guys were joking when... [Re: emeryg89]
    #7815747 - 12/31/07 01:16 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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I think there's two factors going into play, both already stated... 1, the fact that affection is very desirable in the mindstate because of the 'connections' and whatnot, and 2, your ego is weakened enough so that normal social, self-constructed mindframes and stigmas begin to melt... you'd want to cuddle with all of your friends, gay, straight, or not, on a normal basis if you weren't used to putting on your egomask that society has trained us so well to do... Affections a completely natural thing, and has nothing, whatsoever to do with sexuality... if you associate the too, you're following 'societie's' rules... we're animals... let's just be happy with that.




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Re: I thought you guys were joking when... [Re: emeryg89]
    #7815755 - 12/31/07 01:19 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

I really like the way you put that. Well done. :thumbup:


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Re: I thought you guys were joking when... [Re: emeryg89]
    #7815756 - 12/31/07 01:20 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

is it wrong for me to think that's weird though? I just can't see myself seeking the affection of my male friends like that, even if it is just hugs and cuddles.

this whole mushrooms make you gay thing is fucking far out there, yet just as equally interesting. what is a good question though, is if we were stripped of our societal ego mask (without tripping), would we be a lot more affectionate with men, without necessarily being gay?


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Re: I thought you guys were joking when... [Re: Seventy]
    #7815763 - 12/31/07 01:25 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

^Probably. Physical affection and sexuality aren't necessarily related. I've hugged some of my male friends before in a totally non-sexual way. Like I said, it has to do with having a deep emotional connection with them in a non-sexual way.


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Re: I thought you guys were joking when... [Re: Seventy]
    #7815765 - 12/31/07 01:25 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

It is really weird to think about. And to say to yourself "I enjoy cuddling with my guy friends while on acid" of course sounds really gay.

But it isn't gay. I'm very comfortable with my sexuality, and I don't see any problem with two guys sitting or laying next to each other while tripping. As long as they don't have perverted thoughts, (or boners) I don't really see how it's gay at all.

If they plan it out before they trip, then I guess it's kind of gay.

Edit: one night, me and a bunch of friends took morning glory and some acid, and laid on the floor in a big "gay pile"

two of them were completely sober, which confused me, but what the hell. It was fun as fuck. (not literal fuck)

As emeryg put it, its just affection. It has nothing to do with sexuality.


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Re: I thought you guys were joking when... [Re: Drewwyann]
    #7815781 - 12/31/07 01:37 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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It is really weird to think about. And to say to yourself "I enjoy cuddling with my guy friends while on acid" of course sounds really gay.

But it isn't gay. I'm very comfortable with my sexuality, and I don't see any problem with two guys sitting or laying next to each other while tripping. As long as they don't have perverted thoughts, (or boners) I don't really see how it's gay at all.

If they plan it out before they trip, then I guess it's kind of gay.

Edit: one night, me and a bunch of friends took morning glory and some acid, and laid on the floor in a big "gay pile"

two of them were completely sober, which confused me, but what the hell. It was fun as fuck. (not literal fuck)

As emeryg put it, its just affection. It has nothing to do with sexuality.


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Re: I thought you guys were joking when... [Re: RonaldFuckingPaul]
    #7815784 - 12/31/07 01:41 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

say what you want reeferaddict, but it have never laughed so hard in my life.

except for the time I saw my friends school ID a while back while tripping on 3 hits of some gooooooood acid. He made the stupidest fucking face...

that was ridiculous...


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Re: I thought you guys were joking when... [Re: RonaldFuckingPaul]
    #7815787 - 12/31/07 01:45 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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Drewwyann said:
If they plan it out before they trip, then I guess it's kind of gay





that made me laugh out loud

but as said before, I guess this whole gay thing is just softening of the ego and a loss of inhibitions that society implies on us. if we're all comfortable with our sexuality then showing a little affection to another male doesn't mean you're gay ...just if you plan it out beforehand then you definitely are

this kinda thing just places people outside their comfort zone, and that makes people get weird.


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Re: I thought you guys were joking when... [Re: Ness1]
    #7815794 - 12/31/07 01:50 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

i've never like wanted to do anything gay on shrooms, but sometimes it does increase my affection for my male friends, just like you're a really good friend, i'm lucky to have you as a friend type feelings.


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Re: I thought you guys were joking when... [Re: Seventy]
    #7815796 - 12/31/07 01:51 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

^I don't know that planning it before hand makes it gay necessarily. Not saying that this is something I would do, but if you both know for a fact that it's something that you will feel like doing whilst tripping and are comfortable with your sexuality well, shit, why not? I don't see anything wrong with clearing it with your tripping buddy before hand as long as you know they won't freak out on you.


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Re: I thought you guys were joking when... [Re: Ness1]
    #7816696 - 12/31/07 11:19 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

this is funny

i also think there is distinction between people piling on top of each other and cuddling

its sort of fun to lay on top of a pile of people

a couple of my friends toppled onto me once when i was sitting on the couch. i was having some come-up anxiety and rolled out. they went into the other room and i just sat on the couch for a while, and then followed them to find them both tucked into the same bed. i thought nothing of it.

then my fourth friend, who was pacing the room like a mad scientist came in and his facial expression went completely blank. hilarious.


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    #7817305 - 12/31/07 02:30 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

hahhahahahah
I'm going to agree that it's probably just the fact your inhibitions are a little affected while tripping. you just don't think about gay things that often, so if at all, why not while trippin?

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    #7817339 - 12/31/07 02:39 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

I've sort of felt that on acid, but it wasn't gayness, it was more of just love for everyone and everything in the world.


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Re: I thought you guys were joking when... [Re: LSDaytripper]
    #7817611 - 12/31/07 03:55 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

So if mushrooms give you the ghey then actual homosexuals must be tripping ballz 24/7, I couldn't imagine :awesome:


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Re: I thought you guys were joking when... [Re: Ness1]
    #7817637 - 12/31/07 04:06 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

My friend just realized he was gay during our shroom trip from yesterday. No joke...


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Re: I thought you guys were joking when... [Re: g00ru]
    #7817689 - 12/31/07 04:22 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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guruu said:
If you actually were gay during the trip, you would want your dick in their assholes.

:penis:



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Re: I thought you guys were joking when... [Re: Epigallo]
    #7838728 - 01/06/08 10:27 AM (16 years, 26 days ago)

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to find them both tucked into the same bed. i thought nothing of it.

then my fourth friend, who was pacing the room like a mad scientist came in and his facial expression went completely blank. hilarious.




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    #7838791 - 01/06/08 10:42 AM (16 years, 26 days ago)

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So THAT'S what that "humming" sound is when I'm shroomin!




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Re: I thought you guys were joking when... [Re: why_not_me]
    #7839896 - 01/06/08 02:49 PM (16 years, 26 days ago)

It's funny to see just how uncomfortable this topic made a lot of the male posters here. As evident by the quality of posts. Whenever I shroom I forget about social norms, I can see where this would come from.


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Re: I thought you guys were joking when... [Re: rexmundi]
    #7840114 - 01/06/08 03:28 PM (16 years, 26 days ago)

i feel almost SUPERgay sometimes but at the smae time in my fucked up head it makes me laugh or maybe thats just my dual personality thing

all i know is if im doing something gay for my bros i think the furthest id feel comfortable going is cock blocking or buying them a heated, light up vibrator, thats all...


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Re: I thought you guys were joking when... [Re: Irradiated_Feces]
    #7840780 - 01/06/08 06:35 PM (16 years, 26 days ago)

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I think shrooms make already gay people gayer. I really have no interest in sex whatsoever while tripping.




Bingo!  100%.

For me, zero anything with sex while tripping.
This guy "Al capone"(hilarious) is obviously gay, and it just took this to bring it out.

Get a new avatar, one that doesn't try to convey "manlyness".  Maybe something pink.  :wink:


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    #7841160 - 01/06/08 08:14 PM (16 years, 26 days ago)

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bradley said:
to find them both tucked into the same bed. i thought nothing of it.

then my fourth friend, who was pacing the room like a mad scientist came in and his facial expression went completely blank. hilarious.




They should make a sitcom about a bunch of trippers living in the same house




eh, a sitcom isn't nearly as funny as the real thing :wink:

...have you ever recorded your conversations while tripping? We did that once when we were talking and laughing a lot, and then played it back. When we heard it we were like ...what the fuck, this doesn't sound like a sitcom. We are talking all slow and we sound retarded :lol:


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Re: I thought you guys were joking when... [Re: RonaldFuckingPaul]
    #7841168 - 01/06/08 08:17 PM (16 years, 26 days ago)

this thread is far gayer than any mushroom trip i or anyone have ever had. and iv had some flamers!
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Re: I thought you guys were joking when... [Re: LSDaytripper]
    #7842516 - 01/07/08 07:30 AM (16 years, 25 days ago)

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I've sort of felt that on acid, but it wasn't gayness, it was more of just love for everyone and everything in the world.



Ahahaha, who HASN'T felt that at some point in their life?


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    #7842929 - 01/07/08 10:15 AM (16 years, 25 days ago)

You have to find it on your own...there is no doubt in my mind that there is some form of female entity that comes with perturbing the tryptamine[& some Phenethylamine's; MDMA brings this out for me.] brain chemistry...


I can't even imagine being one of the first westerners to feel that experience....


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    #7842950 - 01/07/08 10:24 AM (16 years, 25 days ago)

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Nothing happened but if the other guy had been gay I don't know what would have happened to be honest. The entire night seems almost like a dream. It seemed as if my subconscious directed all my actions, as it does in your dreams. I didn't actually have the thought "I'm gay", it was more like a loss of sexuality as guruu said. I also tried to get on girls (unsuccessfully lol) and ended up pleasuring myself in front of them all.




You pleasured yourself in front of them.. meaning, you just whipped your dick out and started beating it?

I had an experience where my friend totally lost himself for a few hours, and he was running around with his pants around his ankles sticking water bottles up his ass, beating himself off in the freezing fuckin wind, trying to KISS ME - all while me and my other friend are freaking out, trying to bring him back to his senses. And... I think at one point he walked over to me (I was sitting down) while he was still in this fucking ego-loss state and grabbed me by my hair like you would a cheap whore (he started unzipping his pants).

I am not homophobic. I've gone through phases where I thought I might be gay, but I have come to the conclusion that the natural way (dick in vagina) wins it for me. But my friend was pretty much attacking me and my other friend with this random homosexual behavior -not violently, because he doesn't know how to fight and he was weakened by his inebriated state, but he was being very imposing and belligerent with it.. After he grabbed me by the hair I wasnt fucking taking it anymore - we wrestled across the whole farmhouse before I pushed him the hell off of me.

It was fucked up.

Worst trip of my life.

I don't hold it against him, but ever since then things between all ofu s haven't been the same. In fact, I don't even talk to him anymore, mainly because he doesn't like my fiance (and baby's mama). He's spoken so lowly of her, and of women in general (one of those guys who just needs to fuck something ALL THE TIME, yet calls a married man pussy-whipped) , that my respect for him has dwindled to nothing.

And if you don't like my girl, you don't like me. End of story.

BTW - He had taken a quarter of mushrooms and 2 fucking GREAT rolls, and then we took EIGHTEEN hits of acid, all within about 6 hours, so... it's no wonder that he lost himself, but his loss made me and the other friend unable to let go. We had to stay on a more sober level, to make sure he didn't kill himself. That's the real tragedy - it ruined the trip. :frown:


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Re: I thought you guys were joking when... [Re: manyc]
    #7843227 - 01/07/08 11:38 AM (16 years, 25 days ago)

To what extent is this gayness going to?  you just think a guy is hot, or you actually want to bite the pillow for him??

Ive never had any GAY thoughts or acted out anything on any of my mushroom trips.

I dont really know what to think about you guys that do become gay while tripping. :shrug:
you might be slightly gay, you might be gay all the way, who knows.

Like others have mentioned, i do feel loving towards everybody and im more open. ill tell a guy hes wearing a nice jacket because i like the jacket not because i like they way he fits into it. :smirk: hahh.


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Re: I thought you guys were joking when... [Re: thoughts]
    #7843372 - 01/07/08 12:31 PM (16 years, 25 days ago)

im cool with other dudes except when they try to make out with me or grab my cock and no amount of pychedelic drugs can change that.


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Re: I thought you guys were joking when... [Re: Sra_sephiroth0]
    #7846983 - 01/08/08 07:09 AM (16 years, 24 days ago)

Those of you that have been made uncomfortable, or looking at this with a closed mind, are in fact, either uncomfortable with your sexuality or just an unsociable, unaffectionate being in general. The ONLY reason, other than being born or bred unaffectionate for you to associate affection with sexuality (ie: 'being gay') is because you're mind's been trained to see it that way... most of this training is done subconsciously and mindlessly, and goes unnoticed... so I see you all right now (the uncomfortable ones) defending yourself, saying you're completely comfortable with your sexuality... the truth is, if you were truly comfortable, sexuality and affection would remain seperate... it's the same deal with nudism... I know plenty of guys (or girls) that think being around another person while naked (or everyone naked) is a sure sign of sexuality... many guys can't look at a nude girl without provoking sexual thoughts, and most guys can't look at a nude guy without provoking 'gay' thoughts. This all has to do with the notions society has ingrained you with... sexuality is sexuality, period... nothing else constitutes, neither affection nor nudity.


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Re: I thought you guys were joking when... [Re: emeryg89]
    #7846998 - 01/08/08 07:26 AM (16 years, 24 days ago)

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I think there's two factors going into play, both already stated... 1, the fact that affection is very desirable in the mindstate because of the 'connections' and whatnot, and 2, your ego is weakened enough so that normal social, self-constructed mindframes and stigmas begin to melt... you'd want to cuddle with all of your friends, gay, straight, or not, on a normal basis if you weren't used to putting on your egomask that society has trained us so well to do... Affections a completely natural thing, and has nothing, whatsoever to do with sexuality... if you associate the too, you're following 'societie's' rules... we're animals... let's just be happy with that.





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Re: I thought you guys were joking when... [Re: EllisDSox]
    #7847059 - 01/08/08 08:25 AM (16 years, 24 days ago)

lol. just thought i'd throw my own little anecdotes into this thread. glad to see it was finally made.

never had any actual intercourse imagery/desires/feelings, but my early trips i had difficulty separating my feelings and perceptions from the feelings and perceptions of people around me. so like i'll be around some people lets say a guy and his looks will start to change and he'll start looking all masculine and beautiful, then i suddenly snap out of it and realize that the girl next to me thoughts just invaded my mind for a minute.
it works in all directions, but at first i had no idea what was happening and had read all that shit about repressed feelings and memories and thought i was a latent gay who had somehow buried it so deep i didn't know i was i gay.
i remember i had one acid trip where i got really into the idea of repressed feelings and memories, and then one of those flashes of feminine thought hit me and i had to spend like an hour trying to logically figure out if i was a homosexual who had repressed it to the point of not knowing i was.

i eventually decided that if i enjoy having sex with women, and don't think about having sex with men, then by definition i must be heterosexual. although this is obvious, only by following the most twisted paths of personality and logic did i arrive at this understanding.


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Re: I thought you guys were joking when... [Re: emeryg89]
    #7847211 - 01/08/08 09:47 AM (16 years, 24 days ago)

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Those of you that have been made uncomfortable, or looking at this with a closed mind, are in fact, either uncomfortable with your sexuality or just an unsociable, unaffectionate being in general. The ONLY reason, other than being born or bred unaffectionate for you to associate affection with sexuality (ie: 'being gay') is because you're mind's been trained to see it that way... most of this training is done subconsciously and mindlessly, and goes unnoticed... so I see you all right now (the uncomfortable ones) defending yourself, saying you're completely comfortable with your sexuality... the truth is, if you were truly comfortable, sexuality and affection would remain seperate... it's the same deal with nudism... I know plenty of guys (or girls) that think being around another person while naked (or everyone naked) is a sure sign of sexuality... many guys can't look at a nude girl without provoking sexual thoughts, and most guys can't look at a nude guy without provoking 'gay' thoughts. This all has to do with the notions society has ingrained you with... sexuality is sexuality, period... nothing else constitutes, neither affection nor nudity.




well, there's a difference when you're around someone you know is gay and being uncomfortable, and being around someone you know isn't gay, and them suddenly becoming a raving, yelling, sexual, primal being- who is trying to push himself upon you. being uncomfortable, or threatened, in THAT situation, is natural if you ask me. there ain't no affection in attacking your friends - though through his tears and bellows, he would tell us that he loved us. but i think he loved us a little too much.

my friend -whom im speaking of- was imposing his repressed SEXUAL feelings onto me and another guy, and we were in a much clearer state of mind (mostly because we were trying to guide him back to sanity).

running around with your pants around your ankles beatin your meat and sticking water bottles and your $300 iPod up your ass... those actions are sexual to me.

trying to fit a square into a circle...



clothing, i believe, is the main thing to blame for all this sexual confusion in the world. anyone with me on that?


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Re: I thought you guys were joking when... [Re: manyc]
    #7847446 - 01/08/08 11:18 AM (16 years, 24 days ago)

Manyc, your concern I'm pretty sure, would be generally understood by most... that has nothing to do with affection in my opinion, and surely has little to do with your own sexuality/affection opinions. Anyone, forcing any unneccessary act upon anyone else is wrong... consent it key to all situations, even those regarding just mere hugs. Sorry you had to endure such an experience... sounds funny, but horrific at the same time.

I agree somewhat with the clothing theory... I don't agree it's the main thing to blame... modernized, masculine-mind, industrialist society is to blame... the clothing part, and many others, fall under that general heading.


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Re: I thought you guys were joking when... [Re: AlCapwn]
    #7854085 - 01/09/08 02:44 PM (16 years, 23 days ago)





A lot of straight guys get nervous where it comes to homosexual thoughts. It's mostly a cultural thing, to suppress that.

I believe no major human trait is alien to any of us, it's the things you develop in life and the things you leave dormant that sculpt the personality you are.

During a 2CB solo session I was suddenly struck by a rather vivid straight revelation. It startled me too, but it's really a matter of everything being present in everyone.

Psychedelics open your mind. Many a time you can be surprised at what you find. Making contact with the gay (or straight) side of you needs be no reason for concern. Explore this side of you and get to know yourself better. Its just one of the many amazing sights to see in the journey of the mind one can have with psychedelics.


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    #7854208 - 01/09/08 03:09 PM (16 years, 23 days ago)

if you actually get nervous about making contact with socially unacceptable parts of your mind then you should probably not be doing psychadelics in the first place because if your not even comfortable with your own ideas theres no telling how bad a trip could end up


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    #7854302 - 01/09/08 03:30 PM (16 years, 23 days ago)

I think you caught the



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