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wyldeman007
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An Infinitely Large Circle...
#7805643 - 12/27/07 09:33 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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After thinking it over I found in my thoughts, a circle with a diameter equall to infinity the circumference must also equall infinity, along with a curvature that is no more than a straight line. An infinitely large circle is according to mathematics in fact a straight line stretching from one end of the universe to the other. Pretty weird/cool huh?
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Re: An Infinitely Large Circle... [Re: wyldeman007]
#7805656 - 12/27/07 09:36 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Is it possible to have a circle at all if the diameter is infinite?
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wyldeman007
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Re: An Infinitely Large Circle... [Re: Leinahtan]
#7805664 - 12/27/07 09:38 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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I don't really know what do you think?
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Re: An Infinitely Large Circle... [Re: wyldeman007]
#7805671 - 12/27/07 09:39 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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I like to thing of the universe as an oscillating finite circle.
But yeah that was a pretty cool connection you made there, after reading the initial criteria of what you were talking about I said to myself "wouldn't that be a straight line".
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Re: An Infinitely Large Circle... [Re: wyldeman007]
#7805673 - 12/27/07 09:40 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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woah fucking deep man
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Re: An Infinitely Large Circle... [Re: Robo]
#7805695 - 12/27/07 09:50 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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As I read that post I pictured the scenario and I started feeling my mind expand.. thanks for that
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Nice one dude... thanks for giving me something to think about. I need to start thinking about stuff every day!
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Re: An Infinitely Large Circle... [Re: Siekoaktiv]
#7805710 - 12/27/07 09:55 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Quote:
Siekoaktiv said: I need to start thinking about stuff every day!
You're joking right
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Re: An Infinitely Large Circle... [Re: Robo]
#7805855 - 12/27/07 10:35 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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he doesn't want to just think, he wants to think.
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Re: An Infinitely Large Circle... [Re: AlteredAgain]
#7805939 - 12/27/07 10:52 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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I read it in a book of neat facts
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Re: An Infinitely Large Circle... [Re: wyldeman007]
#7805954 - 12/27/07 10:54 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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what is with you people and your circles? it amazes me...
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Re: An Infinitely Large Circle... [Re: Drewwyann]
#7805979 - 12/27/07 10:59 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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I want to meet the kid who sees a straight line and says "it's an infinite circle"
you could draw a "straight" line around the globe and it would end up being a circle... of course it's not really straight to begin with
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Re: An Infinitely Large Circle... [Re: boxcarguy07]
#7806341 - 12/28/07 01:03 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Sounds kinda small TBH.
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Re: An Infinitely Large Circle... [Re: wyldeman007]
#7806351 - 12/28/07 01:08 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Quote:
a circle with a diameter equall to infinity the circumference must also equall infinity
What the fuck?
No shit.
drrrrrrrrrr
X = π × diameter of X
PS
equall = equal
Fucking stoners.
My post probably doesn't make sense eiter, so whatever.
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Re: An Infinitely Large Circle... [Re: boxcarguy07]
#7806371 - 12/28/07 01:22 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Quote:
boxcarguy07 said: you could draw a "straight" line around the globe and it would end up being a circle... of course it's not really straight to begin with
Interesting.
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Re: An Infinitely Large Circle... [Re: wyldeman007]
#7806597 - 12/28/07 04:51 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Quote:
wyldeman007 said: After thinking it over I found in my thoughts, a circle with a diameter equall to infinity the circumference must also equall infinity, along with a curvature that is no more than a straight line. An infinitely large circle is according to mathematics in fact a straight line stretching from one end of the universe to the other. Pretty weird/cool huh?
wow, you're baked
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Re: An Infinitely Large Circle... [Re: Konnrade]
#7807024 - 12/28/07 10:19 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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The only reason this is so interesting is because, perfect circles by definition simply cannot exist in nature. Either can straight lines, and having infinity of something is impossible under the speed of light. When you mix math and nature the wrong way, weird things tend to happen...
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Re: An Infinitely Large Circle... [Re: wyldeman007]
#7807067 - 12/28/07 10:38 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Infinity isn't a number, it's a concept. This is why in limits,the limit of 3/infinity is 0. So C = (pi)(infinity) is really simplified and C=/infinity.
what would be true is the Lim C, as D ->infinity C=(pi)D. This is read as the limit of C as D approaches infinity Circumference equals pi times diamater. The solution of this is not c = infinity but the limit of C as D approaches infinity is infinity. Lim c = infinity does not imply c = infinity. Again, infinity is not a number so c = infinity cannot be true.
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Re: An Infinitely Large Circle... [Re: YidakiMan]
#7807082 - 12/28/07 10:45 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Well, then, oh Math God YidakiMan (It is not sarcastic, I suck at math, and you seem awesome, thus the outlandish compliment:-)
Is 1 a concept? Or is it both a concept AND a Number ( A number because it is managable in the general layers of consensus reality?
Is 0 (nothing) a concept? or both a number and concept?
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Re: An Infinitely Large Circle... [Re: Apollyphelion]
#7807123 - 12/28/07 11:05 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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0 is a placeholder, it represents nothing which is the absence of anything. The null set does not = zero because it contains itself.
As far as 1, you're getting into the basic axioms of logic, which I am not familiar. There is a book called Principia Mathematica, it attempts to define mathemetics with basic axioms and principles of symbolic logic. In this book, the authors attempted to define real numbers with those logical rules. My symbolic logic professor told us it took several hundred pages to prove that 1+1=2. Here is the end of that proof http://quod.lib.umich.edu/cgi/t/text/pageviewer-idx?c=umhistmath&cc=umhistmath&idno=aat3201.0001.001&frm=frameset&view=image&seq=401
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