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raceandsmoke
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Fully col should i birth
#7804428 - 12/27/07 03:28 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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hey guys 4 of my 8 jars are colonized bottom and all, should i birth into the fruitin chamber or should i wait till i get pins in the jars thanks heres a pic the black lines are just so i can measure growth
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shroomials
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Re: Fully col should i birth [Re: raceandsmoke]
#7804441 - 12/27/07 03:35 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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dude no take them out now an dunk an roll them. That is take the fully colinized onesout put them in water in a pot put a plate over them an let them soak for 12 to 24 hours an then take them out and kinda dry them a little with a paper towel. then roll them in dry verm. then throw them in the fruting CHAMBER!!!!@@@@@!!
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primal21
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Re: Fully col should i birth [Re: shroomials]
#7804450 - 12/27/07 03:37 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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birth those puppies
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chucklehead
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Re: Fully col should i birth [Re: primal21]
#7804490 - 12/27/07 03:55 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Depends how long they have been fully colonized. Did they just get there today or have they been 100% for a few days to a week? You don't have to wait for pins but it sure does help to give it 4-7 days after 100% colonization. A lot of times the center of your cake isn't colonized even though the outside is. Those long jelly jars tend to colonize the center a little faster than do the wide mouth half pints. I'd say you'd probably be ok to birth them now but if it was me I'd wait a few days.
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raceandsmoke
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Re: Fully col should i birth [Re: primal21]
#7804503 - 12/27/07 04:00 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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thanks ya i am goin to dunk and roll but i guess the refer made me forget to mention it lol
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RogerRabbit
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Re: Fully col should i birth [Re: raceandsmoke]
#7804520 - 12/27/07 04:04 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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You should wait one week after full colonization before birthing. Do a dunk and roll, but roll in dry verm when the cake is dripping wet. Don't dry it off first as suggested above. The water is what makes the verm stick. You can just wait until the others have been ready for a week if you wanted to birth all the cakes at once. It's up to you. RR
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Re: Fully col should i birth [Re: chucklehead]
#7804525 - 12/27/07 04:05 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Wait 7 days after full colonization, then dunk and roll.
Quote:
RogerRabbit said: The reason for waiting a week after full colonization is to allow the mycelium to consolidate its hold on the substrate. Until the mycelium digests some of the substrate it has colonized, it will not fruit. If you birth the day of full colonization, the week spent consolidating the hold, will be a week spent drying out the cake, thus making pinning harder and yields weak. If you wait a week after full colonization, pins often form within 48 hours of birthing/dunk and roll.
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/7757510
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shaggydogman
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Re: Fully col should i birth [Re: shaggydogman]
#7804532 - 12/27/07 04:07 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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whhoooooo
How did you do that!!!! lol. I thought of something you said and you appeared!!!!!
spooooky....
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RogerRabbit
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Re: Fully col should i birth [Re: shaggydogman]
#7804554 - 12/27/07 04:13 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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I read your mind. I think you forgot to wear your tinfoil hat while typing. RR
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raceandsmoke
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Re: Fully col should i birth [Re: RogerRabbit]
#7804590 - 12/27/07 04:26 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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ya ill end up waitin another week, but how do you guys feel on the poor mans chamber i built one of those with lava rock for my chamber. the humidty gets up to 100% is that to high?
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shaggydogman
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Re: Fully col should i birth [Re: RogerRabbit]
#7804591 - 12/27/07 04:27 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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haha, I haven't got one
yet........... 
I think I might have to go for one of these... yeah, gonna make me one of them for this interweb thingy...
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chucklehead
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Re: Fully col should i birth [Re: RogerRabbit]
#7804592 - 12/27/07 04:27 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Good thing I never take mine off. Sure my hair is disgusting but at least the aliens like RR can't read my brain. That's right RR I know what you are. Did you think no one would recognize you? You Zarmorhtian fiend! Don't be fooled kids. (You can see in some of his recent post where he compares mushrooms to humans, much the way an outside observer might. An outside observer that ISN'T HUMAN.) So be warned! He'll suck you in with his well made, and educational videos. (Which if you had watched them you would know darn well you should wait a few days after 100% colonization.) Then he will slip in subliminal messages that make you want to... to... well do something that you don't realize you are doing. All of this in an effort to get us to grow more mushrooms so the planet earth is terraformed to the point that it is habitable for his Zarmorthian brothers. Yes that's right. That's invasion time. So beware.
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shaggydogman
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Re: Fully col should i birth [Re: chucklehead]
#7804621 - 12/27/07 04:36 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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shroomials
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Re: Fully col should i birth [Re: chucklehead]
#7804662 - 12/27/07 04:49 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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you right all those lets grow mushrooms vids on youtube from RR. Omg hes planet zamorithians Head mushrooms teacher he teaches us so we can grow them then all his zamorithian people will come down apon us with great vengance feeding apon our great mushrooms an our fonderous brains.?????
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shaggydogman
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Re: Fully col should i birth [Re: raceandsmoke]
#7804684 - 12/27/07 04:56 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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100% humidity is great. I've not used a PMP so I can't really comment much further on them. I have heard concerns raised about standing water raising the risk of contamination.
100% humidity with plenty of fresh air exchange (FAE) is the ideal.
Personlly I use one of RR's 'shotgun' terrariums (link in my sig) that uses perlite for humidity and it works well.
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Edited by shaggydogman (12/27/07 05:00 PM)
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