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Re: What is the greatest album ever made? [Re: mentalIMAGE]
    #7820703 - 01/01/08 04:44 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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Everyone seems to pick Dark Side of the Moon, but that's not even my favorite Floyd album. I like Wish You Were Here and The Wall better. Maybe it's just because I've heard Dark Side of the Moon so many times.




As I said it's not my favourite, but it's probably the most amazing album I've ever heard, I reckon I've heard it more than 1000 times. Still, I'd take Animals over TDSOTM almost anyday.




Truth, plain and simple.




Bold, edgy, bitter and straight to the point. Awesomeness!

And that bridge in P3DO... wow. All hail Animals!



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Re: What is the greatest album ever made? [Re: Colonel Kurtz Ph.D]
    #7820789 - 01/01/08 05:09 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

The Cure - Disintegration

Type O Negative - October Rust

Tool - Lateralus


these are three albums that I love to listen to start to finish and I feel they tell an abstract story, so they are the best albums ever made IMO.


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Re: What is the greatest album ever made? [Re: Afroshroomerican]
    #7821509 - 01/01/08 08:18 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Well, what characteristics/attributes are we looking for? What qualities should 'the greatest album ever made' have? I'll have to say it's probably something by The Beatles or Frank Zappa. Although, it would have to be an album that transcends all genres and that's not something that either of those artists have effectively done. However, I'd say my favorite album ever made is We Sold Our Soul For Rock 'n' Roll by Black Sabbath.


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Re: What is the greatest album ever made? [Re: Boots]
    #7821933 - 01/01/08 10:24 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)



lots of great ones have already been mentioned, thought I'd throw this out there if no ones said it.

might not exactly be the greatest album but echoes is great


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Re: What is the greatest album ever made? [Re: Robo]
    #7821948 - 01/01/08 10:35 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Echoes is definitely up there


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Re: What is the greatest album ever made? [Re: Genesis]
    #7822000 - 01/01/08 10:53 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

1 Evil Empire by Rage Against The Machine.
2 Check Your Head by The Beastie Boy.
3 White Pepper by WEEN.

Relics by Pink Floyd was on top for a while.


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Re: What is the greatest album ever made? [Re: marz13]
    #7822053 - 01/01/08 11:14 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: What is the greatest album ever made? [Re: WhiskeyClone]
    #7822199 - 01/02/08 12:14 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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There is a ton of good music these days; music is more diverse than it's ever been, but you'd never know it if you're trying to find it on mainstream radio.




This I would have to second. It seems pop songs these days and mindless trash, as I said before. I may have been a little to quick to say that all new music is meaningless tripe, a lot of it is, but there are still modern artists who are amazing. Another thing WhiskeyClone said was music is much more diverse these days than it ever has been, also I agree. But I think its been taken a little two far. Metal alone have like 4 billion sub-genres, from Grind-core to math-core, thrash, hair metal and any combination of two or more styles (Ghetto-trashgrindcore). Its stupid.

Rob Zombie - Hellbilly Delux, lol!


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Re: What is the greatest album ever made? [Re: zappaisgod]
    #7826160 - 01/03/08 01:07 AM (16 years, 30 days ago)
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Supper's Ready is magnificent but side two drops off after Get 'em Out By Friday.




Watchu mean man, side 2 is Supper's Ready, all 23 minutes of it. I would probably go with 'Selling England' for best Genesis album as well if it weren't for Supper's Ready which somehow crept up on me and became one of my favorite songs of all time even though I was less than impressed after the first 6 or 8 listens.

Can Utility and the Coastliners plays after Get 'em Out by Friday along with Horizons(which is practically an intro for Supper's Ready). Are you saying you don't like Coastliners because I think it's one of the best, not to mention most concise, songs in the Genesis catalog. Listen again if you forgot how damn good it is:


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Re: What is the greatest album ever made? [Re: Genesis]
    #7826527 - 01/03/08 06:51 AM (16 years, 29 days ago)

Ok I'm gonna say it, Sea Change by beck is probably my all-time favourite album. There I said it.



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Re: What is the greatest album ever made? [Re: Colonel Kurtz Ph.D]
    #7826746 - 01/03/08 09:25 AM (16 years, 29 days ago)

At this moment in time, for me, the greatest album ever made is

Blood on the Tracks - Bob Dylan


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Re: What is the greatest album ever made? [Re: Genesis]
    #7827141 - 01/03/08 11:58 AM (16 years, 29 days ago)

John Coltrane - A Love Supreme deserves a mention in my mind.


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Re: What is the greatest album ever made? [Re: jewunit]
    #7827169 - 01/03/08 12:05 PM (16 years, 29 days ago)

I have to throw out Sigur Ros' untitled album as well.


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Re: What is the greatest album ever made? [Re: Viveka]
    #7827380 - 01/03/08 01:01 PM (16 years, 29 days ago)

I should have just said "the Other Side". Clearly side One for me is Supper's Ready. I haven't played the Get 'em Out By Friday side in years. Part of the problem is the Watcher of the Skies version on that album. The live version is so much better. I'll give it another shot but it's not likely to replace Selling England since I played both of them through to the other side. We've had similar musical convergences before, haven't we?


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Re: What is the greatest album ever made? [Re: wilshire]
    #7827420 - 01/03/08 01:14 PM (16 years, 29 days ago)

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i nominate pet sounds, abbey road and any of the velvet underground's studio albums except squeeze as contenders. i never really got into any pink floyd album other than piper at the gates of dawn. there is no way, in my opinion, that dark side of the moon is even close to the best album ever. it's maybe in the top 50, if that.




if there was a serious debate involving certain aspects of the progression of music, impact, etc.... then Pet Sounds would probably be #1.

but if I were stranded on an island with only one cd, I would pick...



Disco Volante by Mr. Bungle.
such an epic journey of exploration that utilizes almost every genre of music while managing to be one of the only truly original albums in the last 20 years.
everything John Zorn touches turns to gold.


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Re: What is the greatest album ever made? [Re: SneezingPenis]
    #7827557 - 01/03/08 01:48 PM (16 years, 29 days ago)

Amazingly enough an album no one has ever heard of and even fewer people bought. I would think Greatest entails some kind of consideration for general popularity. Otherwise it would just be Favorite.


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Re: What is the greatest album ever made? [Re: zappaisgod]
    #7827839 - 01/03/08 02:56 PM (16 years, 29 days ago)

that is why I prefaced it with a situation that denoted a personal preference.
But I dont think popularity should have any sway with what would be considered the greatest album of all time.
If this were the case then elvis presley, garth brooks and mikey jackson would be the top 3 greatest artists of all time. The backstreet boys would be considered "greater" than zappa because of popularity.
if anything, only concept/themed albums should be in the running, because it is an entire work of art, rather than a conglomeration of random focus-group-passed songs that have nothing to do with each other.


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Re: What is the greatest album ever made? [Re: SneezingPenis]
    #7827908 - 01/03/08 03:09 PM (16 years, 29 days ago)

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that is why I prefaced it with a situation that denoted a personal preference.
But I dont think popularity should have any sway with what would be considered the greatest album of all time.




I kind of think it really has to. Otherwise, like I said, it's just favorite.
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If this were the case then elvis presley, garth brooks and mikey jackson would be the top 3 greatest artists of all time. The backstreet boys would be considered "greater" than zappa because of popularity.




I understand and am clearly not making the case for a strictly popular consideration. Artistic value and influence are also factors. I'm trying to do a balancing act here.
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if anything, only concept/themed albums should be in the running, because it is an entire work of art, rather than a conglomeration of random focus-group-passed songs that have nothing to do with each other.




Unless they are each and every one a masterpiece. I do understand that criteria as well. For that reason, The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway was among my finalists. But it really is too limiting, in my opinion. There aren't that many.


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Re: What is the greatest album ever made? [Re: zappaisgod]
    #7827958 - 01/03/08 03:23 PM (16 years, 29 days ago)

your average music listener is a dumbass that has zero understanding of how to even go about appreciating real music.
everyone thinks that they have good taste in music, but very few people actually do.... oddly enough, very many people are willing to admit that they dont know dick about visual art (paintings/sculptures), or at best will say "ohh Dali, Vincent, Michealangelo" or some shit like that and reveal themselves for the sophomoric comprehension/exposure they have had to such art.
If we were to make a thread about the greatest painting of all time, we would get a lot of Dali's, Alex Gray (or is it grey?), and MC escher's nominated.... which is kind of like the equivalent to nominating Britany spears, justin Timberlake and Tupac in this thread.


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Re: What is the greatest album ever made? [Re: SneezingPenis]
    #7828517 - 01/03/08 05:51 PM (16 years, 29 days ago)

I don't agree and when you say something like that about rock and roll you just sound like a pompous windbag. It is a visceral medium, accessible to all through their genitals, with a modicum of cerebral appreciation as a possible, but not essential, bonus. First and foremost, it has to make you want to move. Take a clue from Matthew Barney and Put a Sock in It.


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