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Cracka_X
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#7802875 - 12/27/07 03:34 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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am an intelligent fluke.
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What is a fluke?
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Re: I... [Re: Lion]
#7803243 - 12/27/07 08:47 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Lion said: What is a fluke?
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It's a multimeter
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Icelander
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intelligent by who's standards?
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Cracka_X
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fluke, as in sheer luck/coincidence
intelligent by umm.... on a scale measuring how well I process and organize information from the writers/creators of psychological tests. I guess.
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at least someone is guessing, I haven't learned such a feature of consciousness yet
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Cracka_X said: intelligent by umm.... on a scale measuring how well I process and organize information from the writers/creators of psychological tests. I guess.
I thought they determined you were retarded. Or was that thread a joke?
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haha, yeah well, in seriousness, the test showed that my short-term memory and mental arithmetic are well below average, which is what prompted me to make the post claiming my retardation. Everything else was above avg. but the working memory super pathetic terrible.
The psychologist told me to work on reinforcing my memory and staying away from things that could impair it like smoking pot. Then we both started laughing and fell on the floor with joy.
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Icelander
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Cracka_X said: fluke, as in sheer luck/coincidence
intelligent by umm.... on a scale measuring how well I process and organize information from the writers/creators of psychological tests. I guess.
Well IMO if you was really intelligent then you wouldn't be making your first statement here. As there is no way to know whether you is a fluke or by design.
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Cracka_X
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well if you have the slightest belief in evolution then I think you'd agree that we're all intelligent flukes. If not then I'd love to hear an explanation deeper than something like "To say you know means you really don't."
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Icelander
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If our intelligence is a result of evolution then it is not a fluke but an adaptation due to stresses incurred within the environment.
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Cracka_X
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but those adaptations aren't due to our bodies making intelligent decisions as opposed to random mutations, which are encouraged by stresses in the environment, which leads to the dominant of these random mutations or flukes to be dominant.
The giraffe didn't grow its neck bc it couldn't reach the food as opposed to the giraffe with the longer neck being able to reaching the food and surviving by the chance being born like that.
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Icelander
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As I said the intelligent person can lean toward evolution but in no way can state that they know that there isn't some conscious design behind it. We just cannot know that. So again you can only guess that your intelligence is a fluke.
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You could make this argument agree or disagree depending on how one wants to look at it. So let me give my bias example.
Say there's a population that lives on a peninsula and they range from a variety of heights. An earthquake makes it a peninsula with food that only certain people can reach by either their natural height or cleverness. blablabla, people watch out for #1 and the people that can't figure it out or are insignificant to the environment die out. survival of the fittest and then those genes are more dominant and so on.
sorry about the redundancy, and to answer you...
You're right it's all just a bunch of guessing. To me, though, the guessing is like a picture sequence with a few pictures missing in between here and there. There is a correlation but not quite the correlation where everyone would say "that's it!" So it's only a theory, just like intelligent design is a theory.
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Icelander
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You're right it's all just a bunch of guessing. To me, though, the guessing is like a picture sequence with a few pictures missing in between here and there. There is a correlation but not quite the correlation where everyone would say "that's it!" So it's only a theory, just like intelligent design is a theory.
End of story.;)
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