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OfflineYoungGrasshopper
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Cold shocking cakes?
    #7802025 - 12/26/07 08:53 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Iv'e heard many things about cold shocking brf cakes.
Many different views.
Is cold shocking psilocybe cubensis cambodian cakes beneficial or a waste of time?
I have heard about taking the jars out, putting them in a pot of cold water...and then putting them in the fridge for 12 hrs. Is this ok for the cakes?


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Re: Cold shocking cakes? [Re: YoungGrasshopper]
    #7802055 - 12/26/07 09:02 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

You can dunk your cakes and see good results. Especially if you then roll those cakes in dry vermiculite. Search "Dunk and Roll" and see the bajillions of threads on this.

Cold shocking is ineffective on cubes. However, the fridge is a good place to keep your soaking cakes.


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Re: Cold shocking cakes? [Re: YoungGrasshopper]
    #7802057 - 12/26/07 09:03 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

ya do it.. why not it helps initiate pinning.

i've had success doing it..

also the dunking helps rehydrate the cake..

since shrooms are 90% water they need all the hydration they can get.


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Re: Cold shocking cakes? [Re: im_on_a_boat]
    #7802077 - 12/26/07 09:12 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Read these.

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RogerRabbit and Hyphae have differing opinions on this one. I tend to agree with RR, only because his semantics are in order. Dunk your cakes in the fridge and you can't go wrong.


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Re: Cold shocking cakes? [Re: im_on_a_boat]
    #7802582 - 12/27/07 12:14 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

drkrobotnik said:
ya do it.. why not it helps initiate pinning.

i've had success doing it..

also the dunking helps rehydrate the cake..

since shrooms are 90% water they need all the hydration they can get.




It has been established that cubensis, as a tropical species, does not benefit from cold shocking.


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Re: Cold shocking cakes? [Re: Nibin]
    #7802678 - 12/27/07 01:38 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Dunking in the fridge only slows things down, but i understand why some recomend it, bacteria loves to grow in water, and while the Mycelium is under water it will have a hard to fighting.

Personaly i have had no problems just dunking in a pot of tap water with the lid on, in a cool dry cover, but i have only dunked maybe 3 or 4 times.

I may start dunking in the fridge before my luck runs out. I would much rather inhibit fruiting by a day or 2 than end up with a set of cakes with a bacterial contamination.


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Re: Cold shocking cakes? [Re: veda_sticks]
    #7803154 - 12/27/07 08:03 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Bacteria is rarely a problem with fully colonized cakes. However, if it's mid-summer and you don't have AC in your house, it's probably a good idea to dunk in the refrigerator, because warm, still water with organic materials within is an excellent breeding ground for bacteria.

Cold shocking is to simulate fall weather conditions and is used to initiate pinning on cold weather species such as Shiitake. With cold shocking, you want to lower the substrate temperature for a week or more to ten to fifteen degrees lower than optimum fruiting temperature, and then warm the substrate back up to fruiting temperatures when placed into the grow area. Cubensis will not benefit from such procedure.
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