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Why do people persecute the Jews?
#7802003 - 12/26/07 08:42 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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i've always had friends call other friends "a Jew" or "Jewish" as an insult but i never understood why. they never called them "christains" or "mormons" as insults.
why would people today be against Jews? i never even see them.
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Re: Why do people persecute the Jews? [Re: LayYouIn]
#7802007 - 12/26/07 08:44 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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You mean they interchange Jew with asshole or fuckwad or something? Or they call someone a Jew when they exhibit small signs of stereotypical Jewish behavior?
I can see being called a Jew because you won't throw in 5$ for a sack or something like that, but if it's being used as a non-specific insult then that's just pretty stupid.
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Re: Why do people persecute the Jews? [Re: LayYouIn]
#7802009 - 12/26/07 08:47 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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just because. I can't really explain why.
I stopped calling people jews for fun at the end of 8th grade I believe. After that it got sort of stupid.
People aren't actually against jews when they say that. It's most likely purely sarcastic. Unless you have some nazi friends?
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Re: Why do people persecute the Jews? [Re: LayYouIn]
#7802012 - 12/26/07 08:48 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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"Jew" as an insult is generally used to mean "stingy," as Jews are generally conceived as being very tight with money. I only use it in that sense with a Jewish friend of mine, because he knows I don't take that stereotype seriously, even though he fits it pretty well.
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Re: Why do people persecute the Jews? [Re: Silversoul]
#7802019 - 12/26/07 08:52 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Silversoul said: "Jew" as an insult is generally used to mean "stingy," as Jews are generally conceived as being very tight with money. I only use it in that sense with a Jewish friend of mine, because he knows I don't take that stereotype seriously, even though he fits it pretty well.
ohhh, that's why they called him a jew, lol.
why are Jews generally conceived as being very tight with money?
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Re: Why do people persecute the Jews? [Re: LayYouIn]
#7802030 - 12/26/07 08:54 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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I think a lot of the Jewish stereotypes come from the Rothschild family in Europe, and their banking dynasty.
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Re: Why do people persecute the Jews? [Re: LayYouIn]
#7802033 - 12/26/07 08:55 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Because they are, wow you really don't know any do you?
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Re: Why do people persecute the Jews? [Re: LayYouIn]
#7802034 - 12/26/07 08:55 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Cuz we all know how fun old fashion persecution is, and a nice crucification once in a while to lighten the mood. 
Seriously tho, it is a very fucked up and highly debated topic. A nation is never truly a nation until it has a common enemy. This unites the people towards a common goal. When a person goes looking for a scapegoat, a Jew would be an obvious choice. Mainly because their beliefs are much different than most. Not to mention the fact that, they are usually very successful. In groups or individual.
This makes them perfect targets. Unfortunatly.
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Re: Why do people persecute the Jews? [Re: LayYouIn]
#7802044 - 12/26/07 08:56 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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I think I have a more clear idea of why the Palestinians hate the Jews.
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Re: Why do people persecute the Jews? [Re: 2FiNiTe]
#7802049 - 12/26/07 08:59 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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2FiNiTe said: Not to mention the fact that, they are usually very successful.
i've heard this before, why is it?
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Re: Why do people persecute the Jews? [Re: Silversoul]
#7802051 - 12/26/07 09:00 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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^^^^ I really don't know, I guess because their religion supports prosperity. They like to spread the prosperity and usually keep it in the family. Just like anyone else would, only with Jews theres just a shitload of really really successful Jews. More so than most races idk why.
The Palestinians want a home, just like the Jews did. The Jews got what they wanted, the Palestinians didn't.
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Re: Why do people persecute the Jews? [Re: Silversoul]
#7802058 - 12/26/07 09:04 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Silversoul said: "Jew" as an insult is generally used to mean "stingy," as Jews are generally conceived as being very tight with money. I only use it in that sense with a Jewish friend of mine, because he knows I don't take that stereotype seriously, even though he fits it pretty well.
I have a Jewish friend and he is totally stingy as well. We can be out at dinner and there's three of us and the bill comes to $30 and I say, "Let's just all throw $10 down and a few bucks for the tip". But, he insists on counting things down to the last penny and it's simultaneously hilarious and annoying.
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Re: Why do people persecute the Jews? [Re: 2FiNiTe]
#7802067 - 12/26/07 09:08 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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I remember hearing that a particular branch of Jews from a specific region has significantly above-average IQ's in comparison to other ethnic groups. Maybe this has something to do with it?
The Jews that I've come into contact with seem to fall into one of following two categories:
1. Totally friendly and cool people.
2. Clannish, weird, and annoying.
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Re: Why do people persecute the Jews? [Re: 2FiNiTe]
#7802114 - 12/26/07 09:31 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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2FiNiTe said: Just like anyone else would, only with Jews theres just a shitload of really really successful Jews. More so than most races idk why.
I don't know about that, there are a lot of poor Jews in the US, in Israel, and in Russia. Most Jews are not successful, just like any other race. I don't have any numbers on how many Jews are successful either, so I wouldn't try to figure it out anyway.
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Re: Why do people persecute the Jews? [Re: fapjack]
#7802169 - 12/26/07 09:52 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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I don't know.
I always thought people didn't like Jews because,
A) They killed Jesus. B) They require their own country.
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Re: Why do people persecute the Jews? [Re: kidaihuan]
#7802207 - 12/26/07 10:01 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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what a dumb question.
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Re: Why do people persecute the Jews? [Re: Bridgeburner]
#7802216 - 12/26/07 10:04 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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I've had a few Jew friends. None of them seemed really stingy at all.
I DID have one Jew boss once who was an asshole (and an accountant... go figure) but I've had a lot of non-jewish bosses who acted the same so it's not like I can really say shit. That boss was the closesy to living the Jewish culture than any and even HE wasn't THAT stingly.
This is one stereotype that I find unfounded... altought I will crack a Jew joke now and then. For instance my family and I were playing monopoly this week and instead of asking "So who's the banker" I said.. "Ok.. who's the jew?" ...
I didn't think it was THAT derogatory because it was just associating jews with being accountants. And if you think about it... the % of jews in the lawyer/acocuntant community IS pretty HUGE compared to all other industries. THAT is probably one stereotype that IS somewhat true and really.... not really derogatory as there isn't anything wrong with being a lawyer or an accountant.
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Re: Why do people persecute the Jews? [Re: kidaihuan]
#7802221 - 12/26/07 10:06 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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The Romans killed Jesus, its deeper than that. Biggest complaint I have is Jewish people complaining about the holocaust. The Japanese killed more Chinese during that time, the Germans killed more Russians. Everyone got fucked over its time to move on. That and I also strongly dislike the Israeli lobbies and ADL.
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Re: Why do people persecute the Jews? [Re: LayYouIn]
#7802604 - 12/27/07 12:34 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Re: Why do people persecute the Jews? [Re: Bridgeburner]
#7805196 - 12/27/07 07:43 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Re: Why do people persecute the Jews? [Re: LayYouIn]
#7805324 - 12/27/07 08:07 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Because we are good with money and science. People are jealous fags.
Yes I love money, I count everything out, I always look for good deals, always read through my bank and credit card statements to make sure there aren't any discrepancies.
The same reason a poor person might hate and despise rich people. It comes with the territory.
Then you have the moron Christians that hate us because we killed Jesus. Jesus was a Jew and he technically had to be killed because otherwise he would have never died for people's sins. Stupid fucking christian faggots. I ain't even a religious Jew, just ethnic.
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Re: Why do people persecute the Jews? [Re: downforpot]
#7805397 - 12/27/07 08:25 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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After watching the movie "The Believer" sometime ago I had a much clearer grasp of hatred for jews.
For those who care not to follow the link, the movie is based on the true story of a jewish skinhead.
One of the lines that really grabbed me was his explanation of how the jews are nomadic. Always traveling into Your town and taking Your business.
Please do not take any of the above as signifying any hatred coming from me. I don't have any basis whatsoever of disliking jews. I've always been rather fascinated by them myself.
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Re: Why do people persecute the Jews? [Re: downforpot]
#7805411 - 12/27/07 08:29 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Thomas Sowell has an interesting theory on this:
"In any given country, a particular minority may be hated for any of a number of reasons peculiar to that country or that group. However, in a worldwide perspective, the most hated kinds of minorities are often not defined by race, color, religion, or national origin. Often they are generically "middleman minorities," who can be of any racial or ethnic background, and in fact are of many. Many of the historic outbreaks of inter-ethnic mob violence on a massive scale have been against the Jews in Europe, the Chinese minorities in various Southeast Asian countries, against the Armenians in the Ottoman Empire, the Ibos in Nigeria, and against other middleman minorities in other times and places."
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Re: Why do people persecute the Jews? [Re: kidaihuan]
#7805433 - 12/27/07 08:36 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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kidaihuan said: I don't know.
I always thought people didn't like Jews because,
A) They killed Jesus. B) They require their own country.
... Christianity and its various sects requires every country so what the fuck are you talking about?
I recall that people hated jews because in Germany they were smart with money and didn't trust the banks, as well as helped each other out so when their depression hit the jews weren't hit as hard so people got pissed at them about it.
I had a friend tell me this reason once "Jews are Gods chosen people, so everyone else is just jealous"
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Re: Why do people persecute the Jews? [Re: learningtofly]
#7805459 - 12/27/07 08:44 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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That arrogant type of attitude towards Goyim isn't winning the Jews any friends. Its a stupid belief system just like every other retarded mainstream religion.
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Well no shit everyone in Southeast Asia (and now even central Asia) hates the Han Chinese immigrants. You would too if over the period of 20 years you suddenly went from the large majority of a country to the minority. In places like Nepal and Bhutan were trying to seclude themselves from the modernizing world when all of a sudden... BAM millions of Han Chinese immigrants come and set up in their country and start to take over the economy. Now they're doing it everywhere else, I'd be pissed too!
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Re: Why do people persecute the Jews? [Re: downforpot]
#7805613 - 12/27/07 09:24 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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fapjack said: That arrogant type of attitude towards Goyim isn't winning the Jews any friends. Its a stupid belief system just like every other retarded mainstream religion.
Dumbass' like this don't help either.
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downforpot said: Because we are good with money and science. People are jealous fags.
Then you have the moron Christians that hate us because we killed Jesus. Jesus was a Jew and he technically had to be killed because otherwise he would have never died for people's sins. Stupid fucking christian faggots. I ain't even a religious Jew, just ethnic.
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Re: Why do people persecute the Jews? [Re: LayYouIn]
#7805715 - 12/27/07 09:56 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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They are a minority group and easily identifiable.
90% of people on this planet function as animals and animals identify and harass members which are different. It has a biological basis in that it helps weed out certain unproven genetic mutations. It terms of humanity it is well..evil.
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Re: Why do people persecute the Jews? [Re: 2FiNiTe]
#7805721 - 12/27/07 09:58 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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How am I dumbass, prove it.
I don't pay a dime for college, went to a private college prep school, read the Bible, Quran, know my history.
You are a fucking moron.
Oh and we are good with money and science. Why do you think Jews have the most nobel prizes. Jealous? Suck my balls bitch. Truth hurts, doesn't it? LOL
I'm such a nerd I read biology and chemistry textbooks while high, drunk, on perks, etc. yes, call me a nerd, don't give a fuck. I love science. And money, yess, GREEN = OWNZ
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fapjack said: That arrogant type of attitude towards Goyim isn't winning the Jews any friends. Its a stupid belief system just like every other retarded mainstream religion.
You're a moron if you think it's all belief.
I know tons of Jews that don't give a fuck about religion. I hate religion too. Fact still stands: Jews are good with money and science. Prove me wrong bitch.
Wtf do you expect smart people to do? Act like they don't know anything? Should they purposefully fail at everything they do so that other people would feel good about themselves?
Sorry but if some1 is a moron I will point it out to them. I can't lie.
It's called culture, dumb fuck. Jews have been good with this shit for a long time. You can do it too if you want but don't bitch when others are better than you.
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Re: Why do people persecute the Jews? [Re: downforpot]
#7805737 - 12/27/07 10:04 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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i wouldnt call jews easily identifiable. They just a bunch of fucking gringos that look like all other gringos.
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Re: Why do people persecute the Jews? [Re: BrAiN]
#7805742 - 12/27/07 10:05 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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lol.
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Re: Why do people persecute the Jews? [Re: downforpot]
#7805774 - 12/27/07 10:13 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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1/10. You are going to have to try a lot harder than that to troll me.
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Re: Why do people persecute the Jews? [Re: fapjack]
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How did I troll you? I stated some facts. You have shown that you are an uneducated piece of shit that doesn't know anything.
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Re: Why do people persecute the Jews? [Re: downforpot]
#7805815 - 12/27/07 10:26 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Facts? Thats funny, most of the comments that you made are opinions not facts, and I already knew that not all Jews practice Judaism, and not all people that practice Judaism are Jewish Semites. I still think you are trolling, but not everyone here knows this so I figured I'd respond. Your opinions are just that, and I could give 2 shits less what you think about my intelligence level.
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Re: Why do people persecute the Jews? [Re: BrAiN]
#7805823 - 12/27/07 10:29 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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BrAiN said: i wouldnt call jews easily identifiable. They just a bunch of fucking gringos that look like all other gringos.
Sure they are, just watch any popular sitcom, or look up the head of any major bank or TV network
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Re: Why do people persecute the Jews? [Re: learningtofly]
#7805838 - 12/27/07 10:31 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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learningtofly said: I had a friend tell me this reason once "Jews are Gods chosen people, so everyone else is just jealous"
i've heard this too, but what does it mean that they are Gods chosen people?
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Re: Why do people persecute the Jews? [Re: fapjack]
#7805850 - 12/27/07 10:34 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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fapjack said: Facts? Thats funny, most of the comments that you made are opinions not facts, and I already knew that not all Jews practice Judaism, and not all people that practice Judaism are Jewish Semites. I still think you are trolling, but not everyone here knows this so I figured I'd respond. Your opinions are just that, and I could give 2 shits less what you think about my intelligence level.
So you think Jews don't have the most nobel prizes?
I wouldn't have to say that you are moron if you didn't make that retarded comment which didn't make any sense in terms of history and culture.
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Re: Why do people persecute the Jews? [Re: LayYouIn]
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learningtofly said: I had a friend tell me this reason once "Jews are Gods chosen people, so everyone else is just jealous"
i've heard this too, but what does it mean that they are Gods chosen people?
it means they're #1?
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Re: Why do people persecute the Jews? [Re: LayYouIn]
#7806016 - 12/27/07 11:08 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Well...when Germany was so fucked up after ww1. People needed to blame someone, and they blamed the jews. Because the jews were still living well and they were wealthy. And a lot of people around the world hate jews because of Israel. Because they randomly settled in Palestine after ww2. I really don't hate jews. But if someone randomly declared my stuff theres...I would get pretty pissed to. Creating Israel pissed off many people living in Palestine.
The U.S. sells a lot of weapons to foreign countries...but only with defensive capabilities. The U.S. gladly supplies Israel with offensive weapons for free. And Israel is ruthless as hell with these weapons. They wipe the shit out of Palestinian towns and villages. This makes many muslims in the middle east hate Jews. And its also why many middle eastern countries hate the U.S.. Because we give Israel the means to keep killing them.
People in america using the word jew as an insult is beyond me. Maybe its some neo-nazi influence.
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Re: Why do people persecute the Jews? [Re: learningtofly]
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No that's bullshit from the OT. They are the cocksuckers in Israel that think this and they are the fuck heads that started settling in captured land after the 1967 war.
And yes Jews have controlled that region before there were Muslims and it was mostly theirs but times change.
There are also cock sucking Christians that think the same shit and think Jews should control all of the holy land. Fucking Bible thumpers.
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moses said: Well...when Germany was so fucked up after ww1. People needed to blame someone, and they blamed the jews. Because the jews were still living well and they were wealthy. And a lot of people around the world hate jews because of Israel. Because they randomly settled in Palestine after ww2. I really don't hate jews. But if someone randomly declared my stuff theres...I would get pretty pissed to. Creating Israel pissed off many people living in Palestine.
The U.S. sells a lot of weapons to foreign countries...but only with defensive capabilities. The U.S. gladly supplies Israel with offensive weapons for free. And Israel is ruthless as hell with these weapons. They wipe the shit out of Palestinian towns and villages. This makes many muslims in the middle east hate Jews. And its also why many middle eastern countries hated the U.S.. Because we give Israel the means to keep dominating muslims.
People in america using the word jew as an insult is beyond me. Maybe its some neo-nazi influence.
That happened before WWII as well. After the Muslims conquered that region and Jews were dispersed there were tensions. Jews tried to gain some power back and they were slaughtered by their Muslim rulers. Now..... pay back is a bitch, ain't it? The Muslims know what is at stake because they know their history of the holy land and that the Jews had a control of it before there even Muslims in that area. Yea... that's dedication for ya, taking back land that you controlled over 2,000 years ago, LOL.
And since the Fundamentalist Islamic cocksuckers have a lot of power in the region they want to make sure that Jewish pigs go back to where they belong, 2nd class citizens.
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Re: Why do people persecute the Jews? [Re: downforpot]
#7806049 - 12/27/07 11:17 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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downforpot said: Because we are good with money and science.
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Re: Why do people persecute the Jews? [Re: meatcakeman]
#7806076 - 12/27/07 11:23 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Explain. You think it's good that it happened? You want all Jews exterminated? What?
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Re: Why do people persecute the Jews? [Re: downforpot]
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I think alot of it is people just using it as a slang term for cheap. Of course there is alot of history behind it.
I think as far as neo naziisms goes, they are just a target for people that have a hateful mindset. They gotta hate someone, and jews are an easier target than blacks. You don't hear about jewish gangs beating the crap out of people(in the USA I mean).
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Re: Why do people persecute the Jews? [Re: 2FiNiTe]
#7806307 - 12/28/07 12:47 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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2FiNiTe said: The Palestinians want a home, just like the Jews did. The Jews got what they wanted, the Palestinians didn't.
The Palestinians already had one.
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Re: Why do people persecute the Jews? [Re: HELLA_TIGHT]
#7806340 - 12/28/07 01:03 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Has anybody here ever met a Jew who was stupid and really bad with money?
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Re: Why do people persecute the Jews? [Re: BrAiN]
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any one who talks about Jewish people that way is a dumbass
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Re: Why do people persecute the Jews? [Re: Iron_Hymen]
#7806354 - 12/28/07 01:10 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Jews are stealing my money
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Re: Why do people persecute the Jews? [Re: HELLA_TIGHT]
#7806356 - 12/28/07 01:10 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Re: Why do people persecute the Jews? [Re: HELLA_TIGHT]
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You must be drunk, you've posted in like every recent thread in the Pub.
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Re: Why do people persecute the Jews? [Re: downforpot]
#7806391 - 12/28/07 01:36 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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downforpot said: No that's bullshit from the OT.
Not even. The scriptures that state Jews are God's chosen don't mean it to say that they were privaleged, but that they had a responsibility - to lead by example. They failed to do this in the scriptures and so Jesus said what had given to them was now being taken away from them and given to the Gentiles - meaning all non-Jews. There is zero biblical entitlement of Jerusalem for the Jews.
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And yes Jews have controlled that region before there were Muslims and it was mostly theirs but times change.
Are these even the same Jews, do they actually carry any true Jewish blood? I heard something about them being descendents of the Khazars, who converted to Judaism in the 8 or 9th century.
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Re: Why do people persecute the Jews? [Re: Disco Cat]
#7806540 - 12/28/07 03:07 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Not even. The scriptures that state Jews are God's chosen don't mean it to say that they were privaleged, but that they had a responsibility - to lead by example. They failed to do this in the scriptures and so Jesus said what had given to them was now being taken away from them and given to the Gentiles - meaning all non-Jews. There is zero biblical entitlement of Jerusalem for the Jews.
You and I both know that people can interpret the scriptures as they like.
And I wasn't saying that God told them that Jerusalem belongs to them. I was pointing out that they were there before the Palestinians. But then again there were others before them in that region and multiple cultures and groups of people ruled that region over the millennia.
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Disco Cat said: Are these even the same Jews, do they actually carry any true Jewish blood? I heard something about them being descendents of the Khazars, who converted to Judaism in the 8 or 9th century.
From the latest research I would say they are the same Jews that are the descendants of people that lived in the Middle East when Jewish Kingdoms controlled that region.
"The results support the hypothesis that the paternal gene pools of Jewish communities from Europe, North Africa, and the Middle East descended from a common Middle Eastern ancestral population, and suggest that most Jewish communities have remained relatively isolated from neighboring non-Jewish communities during and after the Diaspora." http://www.pnas.org/cgi/content/full/97/12/6769
That link is from this wiki page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khazars#Jewish_sources
However I'm sure there are some Khazar Jews in Israel. There are Jews from all over the world in Israel.
On a side note, Compass was offended by my words and gave me a 0 rating OMG My life is over, praise the ignorant faggots.
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Re: Why do people persecute the Jews? [Re: downforpot]
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Re: Why do people persecute the Jews? [Re: RandalFlagg]
#7807036 - 12/28/07 10:25 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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RandalFlagg said: Has anybody here ever met a Jew who was stupid and really bad with money?
I have a Jewish friend who's white trash(or at least his family is). Doesn't know who his father is, and his family had a trailer in their yard that burned down one day.
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Re: Why do people persecute the Jews? [Re: moses]
#7807127 - 12/28/07 11:09 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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moses said: Because they randomly settled in Palestine after ww2. I really don't hate jews. But if someone randomly declared my stuff theres...I would get pretty pissed to. Creating Israel pissed off many people living in Palestine.
Randomly settled in Palestine? Holy shit son open up a history book or something. The Jews were chased out of that land 2000+ years ago, it was their holy land and the place they were "supposed" to live. They just didn't have the means to take back the land because it became a strategic military occupied area for basically the next few hundred years. This just shows that Jews can hold a grudge for a long time and will jump at any opportunity to take back what they view as theirs (Kidding about that part, kinda)
But yeah, in actuality they were there first, and there was definitely nothing "random" about why they wanted to be there again.
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Re: Why do people persecute the Jews? [Re: Jadian]
#7807141 - 12/28/07 11:14 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Jadian said: But yeah, in actuality they were there first
Well, maybe. Remember that the Canaanites were there before them. Modern geneticists have determined that much of the population of Lebanon(and presumably Palestine) shows Canaanite ancestry.
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Re: Why do people persecute the Jews? [Re: Silversoul]
#7807166 - 12/28/07 11:22 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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That's very true, but they aren't at all involved in the current political situation there. It's not Palestinians vs Jews vs Canaanites. If I remember my Lost Civilizations class correctly, they were thought to have shown up in Egypt later on after leaving the Arabian Peninsula weren't they? I thought they were actually absorbed by the Jewish when they were all enslaved by the Egyptians, but I'm probably wrong there, that class seems like forever ago at this point.
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Re: Why do people persecute the Jews? [Re: Jadian]
#7807577 - 12/28/07 02:33 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Jadian said: I thought they were actually absorbed by the Jewish when they were all enslaved by the Egyptians, but I'm probably wrong there, that class seems like forever ago at this point.
There is no historical evidence that would indicate that the Jews were ever enslaved by the Egyptians.
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Re: Why do people persecute the Jews? [Re: Ziggen]
#7807612 - 12/28/07 02:52 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Not as an entire group of people, but come on, they took slaves where they could get them, you don't think they got a few groups of Jews in there now and then?
I could be mixing up Canaanite and Jewish history entirely, like I said it's been a while since I took the class I learned this shit in, and I slept through quite a few video's.
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Re: Why do people persecute the Jews? [Re: Jadian]
#7807682 - 12/28/07 03:14 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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being "hispanic" (that is not a race, its an ethnicity) and knowing several things bout when my family came here, the way my grandfather killed chickens kosher, and the fact that he just looks rather ethnically Jewish sort of makes me think its a possibility our family was kicked out of Spain for being Jews during the inquisition. this is largely anectodotal and probably not proveable anyway.
That being said, I think Israel is fucking up the world. the Jews don't deserve it, they got kicked out fair and square, and I hate our support for that country and its tyrannical leaders. I also hate how we regard Saudi Arabia as our allies (they really are not) all theocracies need to be denounced by the U.S frankly.
The Jews did not kill Jesus because Jesus has never existed. He is a fictional person based upon similar stories going around at the time. Kind of like how the name of one of Moses's son was taken directly from previous religions that had become "Mythology". Why is Zeus and Apollo myths while Jesus and God are "Religion"? That is my question, and explains why I am atheist (although I have my own religion)
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Re: Why do people persecute the Jews? [Re: Drewwyann]
#7807722 - 12/28/07 03:26 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Drewwyann said: just because. I can't really explain why.
I stopped calling people jews for fun at the end of 8th grade I believe. After that it got sort of stupid.
People aren't actually against jews when they say that. It's most likely purely sarcastic. Unless you have some nazi friends?
me too, or there about that time. I think my group of friends did that at the time largely because of the than recent introduction of south park.
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Re: Why do people persecute the Jews? [Re: LayYouIn]
#7808002 - 12/28/07 05:00 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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learningtofly said: I had a friend tell me this reason once "Jews are Gods chosen people, so everyone else is just jealous"
i've heard this too, but what does it mean that they are Gods chosen people?
in case no one has answered this question
Jews were gods chosen people, chosen for what? they were chosen to teach, nothing more.
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Re: Why do people persecute the Jews? [Re: downforpot]
#7808036 - 12/28/07 05:15 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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You condemn ignorance, yet slang around "faggot" like nothing else. Classy.
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Re: Why do people persecute the Jews? [Re: Brugman]
#7808051 - 12/28/07 05:23 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Awwww, does that offend you? Awww, poor pussy ass FAGGOT. By the way fuckwad, how did you conclude saying faggot = ignorance?
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That being said, I think Israel is fucking up the world. the Jews don't deserve it, they got kicked out fair and square, and I hate our support for that country and its tyrannical leaders.
The Arabs lost the land fair and square. See, I can do it too.
Israel is protecting its land and making sure Muslims never take control of it ever again. They have been trying to do this for some time.
I honestly think Israel should be more tyrannical. It was really pussy of them to get out of Gaza considering the fact they still get rocket attacks from there. I say take it all over again and kick all the Muslims out. That way everyone can say "Yep, that's totally tyrannical, fucking Jews".
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Re: Why do people persecute the Jews? [Re: downforpot]
#7808078 - 12/28/07 05:31 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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haha downforpot has actually bought in to the whole jews are superior bullshit.
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Re: Why do people persecute the Jews? [Re: Scarfmeister]
#7808137 - 12/28/07 05:58 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Scarfmeister said: haha downforpot has actually bought in to the whole jews are superior bullshit.
Learn to read, you fucking moron:
"No that's bullshit from the OT. They are the cocksuckers in Israel that think this and they are the fuck heads that started settling in captured land after the 1967 war.
And yes Jews have controlled that region before there were Muslims and it was mostly theirs but times change.
There are also cock sucking Christians that think the same shit and think Jews should control all of the holy land. Fucking Bible thumpers."
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/7806020#Post7806020
Make sure you reply to that because otherwise you are a dumb fuck that can't read.
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Re: Why do people persecute the Jews? [Re: downforpot]
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Re: Why do people persecute the Jews? [Re: fapjack]
#7808223 - 12/28/07 06:25 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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What do you expect me to say? Say that everyone else sucks and Jews are the best? You want me to say that?
Or did you run out of ideas? Too stupid come up with anything else to say? Good job trolling.
Also, that doesn't make any sense. Since Jews are known for being good with money why wouldn't you want them investing your money to make you more money? You like being poor?
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Re: Why do people persecute the Jews? [Re: LayYouIn]
#7808233 - 12/28/07 06:32 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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persecution is a function of ignorance (bigotry) applied to a minority group for the benefit of the majority. there is never a basis in fact that can be applied to any group. persecution is also a function of human cruelty that puts one group in a superior position. it is the root of all evil.
there are 13 million jewish people in the world. 6 BILLION others. minority group.
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Re: Why do people persecute the Jews? [Re: downforpot]
#7808266 - 12/28/07 06:45 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Im surprised you havent gotten banned yet. I get banned if i express that someone here is an idiot. Trendal is a punk though.
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Re: Why do people persecute the Jews? [Re: Scarfmeister]
#7808423 - 12/28/07 07:54 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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I already said it before. If someone says some idiotic shit I will call them out on it. I cannot lie.
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Re: Why do people persecute the Jews? [Re: downforpot]
#7808595 - 12/28/07 08:57 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Re: Why do people persecute the Jews? [Re: fapjack]
#7808869 - 12/28/07 10:19 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Trolling.
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