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Drewwyann
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The Love Cliche
#7799334 - 12/25/07 08:58 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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It seems to me that a lot of people that use LSD, mushrooms, or substances of the like always seem to use the word love.
I have not found myself to be associated with this trend all too much.
I have had many many experiences where I have come down off of LSD feeling a bitter feeling towards the people around me. I got dragged to the mall once by some friends on a low dose trip, and i came out of it crying for the destruction of the world due to the ignorance of mankind.
I have also had incredibly positive experiences where I cried because the world is so beautiful. I felt overwhelming love, to the point where it hurt. Everything was so perfect. So real. Not even death could have stopped the feeling.
LSD can certainly make you feel love and feel loved, but it can most definitely have adverse effects as well.
Has anyone else had trips where they find themselves loathing the very culture they are a part of?
I am a very cynical person you could say, so that would definitely explain why it does this to me sometimes.
I think about the army. I think about the mall. I think about commercialism. I think about marketing. I think about the DEA keeping marijuana, LSD, and mushrooms in the same category as crack and heroin. I think about politics. All of it is so very evil at it's core.
Is loving hate still love?
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Re: The Love Cliche [Re: Drewwyann]
#7799360 - 12/25/07 09:06 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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ya dood i think about that kind of stuff all the time like some tv shows i think are so horribly written that it literally sickens me 2 watch it and ya if at some times u cry cuz things are too beautiful than i think it is ok to say u love that substance even if sometimes it makes u loathe everything
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Drewwyann
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Re: The Love Cliche [Re: Coaster]
#7799364 - 12/25/07 09:09 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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I'm not talking about loving LSD, or the substance. I'm talking about feeling love while on it more or less.
I fairly often feel the opposite of love.
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Re: The Love Cliche [Re: Coaster]
#7799372 - 12/25/07 09:11 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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im interested, do you really love hate, or does it just seem more natural to be cynical about the world when youre seeing it through acids eyes?
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Drewwyann
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Re: The Love Cliche [Re: bowerbird]
#7799388 - 12/25/07 09:14 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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I do not love hate. I don't like it, but it is part of me to be cynical. I don't particularly hate too much.
that was more of just a question i thought would be interesting to ask.
I don't in any way love hate though. I am very skeptical, and cynical.
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Re: The Love Cliche [Re: bowerbird]
#7799392 - 12/25/07 09:15 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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oooooooooooooooo then i feel like this on all drugs and also sober its the natural rhythm of life our thoughts go in this circular repetitive fashion our emotions continuously chaining through all the different ones
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Re: The Love Cliche [Re: Coaster]
#7799401 - 12/25/07 09:17 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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and ya man when im phucked up on something good then i can see the world in a much clearer perspective much above everybody elses thoughts and when ur superior and no it then u think everything is really lame and wack cuz u see right through their lies u no exactly wut they were thinking when they did it and u dont like it maybe? lol
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Re: The Love Cliche [Re: Drewwyann]
#7799405 - 12/25/07 09:18 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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yeah man. im a pretty cynical person as well when it comes to modern society. but i find that sometimes when i come off acid im even more cynical than usual, and cynical about the love that i feel on it too.
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Re: The Love Cliche [Re: Drewwyann]
#7799449 - 12/25/07 09:44 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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i feel the same way when tripping, which is why i don't trip very often anymore. i've been called cynical by people my whole life so maybe that is the issue. last time i had strong trip i was so outraged by what i saw on TV that i haven't watched it since, going on two years now.
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Re: The Love Cliche [Re: Drewwyann]
#7799453 - 12/25/07 09:45 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Drewwyann said: It seems to me that a lot of people that use LSD, mushrooms, or substances of the like always seem to use the word love.
I have not found myself to be associated with this trend all too much.
I have had many many experiences where I have come down off of LSD feeling a bitter feeling towards the people around me. I got dragged to the mall once by some friends on a low dose trip, and i came out of it crying for the destruction of the world due to the ignorance of mankind.
I have also had incredibly positive experiences where I cried because the world is so beautiful. I felt overwhelming love, to the point where it hurt. Everything was so perfect. So real. Not even death could have stopped the feeling.
LSD can certainly make you feel love and feel loved, but it can most definitely have adverse effects as well.
Has anyone else had trips where they find themselves loathing the very culture they are a part of?
I am a very cynical person you could say, so that would definitely explain why it does this to me sometimes.
I think about the army. I think about the mall. I think about commercialism. I think about marketing. I think about the DEA keeping marijuana, LSD, and mushrooms in the same category as crack and heroin. I think about politics. All of it is so very evil at it's core.
Is loving hate still love?
i don't really have anything to say but i very much relate to your post and have had similar experiences. i can actually sort of relate to people who go on killing sprees or serial killers, not that i think it's "cool" or "good". this whole attachment to love and being happy all the time is completely hypocritical and is actually responsible for the opposite manifestations.
well, i'm not really sure it works that way. i don't know if someone being incredibly happy necessarily means that someone somewhere else has to be incredibly miserable. i think it's the attachment to being happy that creates it, which pushes all the suffering somewhere else so you don't have to deal with it. and it is in this way that society still performs ritualistic sacrifices of other animals and even their own kind in order for those at the top to continue reaching greater heights of indulgence and decadence. the ritual is much more insidious and in the dark now though, and it goes by the name suicide.
am i talking out of my ass? maybe... but if acid has the potential to expand your mind then i will be hesitant to throw away new perspectives i gain from it, such as the one i presented above. i believe that we've made a big mistake becoming individualistic to this degree and i think it's unconsciously being created by those with the most power.
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i feel the same way when tripping, which is why i don't trip very often anymore. i've been called cynical by people my whole life so maybe that is the issue. last time i had strong trip i was so outraged by what i saw on TV that i haven't watched it since, going on two years now.
when i watch TV on acid i get PISSED. i see de-humanization on every channel
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