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I want to settle this once in for all...simple yes or no.
    #7798581 - 12/25/07 02:57 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

I've been serching forums all yesterday trying to figure it out...They were all inconclusive...and have round about ways of saying this and myths saying mushrooms would not be as potent or as plentiful.....

Can you use white rice for growing?

Also I would like to say, I really like the backround and features Wicked job (y)


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Re: I want to settle this once in for all...simple yes or no. [Re: jape]
    #7798596 - 12/25/07 03:01 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Why not try it, start a Grow Log, and settle it yourself!

Seems no one has ever really tried it maybe?


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Re: I want to settle this once in for all...simple yes or no. [Re: jape]
    #7798599 - 12/25/07 03:02 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

you havent been searching enough , here is a thread that belongs to only 2 days or 3 days ago , the answer is here :
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/7787935/an/0/page/0
you will see someone who did it got the fruits and the fruits were inactive , so the answer is no .
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/6860386#6860386 there is another thread that ifound within 30 secs of searching but the first one is done just a week ago or so .
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Re: I want to settle this once in for all...simple yes or no. [Re: whereismymind]
    #7798618 - 12/25/07 03:08 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

So do you think that by useing white rice flour instead, mycologists could legally grow cubes becuase they are INACTIVE? I'm pretty sure that if your mushrooms don't contain Psilocybin or Psilocin they're legal, as I don't beleive they have specifically schedualed Psilocybe species right?

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Re: I want to settle this once in for all...simple yes or no. [Re: whereismymind]
    #7798626 - 12/25/07 03:11 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Okay, I'm going to try 2 jars white, 2 jars brown.....Man if bill Nye was here XD

Uhmm...another question...how long can a LC live fore in a syringe? My friend game me some though he said it's around a month old, Is it still good?


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Re: I want to settle this once in for all...simple yes or no. [Re: hightimesreader]
    #7798627 - 12/25/07 03:13 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

there will still be trace amounts of actives , but which is not enough for someone tripping balls , you can read the effects from that guy's thread he said there was something , but nothing really .
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Re: I want to settle this once in for all...simple yes or no. [Re: jape]
    #7798630 - 12/25/07 03:15 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

if you have time space and patience do it , its your choice , but why insisting on something that is not working , and believe me it has been done several times , with 15 mins of searching i can find you at least 10 times but that is your search now .
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Re: I want to settle this once in for all...simple yes or no. [Re: whereismymind]
    #7798642 - 12/25/07 03:19 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

So..

So do you think that by useing white rice flour instead, mycologists could legally grow cubes becuase they are INACTIVE? I'm pretty sure that if your mushrooms don't contain Psilocybin or Psilocin they're legal, as I don't beleive they have specifically schedualed Psilocybe species right?

My point is that with such small amounts of actives, you could prove only a use of printing the mushrooms, just like hemp, where it has trace amounts of thc. This could be the mycologists defense if doing so in such a way, as you would not grow inactive mushrooms just for fun if they taste like horse shit right?

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Re: I want to settle this once in for all...simple yes or no. [Re: hightimesreader]
    #7798670 - 12/25/07 03:30 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

i dont know if amounts are important while accusing someone but they will still have it , all i know is psilocin and psilocibyn are illegal , but i don't know if there is a threshold to be able to be tested about the existence of psilocin or psilocibyn ,
but what i think is , since psilocin and psilocibyn are still in the substrate you will be punished for that but that is my idead don't know if it is true .

here are some quotes from the first link they also thought the same way as you did .
Mango "
wait a minute... white flour gives INACTIVE samples... holy crap. This could be extremely useful in cultivation of supposedly illicit specimens! This is a clearly exploitable loop hole in US law. This must be further examined. This allows experimentation free of law interference. Most people might not care or see how this could be useful... I can't believe I didn't see this before."

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"Im not quite sure of that, while they might seem inactives i would imagine that they would still have trace amounts of actives, just not enough for them to work.

Mycelium grown with brf has actives in them but generaly not enough for you to trip, not until the mushrooms grow. "

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Re: I want to settle this once in for all...simple yes or no. [Re: hightimesreader]
    #7798672 - 12/25/07 03:31 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

The white flour things has been tested and only within the last 30 days. Someone didn't have brown rice flour so they opted for white. The mushrooms had TINY and I mean SMALL little caps on great big fat stems. The person tried to eat them and he reported NO ACTIVITY what-so-ever. It has been done. Now what can be done with that is the question.

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Re: I want to settle this once in for all...simple yes or no. [Re: Crake]
    #7798690 - 12/25/07 03:36 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/7763787#7763787

I found the link... Take a look for yourself.


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Re: I want to settle this once in for all...simple yes or no. [Re: Crake]
    #7798788 - 12/25/07 04:16 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Okay, I went to 7-11 and bought some uncle Ben's 2 minute rice (I could not find brown Rice at 7-11)...and some white rice.....I'm going to have 4 jars....1 ground white...one ground uncle Ben.....1 whole white...1 whole uncle Ben's....

And it begins.

Also since my last question was "Why does mycelium like brown rice so much?" http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/7796222#7796222 I herd someone say that it was not the bran or anything...It was just that it eats...Ect....So, Could it be the bran and husk from the brown rice they like so much?


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Re: I want to settle this once in for all...simple yes or no. [Re: jape]
    #7800283 - 12/26/07 07:44 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Bran, germ, and husk, yes.  The starches within the rice (the white part) are also consumed and used as energy.

WHOLE GRAINS are more nutritional than grains that have been stripped.  Nutritionists don't just say that to hear themselves rattle. :biggrin:  Different parts of the grain provide different nutrients - removing any of them lessens the value as a growing medium, if fully sized and potent mushrooms are desired.


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Re: I want to settle this once in for all...simple yes or no. [Re: Sillicybin]
    #7800301 - 12/26/07 07:55 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

White rice, and white bleached wheat flour will give poor results. This has been tried hundreds of times. If you want to do it again, suit yourself.

It isn't a case of potency. It's a case of not giving the mycelium what it wants to eat, thus the performance is poor. Experimenting is good, but re-inventing the square wheel is not good. I'd suggest using proved substrates, or look for better substrates, but not those that are already proved to be inferior.
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Re: I want to settle this once in for all...simple yes or no. [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #7800402 - 12/26/07 08:59 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

I agree,

Try verm/dogfood. Or something that you at least aren't sure will give shitty results. Or maybe try soaking your rice in coffee? At least do something different than the 1000 or so people that have proven this method sucks ass.


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Re: I want to settle this once in for all...simple yes or no. [Re: Glacier Creek]
    #7800544 - 12/26/07 10:35 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

i want to see rye flour vs BRF once and for all :smile:


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Re: I want to settle this once in for all...simple yes or no. [Re: anarchOi]
    #7800923 - 12/26/07 01:32 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Rye flour vs brf has been done many times. Performance is similar. The only real difference is that BRF doesn't require pressure cooking, but rye flour does.
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Re: I want to settle this once in for all...simple yes or no. [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #7801529 - 12/26/07 05:29 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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So do you think that by useing white rice flour instead, mycologists could legally grow cubes becuase they are INACTIVE?




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This could be extremely useful in cultivation of supposedly illicit specimens! This is a clearly exploitable loop hole in US law. This must be further examined. This allows experimentation free of law interference. Most people might not care or see how this could be useful... I can't believe I didn't see this before."




First of all... why?

Secondly, while the psilocybin and psilocin are illegal, so are the mushrooms that produce those chemicals. It is illegal to grow psilocybin producing mushrooms, even if they do a poor job of it.

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Experimenting is good, but re-inventing the square wheel is not good. I'd suggest using proved substrates, or look for better substrates, but not those that are already proved to be inferior.




I agree. Why waste the time? This was just one of the dozens of threads out there about white in place of brown. You should spend the extra time finding Brown rice because of the billions of threads promoting its use.


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Re: I want to settle this once in for all...simple yes or no. [Re: thedefone]
    #7802159 - 12/26/07 09:48 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Okay, well Oh well, I did it already, one with it ground and with it whole...and two uncle Ben's 2 minute rice...

2 questions though...How long does LC usually last?

and...How do I figure out the potency?


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Re: I want to settle this once in for all...simple yes or no. [Re: jape]
    #7802174 - 12/26/07 09:53 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

lol why don't you consider my opinion when i tell you not to do and it fails and while i was giving you 2 different threads which tells you it fails , do you need rr to chime in so that you can believe it doesnt work .
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