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OfflineMaddenKing081
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Perhaps an explanation for UFO's
    #7797566 - 12/25/07 07:19 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Just a theory here, I was talking to my grandpa who used to be in the British Royal Air Force. He was talking about a secret Air Force project called Aurora. Its a stealth fighter that has some sort of supersonic engine. Its been clocked at mach 7. and people in California have reccently been reporting earthquakes and when they check the seismagraph, no earthquake has occured. He firmly believes that UFO sightings in the southwest and west coast are attributed to the US top secret flights. And the "earthquakes" were a sonic boom from the Aurora flying too close to the surface.

He's a brillant man and I actually believe that theory far more than Aliens attempting to make contact with us.

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/pages/aurora.html


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Re: Perhaps an explanation for UFO's [Re: MaddenKing081]
    #7798944 - 12/25/07 06:08 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

The bulk of the UFO phenomena that seems to deeply perplex most (everyday) are most likely secret military gadgets.

That doesn't mean to explain any of the phenomena related to encounter recollections, whistle-blower testimony, ancient tales of shit in the sky, and the logical stepstones of universality that one can stand on that are in no way shape or form any less logical than the theories which cannot conclusively peel away the layers necessarily to declare "non-existance/visitation".

Once again, there is a vivid song that is being sung and we still try to rewrite it in a way that we can all sing it "easier" to sing.

It seems as though people always look for the "simplest" asnwer, because it's quicker and easier to get their head around the concepts.

That works for things such as theories for explaining the fabric of the universe, but not in the 3rd density reality which we are in, which can have unlimited possibilities, all which the fundamental laws of physics can support.


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Re: Perhaps an explanation for UFO's [Re: MaddenKing081]
    #7799743 - 12/25/07 11:43 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Your theory fails to account for the infamous Gulf Breeze Sightings, wherein millions of people were convinced that saucer models double exposed on film were space visitors.


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Re: Perhaps an explanation for UFO's [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #7799771 - 12/25/07 11:50 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Theres one where a guy placed a shirt button over a picture, superimposed it, and said theres a saucer and everyone was like OMG ALIENZ


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Re: Perhaps an explanation for UFO's [Re: learningtofly]
    #7799853 - 12/26/07 12:18 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

How can we be certain that the button was of Terran origin?


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Re: Perhaps an explanation for UFO's [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #7799884 - 12/26/07 12:41 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

cuz years later he admitted to doing it


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Re: Perhaps an explanation for UFO's [Re: learningtofly]
    #7799906 - 12/26/07 12:56 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

He could be in on the disinformation conspiracy.

Remember that there is an impausible rebuttal for every fact presented that deconstructs the UFO myth.


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Re: Perhaps an explanation for UFO's [Re: MaddenKing081]
    #7801521 - 12/26/07 05:25 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Some of them will be exactly that but it gets harder to understand when these high tech craft start flying into places they shouldn't be.

Like in the famous Belgium mass sighting. They asked the USA if it was one of theirs and they denied it. They big question is why would any government fly a secret/test craft into Belgium's airspace.

Also with the Rendlesham forest incident even the military were perplexed as to where the craft came from and what it was doing here. Again other countries deny all knowledge.

If we have this technology then I wonder why we don't use it. NASA sat there firing men on rockets to get them into space lol. If the vehicle in the Belgium incident is one of ours then it is leagues ahead of our commercial vehicles.

The tech required to do what that craft did is still in our science fiction.
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Re: Perhaps an explanation for UFO's [Re: Ego Death]
    #7801593 - 12/26/07 06:02 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Obviously you dont know much about the US Air Force Programme. The Aurora most certainly does exist although Im sure the code name has been changed.

Aurora is a hypersonic aircraft, capable of reaching Mach 6. The existance of the aircraft isnt a myth, Its just a matter of civilians actually getting to see it. Since the US only tests this plane at night time and with F-16 cover. My grandpa believes he saw this air craft from Lakenheath Air Force base in England.

The US denies this project to its own service people. Why would they tell Belguim about it? I have absolutely NO doubt that the Aurora does exist.

That and the testing of hover aircraft could easily explain why people believe these UFO sightings, especially because people like you believe this technology is "science fiction".. both pulse engine and supersonic technology have been tested numerous times.


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Re: Perhaps an explanation for UFO's [Re: MaddenKing081]
    #7801612 - 12/26/07 06:12 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Did you read my post or just decide to shout a load of garbage at me, because you completely misunderstood.

I'm not saying what happened in Belgium was Aurora, the question is if all these craft are just miltary craft then what would they be doing violating Belgium's airspace or landing just outside a military base in England?

Theres no doubt they have secret high tech craft, that is obvious. The point is that not all these high tech craft are of human origin.

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=7801591&page=0&vc=#Post7801591


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Re: Perhaps an explanation for UFO's [Re: MaddenKing081]
    #7801618 - 12/26/07 06:14 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

A pulse engine is not an inertia canceler

wtf are you rambling on about lol?


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Re: Perhaps an explanation for UFO's [Re: Ego Death]
    #7801648 - 12/26/07 06:29 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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Ego Death said:
Did you read my post or just decide to shout a load of garbage at me, because you completely misunderstood.

I'm not saying what happened in Belgium was Aurora, the question is if all these craft are just miltary craft then what would they be doing violating Belgium's airspace or landing just outside a military base in England?

Theres no doubt they have secret high tech craft, that is obvious. The point is that not all these high tech craft are of human origin.

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=7801591&page=0&vc=#Post7801591




I did read your post, but you seem to think that the US cares about violating Belgiums airpace. Its entirely possible that the US was testing the Aurora using one of Englands AF bases, since the UK is the US' bitch in terms of an ally.

US is infamously known for having a complete disregard of international law. which would explain why they wouldnt give 2 shits about testing it over their airspace and then denying it.

And I would be nieve to believe that the US is the only country developing such an aircraft.

I just think its fair more believable that they are various flight projects opposed to aliens landing their ships.


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Re: Perhaps an explanation for UFO's [Re: MaddenKing081]
    #7801668 - 12/26/07 06:41 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

I was trying to explain to you how this aircraft works. It has a special fuel that provides its own oxygen as it reaches the 75,000 ft. that it can fly at. Its not quite a rocket fuel, I believe its called RAM fuel but dont quote me on that.

Bottom line is, the technology does most certainly does exist.

I just picked my grandpa's brain a bit and he said that he was in charge of investiagting UFO claims for the RAF and said that for about the 200 claims they had, he found an explanation for all of them. Most of them being Weather balloons that were launched to observe the automosphere and sometimes crashed or left a caught fire and left a meteor type affect in the sky.


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Re: Perhaps an explanation for UFO's [Re: MaddenKing081]
    #7802231 - 12/26/07 10:09 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

i guess people that have never seem ufo can´t believe they exist, and can´t imaging extraterrestrial life , more that in the movies, you can´t imagine life out of the planet because we have to see it to believe it , but we can´t denny any since we have the earth as a perfect example that life can go where the conditions are right we know in solar system life can´t be as we recognise in the earth , but what about the other millions of planets , with conditions just like earth if i don´t bad remenber scientific have discover more that just once of this planets, where in theory life can exist then if you see the hystory of men you will see all civilization have extraterrestial beings or at leats there is a record of is existence,
i mean project aurora that what many year ago men if you know about it is real old , now another proyect are more advance, i mean i was a kid when the black bird cross the sky taking spy pictures that was in 80¨s, the earth treemble , and it was like and earth quake but that was 27 years ago or more. imaging now and with alien tecnology . they can be in your ass . or worse ,
all my best vibrations. come on aliens fly .


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Re: Perhaps an explanation for UFO's [Re: cactu]
    #7802253 - 12/26/07 10:15 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Oh no, im not nieve, I do believe there is life outside of Earth. While I dont agree that other planets have the perfect conditions for life since many of the planets get extremely cold or extremely hot far more than humans could even imagine. But I definetely think there is some sort of life out there.

I just feel confident that they arent making contact with us. And like I said, my grandfather was directly in charge of investigating UFO claims for the RAF and managed to disprove every single one claim made, which he estimates at around 200 over his 3 years in that department.

I know its awesome to see something and believe its more than what it is. But sometimes an apple is just an apple. Not a rocket.


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Re: Perhaps an explanation for UFO's [Re: cactu]
    #7802615 - 12/27/07 12:44 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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i guess people that have never seem ufo can´t believe they exist, and can´t imaging extraterrestrial life , more that in the movies, you can´t imagine life out of the planet because we have to see it to believe it , but we can´t denny any since we have the earth as a perfect example that life can go where the conditions are right we know in solar system life can´t be as we recognise in the earth , but what about the other millions of planets , with conditions just like earth if i don´t bad remenber scientific have discover more that just once of this planets, where in theory life can exist then if you see the hystory of men you will see all civilization have extraterrestial beings or at leats there is a record of is existence,
i mean project aurora that what many year ago men if you know about it is real old , now another proyect are more advance, i mean i was a kid when the black bird cross the sky taking spy pictures that was in 80¨s, the earth treemble , and it was like and earth quake but that was 27 years ago or more. imaging now and with alien tecnology . they can be in your ass . or worse ,
all my best vibrations. come on aliens fly .




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