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Offlinelucyfu
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Christmas Eve OR coast: Still There
    #7796697 - 12/24/07 09:25 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Found one nice size fruit in my patch on central coast. Looks good so there could be others.

A question for any of the old pros on here: this is my first season so I'm thinking that this coast patch I've been picking is azies and not cyans because I have only found one fully mature fruit that has any "wavy" to the cap. I've been picking cyans inland and know the distinct wavy shape and these don't have it. But now after checking pics of azies I'm not sure if it is a cyan or azure. I can try to get a pic up here, but I was wondering if anyone might know this is just a variation of either type or just a way that either act or another type of psilocybe altogether. It meets all discriptions of psilocybe cyanescen (or azurescen) except that the cap remains distinclty convex instead of continuing onto umbonate, plane uplifted, or wavy.

Odd enough it looks like the pics of cyans in "Mushrooms Demystified" if anyone has this (sure ya do) the mushrooms I've been finding look just like the middle 3 mushrooms in that pic (another reason I'm thinking they might be cyans, but I thought that with cyans more then just one fruit (out of about 30 over 4 flushes over 2 months) out of a single patch would have a wavy cap?

Thanks for the input.

p.s. The mushroom I found today was growing right off a 4"x1/2" stick so I brought it home and placed in some woodchips and put in a little fruiting chamber. Don't know if this will do anything but I figure maybe some other fruits might come up or it will colonize the woodchips (any ideas?). I plan on trying to do some sort of tissue culture or maybe a spre print from the mushroom there already, just want to keep it going so I can figure exaclty what type/variation it is. Any help on low tek light eq woodlover grow teks would be awsome. I've got some carboard going from cyans and it's colonizing good on some pieces but very slow on other I'm wondering if it's to wet or not getting enough light (?) and I made a couple of karo jars and tried to get a tissue culture piece from the inside of the cap but cyans are so small so who knows if it came out clean. I also tried the smoothie tek and have some small (1-2mm) growth at a couple of sites after about a week. I'm going to try funkyballoons tissue culture tek right after I get off here.

What's the best way????


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InvisibleGGreatOne234
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Re: Christmas Eve OR coast: Still There [Re: lucyfu]
    #7796847 - 12/24/07 10:26 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

I don't know lucyfu, I am having a hard time reading your question, and do not quite understand what you are you even talking about.

I had a long day though so I might just be tired. Do you think that your question would be better suited in our Mushroom Cultivation forum?

The photograph in Mushrooms Demystified of Psilocybe cyanescens I have heard (my memory might be a little rusty on this one) that it is not even a cyan in Aurora's photograph, I could be wrong about that though.

Sharing an image of any mushrooms you found would be more helpful then a garbled description.


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OfflineAlan RockefellerM
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Re: Christmas Eve OR coast: Still There [Re: GGreatOne234]
    #7796862 - 12/24/07 10:31 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

The picture of "Psilocybe cyanescens" in Mushrooms Demystified is wrong - The species shown is actually Psilocybe cyanofibrillosa or P. cyanofriscosa.


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Re: Christmas Eve OR coast: Still There [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #7797693 - 12/25/07 08:57 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

one of your questions is relate to if you have cyans or azurences well maybe you have some cyanofibrillosa or cyanofriscosa.since those can have a more convex cap , you should do a tissue culture spore print, and try all the best , thas my advice

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Offlinelucyfu
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Re: Christmas Eve OR coast: Still There [Re: cactu]
    #7798042 - 12/25/07 11:34 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Sorry for the confusions on the question, (and lack of camera).

Simplified discription: looks just like a cyan or azies, but with convex cap never expanding more.

Might be what tahoe is finding and posting about? Sounds about the same, but the photos he posted show caps with even more open/wavy then those I've been finding. The reason I'm thinking they are different from cyanofibrillosa is the lack of any "plane," "uplifted" or "umbonate" to the caps, they remain convex., same reason I think they aren't azurescens.

Is potency the only way to tell them as cyanofibrillosa? (macroscopic) Does cyanofriscosa grow in Oregon?

As for cultivation I'm sure the cultivation boards would be better but I just lumped it in to see if anyone as a great tried and tested method.

Thanks All!


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Re: Christmas Eve OR coast: Still There [Re: lucyfu]
    #7798063 - 12/25/07 11:46 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

My guess is P. azurescens.


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Offlinelucyfu
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Re: Christmas Eve OR coast: Still There [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #7798112 - 12/25/07 12:08 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

I didn't know anything about the cyclone psilocybe, but looked it up at sporeworks and it looks the closest to what I've found, the dried caps aren't as white as the pic and the caps just a little bit brighter, but dry cap colors in cyanescens vary a ton too so? I guess that's the same thing as the cyanofriscosa? I kind of looks like the new Washington variety pic on the same sporeworks gallery, but the caps are much darker and more plump.


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