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Offlinebodynotdead
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Cannabis smoke has 20 times more harmful toxins than tobacco
    #7796370 - 12/24/07 06:34 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Cannabis smoke 'has more toxins'

Inhaled cannabis smoke has more harmful toxins
than tobacco, scientists have discovered.


The Canadian government research found 20 times
as much ammonia, a chemical linked to cancer, New Scientist said.

The Health Canada team also found five times as much
hydrogen cyanide and nitrogen oxides, which are
linked to heart and lung damage respectively.

But tobacco smoke contained more of a toxin linked to
infertility. Experts said users must be aware of the risks.

About a quarter of the population in the UK smokes
tobacco products, while a sixth of 15 to 34-year-olds
have tried cannabis in the past year, making it the most commonly used drug.

Quote:

The confirmation of
the presence of known carcinogens
and other chemicals implicated is
important information for public health



However, it has also been acknowledged that the average
tobacco user smokes more than a cannabis user.

Researchers from Health Canada, the government's health
research department, used a smoking machine to analyse
the composition of the inhaled smoke for nearly 20
harmful chemicals.

They also looked at the sidestream smoke,
given off from the burning tip of the product
and responsible for 85% of the smoked inhaled
through passive smoking.

Concentrations

In most cases, the comparison on sidestream
smoke broadly mirrored that of inhaled smoke.

However, in the case of polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons,
the toxin linked to infertility, the researchers found
concentrations were actually higher in cigarette smoke.

The study also showed little difference in the concentrations
of a range of chemicals, including chromium, nickel,
arsenic and selenium.

Lead researcher David Moir said: "The consumption of
marijuana through smoking remains a reality and among
the young seems to be increasing.

"The confirmation of the presence of known carcinogens
and other chemical is important information for public health."

Dr Richard Russell, a specialist at the Windsor Chest
Clinic, said: "The health impact of cannabis is often
over-looked amid the legal debate.

"Evidence shows it is multiplied when it is cannabis
compared to tobacco.

"Tobacco from manufacturers has been enhanced and
cleaned whereas cannabis is relatively unprocessed
and therefore is a much dirtier product.

"These findings do not surprise me. The toxins
from cannabis smoke cause lung inflammation, lung
damage and cancer."

Stephen Spiro, of the British Lung Foundation,
added the findings were "a great worry".


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Re: Cannabis smoke has 20 times more harmful toxins than tobacco [Re: bodynotdead]
    #7796377 - 12/24/07 06:38 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I need links to the sources... I don't trust the "scientists" interests. Perhaps they were bought off, just like most scientists who's reports are publicly made a stink of. RJ Reynolds may have a hand and a dick in this.


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Re: Cannabis smoke has 20 times more harmful toxins than tobacco [Re: Crake]
    #7796385 - 12/24/07 06:41 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

PS- Damn near EVERYTHING we put into our bodies has some side effect. The choice to use should be considered after every health aspect is weighed out ( so UNLIKE the use of tobacco, why even use it?)... everything comes at a cost.


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Re: Cannabis smoke has 20 times more harmful toxins than tobacco [Re: Crake]
    #7796388 - 12/24/07 06:43 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Mods, lets not close this as its a new article, k? The study was covered earlier, but this is a new interpretation w/ new quotes.



From my other post:

Study text:
http://pubs.acs.org/cgi-bin/sample.cgi/crtoec/asap/html/tx700275p.html

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And not surprisingly, it is not the study in this instance that demonizes marijuana, its the selective news report.


"A comparison of the PAHs in mainstream smoke showed that levels from marijuana were lower than those from tobacco, although the pattern of content was very similar. The only exception was dibenz(a,h)anthracene, which was slightly elevated in marijuana under ISO conditions. Under high temperatures and reduced oxygen, tobacco can undergo a pyrolysis process in which free radical formation is enhanced (34), which increases PAH formation. Nitrogen oxides can act as free radical scavengers and can lower PAH formation from pyrolysis (37), and the presence of higher levels of nitrate may therefore lower PAH formation. However, in a study examining the levels of 14 PAHs in commercial tobacco cigarettes, no correlation could be found between nitrate levels and PAH content in the smoke (38). The authors concluded that many factors affect the ultimate concentration of PAHs in mainstream smoke.

The sidestream smoke tells a different story from the mainstream, with marijuana showing greater yields of a number of PAHs than those from tobacco. The differences seem to be more pronounced for the lower molecular weight substances as shown in Figures 1 and "

Mainstream inhalation of marijuana therefore produces less polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons (PAH) than tobacco, except for the anthracene, which is mildly elevated. PAH's are largely suspected or confirmed carcinogens. See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polycyclic_aromatic_hydrocarbon



PAH ratio marijuana/tobacco w/ mainstream smoke



And, for anybody interested, go to Table 3, and check out the VAST difference in heavy metals between the marijuana and tobacco. Mercury, for instance, was of a magnitude of 3.17 ± 0.32 in tobacco, whereas in marijuana it was below the detectable limit of 1.10.

So its not like there wasn't great news for marijuana as compared to tobacco available commercially. The news article just focused on Ammonia, for some reason. Why? My guess is they wanted to show something bad.

Though Ammonia is a respiratory toxin, I'm not aware of permanent effects as long as you don't go cyanotic, in which case you wouldn't be smoking anything.


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Additionally, the study made no determination as to the comparitive safety. It specifically discounted drawing any conclusions based upon quantitative analysis, for the reason mentioned earlier, that growing conditions vastly change individual samples. That said, the only analytes higher in the marijuana were the nitrogenous compounds, which likely was a result of the marijuana grown.

From the conclusions section:

"The combustion of any plant material will result in a complex mixture of chemicals, the composition and percentages of which depend on a large number of variables. The present study supports previous research (16, 20) and found that marijuana smoke contains qualitatively many of the same chemicals as tobacco smoke. This qualitative similarity is more important when assessing the risks for adverse outcomes than are the differences in level of a particular substance, which can change from sample to sample or from one smoking condition to another. That being said, on a quantitative basis, a number of chemicals were present in marijuana smoke at levels that were substantially higher than in tobacco smoke. For example, NO, NOx, hydrogen cyanide, and aromatic amines were present in marijuana smoke at levels 3−5 times higher than in mainstream tobacco smoke, while ammonia was present at levels 20 times higher than tobacco. Conversely, some compounds such as PAHs, formaldehyde, and acetaldehyde were found at moderately higher levels in tobacco."



So the paper didn't determine marijuana was more dangerous. And indeed it seems less so, considering the much smaller quantities smoked, unless you have such low respiratory reserve that the nitrogenous compounds would effect you substantially..

But anyone curious in finding out about the manner in which the marijuana was grown, can contact the company listed in the materials and methods section.

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Re: Cannabis smoke has 20 times more harmful toxins than tobacco [Re: johnm214]
    #7796404 - 12/24/07 06:54 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)



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Re: Cannabis smoke has 20 times more harmful toxins than tobacco [Re: bodynotdead]
    #7796416 - 12/24/07 07:01 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

It still doesn't change the fact that there have been no reported cases of cancer from smoking marijuana, and no reported deaths solely from marijuana use.


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Re: Cannabis smoke has 20 times more harmful toxins than tobacco [Re: LSDaytripper]
    #7796429 - 12/24/07 07:09 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Yeah... and even if there were... I really don't fucking care... I love weed too much to ever give it up.


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Re: Cannabis smoke has 20 times more harmful toxins than tobacco [Re: Siekoaktiv]
    #7796445 - 12/24/07 07:13 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

thats an ugly looking roach.


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Re: Cannabis smoke has 20 times more harmful toxins than tobacco [Re: ewikk055]
    #7796609 - 12/24/07 08:59 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

i think i smell bullshit. for some odd reason i dont believe a damn word of this. i hate stupid shit like this i love pot and pot loves me legalize love!


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Re: Cannabis smoke has 20 times more harmful toxins than tobacco [Re: bodynotdead]
    #7796810 - 12/24/07 10:16 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

lol, look at all these pot heads not being able to face the truth, how funny!

why not just say "it's unhealthy for me, but im going to do it anyways"?

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Re: Cannabis smoke has 20 times more harmful toxins than tobacco [Re: Crake]
    #7796938 - 12/24/07 10:57 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Crake said:
PS- Damn near EVERYTHING we put into our bodies has some side effect. The choice to use should be considered after every health aspect is weighed out ( so UNLIKE the use of tobacco, why even use it?)... everything comes at a cost.




Actually, tobacco is yet another product that's use can and should be determined after the individual has weighed out health consequences, among various benefits such as taste, amplification of the effects of THC, and one hell of a relaxation/anti-anxiety experience. Read: Tobacco is fucking awesome.

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Re: Cannabis smoke has 20 times more harmful toxins than tobacco [Re: pbskl]
    #7796996 - 12/24/07 11:20 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Tobacco from manufacturers has been enhanced and
cleaned whereas cannabis is relatively unprocessed
and therefore is a much dirtier product.




I find this hard to beleive. I remember reading somewhere that the carcinogen levels in cigarettes have risen steadily over the past few years. I can only imagine the type of "cleaners" they use. And with a reliable source for weed, you only get nice "unprocessed" herb. Which i always thought was a good thing, but propaganda tells me otherwise, so i may be wrong...Haha. I love propaganda, gives me a good laugh every now and then, almost as good as Garfeild.

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Re: Cannabis smoke has 20 times more harmful toxins than tobacco [Re: bodynotdead]
    #7798011 - 12/25/07 11:21 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

What testing methods were used?  Tobacco companies and Tobacco friendly groups have been rigging the testing methods in their favor since the machines have existed.  Why should this be considered any different?  Again big tobacco says nothing of the countless studies that show the opposite.

I think this to be nothing more than pro-tobacco propaganda. Along with valuable lesson in pseudoscience. :thumbdown:


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Re: Cannabis smoke has 20 times more harmful toxins than tobacco [Re: bodynotdead]
    #7798948 - 12/25/07 06:10 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

bodynotdead said:
About a quarter of the population in the UK smokes
tobacco products, while a sixth of 15 to 34-year-olds
have tried cannabis in the past year, making it the most commonly used drug.





Ummm... wouldn't that make tobacco the most widely used drug? (from the information provided in that sentence alone. The actual most widely used drug would like be caffeine)


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Re: Cannabis smoke has 20 times more harmful toxins than tobacco [Re: 2FiNiTe]
    #7800240 - 12/26/07 07:17 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

2FiNiTe said:
What testing methods were used?  Tobacco companies and Tobacco friendly groups have been rigging the testing methods in their favor since the machines have existed.  Why should this be considered any different?  Again big tobacco says nothing of the countless studies that show the opposite.

I think this to be nothing more than pro-tobacco propaganda. Along with valuable lesson in pseudoscience. :thumbdown:




FINALLY some level headed thinking.
YES weed is bad for us in some ways. But more importantly think about the aspects of the legalization of marijuana. How many times have you heard commercials and shit of how tobacco companies since the beginning of time have used not necessarily legit and moral means in order to sell their product. They are most probably putting shit out their like this to shun the legalization of mj being that they are one of the biggest industries that has something to lose if this takes place.
Bravo 2finate finally i find someone with a little goddamn sense.


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Re: Cannabis smoke has 20 times more harmful toxins than tobacco [Re: ashfiken]
    #7800407 - 12/26/07 09:03 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

wtf are you guys talking about?

READ the fucking study before concluding its flawed, biased, or sabotaged.

Apparently you skipped my post above where I quote the studies findings that no determination can be made, that marijuana has far less quantities of heavy metals, and slightly less of almost all carcinogens tested for, even on a mass basis

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Re: Cannabis smoke has 20 times more harmful toxins than tobacco [Re: 2FiNiTe]
    #7800422 - 12/26/07 09:15 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

2FiNiTe said:
What testing methods were used?  Tobacco companies and Tobacco friendly groups have been rigging the testing methods in their favor since the machines have existed.  Why should this be considered any different?  Again big tobacco says nothing of the countless studies that show the opposite.

I think this to be nothing more than pro-tobacco propaganda. Along with valuable lesson in pseudoscience. :thumbdown:




wtf are you talking about?  A link to the study was posted, the smoking materials were measured in the same ways, find the bias, or stfu.

You may impress the "dude science is totally not cool, man" crowd, but untill you find some evidence to back up your speculation no rational mind will care.

If you'd read the study, you'll find marijuana doesn't have 20 times the toxin level of ciggerettes as per this study, and even if it was determined to be so, the study said variations in growing conditions and samples mean this one-source of tobacco and one source of marijuana can not be extrapolated to every tobacco and marijuana crop in the world.

READ mothafucka

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Re: Cannabis smoke has 20 times more harmful toxins than tobacco [Re: johnm214]
    #7800439 - 12/26/07 09:29 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

"Tobacco from manufacturers has been enhanced and
cleaned whereas cannabis is relatively unprocessed
and therefore is a much dirtier product."




What do they mean by "enhanced"?

Quote:

The 600 or so "enhancements":
* Acetanisole
* Acetic Acid
* Acetoin
* Acetophenone
* 6-Acetoxydihydrotheaspirane
* 2-Acetyl-3- Ethylpyrazine
* 2-Acetyl-5-Methylfuran
* Acetylpyrazine
* 2-Acetylpyridine
* 3-Acetylpyridine
* 2-Acetylthiazole
* Aconitic Acid
* dl-Alanine
* Alfalfa Extract
* Allspice Extract,Oleoresin, and Oil
* Allyl Hexanoate
* Allyl Ionone
* Almond Bitter Oil
* Ambergris Tincture
* Ammonia
* Ammonium Bicarbonate
* Ammonium Hydroxide
* Ammonium Phosphate Dibasic
* Ammonium Sulfide
* Amyl Alcohol
* Amyl Butyrate
* Amyl Formate
* Amyl Octanoate
* alpha-Amylcinnamaldehyde
* Amyris Oil
* trans-Anethole
* Angelica Root Extract, Oil and Seed Oil
* Anise
* Anise Star, Extract and Oils
* Anisyl Acetate
* Anisyl Alcohol
* Anisyl Formate
* Anisyl Phenylacetate
* Apple Juice Concentrate, Extract, and Skins
* Apricot Extract and Juice Concentrate
* 1-Arginine
* Asafetida Fluid Extract And Oil
* Ascorbic Acid
* 1-Asparagine Monohydrate
* 1-Aspartic Acid
* Balsam Peru and Oil
* Basil Oil
* Bay Leaf, Oil and Sweet Oil
* Beeswax White
* Beet Juice Concentrate
* Benzaldehyde
* Benzaldehyde Glyceryl Acetal
* Benzoic Acid, Benzoin
* Benzoin Resin
* Benzophenone
* Benzyl Alcohol
* Benzyl Benzoate
* Benzyl Butyrate
* Benzyl Cinnamate
* Benzyl Propionate
* Benzyl Salicylate
* Bergamot Oil
* Bisabolene
* Black Currant Buds Absolute
* Borneol
* Bornyl Acetate
* Buchu Leaf Oil
* 1,3-Butanediol
* 2,3-Butanedione
* 1-Butanol
* 2-Butanone
* 4(2-Butenylidene)-3,5,5-Trimethyl-2-Cyclohexen-1-One
* Butter, Butter Esters, and Butter Oil
* Butyl Acetate
* Butyl Butyrate
* Butyl Butyryl Lactate
* Butyl Isovalerate
* Butyl Phenylacetate
* Butyl Undecylenate
* 3-Butylidenephthalide
* Butyric Acid]
* Cadinene
* Caffeine
* Calcium Carbonate
* Camphene
* Cananga Oil
* Capsicum Oleoresin
* Caramel Color
* Caraway Oil
* Carbon Dioxide
* Cardamom Oleoresin, Extract, Seed Oil, and Powder
* Carob Bean and Extract
* beta-Carotene
* Carrot Oil
* Carvacrol
* 4-Carvomenthenol
* 1-Carvone
* beta-Caryophyllene
* beta-Caryophyllene Oxide
* Cascarilla Oil and Bark Extract
* Cassia Bark Oil
* Cassie Absolute and Oil
* Castoreum Extract, Tincture and Absolute
* Cedar Leaf Oil
* Cedarwood Oil Terpenes and Virginiana
* Cedrol
* Celery Seed Extract, Solid, Oil, And Oleoresin
* Cellulose Fiber
* Chamomile Flower Oil And Extract
* Chicory Extract
* Chocolate
* Cinnamaldehyde
* Cinnamic Acid
* Cinnamon Leaf Oil, Bark Oil, and Extract
* Cinnamyl Acetate
* Cinnamyl Alcohol
* Cinnamyl Cinnamate
* Cinnamyl Isovalerate
* Cinnamyl Propionate
* Citral
* Citric Acid
* Citronella Oil
* dl-Citronellol
* Citronellyl Butyrate
* itronellyl Isobutyrate
* Civet Absolute
* Clary Oil
* Clover Tops, Red Solid Extract
* Cocoa
* Cocoa Shells, Extract, Distillate And Powder
* Coconut Oil
* Coffee
* Cognac White and Green Oil
* Copaiba Oil
* Coriander Extract and Oil
* Corn Oil
* Corn Silk
* Costus Root Oil
* Cubeb Oil
* Cuminaldehyde
* para-Cymene
* 1-Cysteine
* Dandelion Root Solid Extract
* Davana Oil
* 2-trans, 4-trans-Decadienal
* delta-Decalactone
* gamma-Decalactone
* Decanal
* Decanoic Acid
* 1-Decanol
* 2-Decenal
* Dehydromenthofurolactone
* Diethyl Malonate
* Diethyl Sebacate
* 2,3-Diethylpyrazine
* Dihydro Anethole
* 5,7-Dihydro-2-Methylthieno(3,4-D) Pyrimidine
* Dill Seed Oil and Extract
* meta-Dimethoxybenzene
* para-Dimethoxybenzene
* 2,6-Dimethoxyphenol
* Dimethyl Succinate
* 3,4-Dimethyl-1,2 Cyclopentanedione
* 3,5- Dimethyl-1,2-Cyclopentanedione
* 3,7-Dimethyl-1,3,6-Octatriene
* 4,5-Dimethyl-3-Hydroxy-2,5-Dihydrofuran-2-One
* 6,10-Dimethyl-5,9-Undecadien-2-One
* 3,7-Dimethyl-6-Octenoic Acid
* 2,4 Dimethylacetophenone
* alpha,para-Dimethylbenzyl Alcohol
* alpha,alpha-Dimethylphenethyl Acetate
* alpha,alpha Dimethylphenethyl Butyrate
* 2,3-Dimethylpyrazine
* 2,5-Dimethylpyrazine
* 2,6-Dimethylpyrazine
* Dimethyltetrahydrobenzofuranone
* delta-Dodecalactone
* gamma-Dodecalactone
* para-Ethoxybenzaldehyde
* Ethyl 10-Undecenoate
* Ethyl 2-Methylbutyrate
* Ethyl Acetate
* Ethyl Acetoacetate
* Ethyl Alcohol
* Ethyl Benzoate
* Ethyl Butyrate
* Ethyl Cinnamate
* Ethyl Decanoate
* Ethyl Fenchol
* Ethyl Furoate
* Ethyl Heptanoate
* Ethyl Hexanoate
* Ethyl Isovalerate
* Ethyl Lactate
* Ethyl Laurate
* Ethyl Levulinate
* Ethyl Maltol
* Ethyl Methyl Phenylglycidate
* Ethyl Myristate
* Ethyl Nonanoate
* Ethyl Octadecanoate
* Ethyl Octanoate
* Ethyl Oleate
* Ethyl Palmitate
* Ethyl Phenylacetate
* Ethyl Propionate
* Ethyl Salicylate
* Ethyl trans-2-Butenoate
* Ethyl Valerate
* Ethyl Vanillin
* 2-Ethyl (or Methyl)-(3,5 and 6)-Methoxypyrazine
* 2-Ethyl-1-Hexanol, 3-Ethyl -2 -Hydroxy-2-Cyclopenten-1-One
* 2-Ethyl-3, (5 or 6)-Dimethylpyrazine
* 5-Ethyl-3-Hydroxy-4-Methyl-2(5H)-Furanone
* 2-Ethyl-3-Methylpyrazine
* 4-Ethylbenzaldehyde
* 4-Ethylguaiacol
* para-Ethylphenol
* 3-Ethylpyridine
* Eucalyptol
* Farnesol
* D-Fenchone
* Fennel Sweet Oil
* Fenugreek, Extract, Resin, and Absolute
* Fig Juice Concentrate
* Food Starch Modified
* Furfuryl Mercaptan
* 4-(2-Furyl)-3-Buten-2-One
* Galbanum Oil
* Genet Absolute
* Gentian Root Extract
* Geraniol
* Geranium Rose Oil
* Geranyl Acetate
* Geranyl Butyrate
* Geranyl Formate
* Geranyl Isovalerate
* Geranyl Phenylacetate
* Ginger Oil and Oleoresin
* 1-Glutamic Acid
* 1-Glutamine
* Glycerol
* Glycyrrhizin Ammoniated
* Grape Juice Concentrate
* Guaiac Wood Oil
* Guaiacol
* Guar Gum
* 2,4-Heptadienal
* gamma-Heptalactone
* Heptanoic Acid
* 2-Heptanone
* 3-Hepten-2-One
* 2-Hepten-4-One
* 4-Heptenal
* trans -2-Heptenal
* Heptyl Acetate
* omega-6-Hexadecenlactone
* gamma-Hexalactone
* Hexanal
* Hexanoic Acid
* 2-Hexen-1-Ol
* 3-Hexen-1-Ol
* cis-3-Hexen-1-Yl Acetate
* 2-Hexenal
* 3-Hexenoic Acid
* trans-2-Hexenoic Acid
* cis-3-Hexenyl Formate
* Hexyl 2-Methylbutyrate
* Hexyl Acetate
* Hexyl Alcohol
* Hexyl Phenylacetate
* 1-Histidine
* Honey
* Hops Oil
* Hydrolyzed Milk Solids
* Hydrolyzed Plant Proteins
* 5-Hydroxy-2,4-Decadienoic Acid delta- Lactone
* 4-Hydroxy-2,5-Dimethyl-3(2H)-Furanone
* 2-Hydroxy-3,5,5-Trimethyl-2-Cyclohexen-1-One
* 4-Hydroxy -3-Pentenoic Acid Lactone
* 2-Hydroxy-4-Methylbenzaldehyde
* 4-Hydroxybutanoic Acid Lactone
* Hydroxycitronellal
* 6-Hydroxydihydrotheaspirane
* 4-(para-Hydroxyphenyl)-2-Butanone
* Hyssop Oil
* Immortelle Absolute and Extract
* alpha-Ionone
* beta-Ionone
* alpha-Irone
* Isoamyl Acetate
* Isoamyl Benzoate
* Isoamyl Butyrate
* Isoamyl Cinnamate
* Isoamyl Formate, Isoamyl Hexanoate
* Isoamyl Isovalerate
* Isoamyl Octanoate
* Isoamyl Phenylacetate
* Isobornyl Acetate
* Isobutyl Acetate
* Isobutyl Alcohol
* Isobutyl Cinnamate
* Isobutyl Phenylacetate
* Isobutyl Salicylate
* 2-Isobutyl-3-Methoxypyrazine
* alpha-Isobutylphenethyl Alcohol
* Isobutyraldehyde
* Isobutyric Acid
* d,l-Isoleucine
* alpha-Isomethylionone
* 2-Isopropylphenol
* Isovaleric Acid
* Jasmine Absolute, Concrete and Oil
* Kola Nut Extract
* Labdanum Absolute and Oleoresin
* Lactic Acid
* Lauric Acid
* Lauric Aldehyde
* Lavandin Oil
* Lavender Oil
* Lemon Oil and Extract
* Lemongrass Oil
* 1-Leucine
* Levulinic Acid
* Licorice Root, Fluid, Extract and Powder
* Lime Oil
* Linalool
* Linalool Oxide
* Linalyl Acetate
* Linden Flowers
* Lovage Oil And Extract
* 1-Lysine]
* Mace Powder, Extract and Oil
* Magnesium Carbonate
* Malic Acid
* Malt and Malt Extract
* Maltodextrin
* Maltol
* Maltyl Isobutyrate
* Mandarin Oil
* Maple Syrup and Concentrate
* Mate Leaf, Absolute and Oil
* para-Mentha-8-Thiol-3-One
* Menthol
* Menthone
* Menthyl Acetate
* dl-Methionine
* Methoprene
* 2-Methoxy-4-Methylphenol
* 2-Methoxy-4-Vinylphenol
* para-Methoxybenzaldehyde
* 1-(para-Methoxyphenyl)-1-Penten-3-One
* 4-(para-Methoxyphenyl)-2-Butanone
* 1-(para-Methoxyphenyl)-2-Propanone
* Methoxypyrazine
* Methyl 2-Furoate
* Methyl 2-Octynoate
* Methyl 2-Pyrrolyl Ketone
* Methyl Anisate
* Methyl Anthranilate
* Methyl Benzoate
* Methyl Cinnamate
* Methyl Dihydrojasmonate
* Methyl Ester of Rosin, Partially Hydrogenated
* Methyl Isovalerate
* Methyl Linoleate (48%)
* Methyl Linolenate (52%) Mixture
* Methyl Naphthyl Ketone
* Methyl Nicotinate
* Methyl Phenylacetate
* Methyl Salicylate
* Methyl Sulfide
* 3-Methyl-1-Cyclopentadecanone
* 4-Methyl-1-Phenyl-2-Pentanone
* 5-Methyl-2-Phenyl-2-Hexenal
* 5-Methyl-2-Thiophenecarboxaldehyde
* 6-Methyl-3,-5-Heptadien-2-One
* 2-Methyl-3-(para-Isopropylphenyl) Propionaldehyde
* 5-Methyl-3-Hexen-2-One
* 1-Methyl-3Methoxy-4-Isopropylbenzene
* 4-Methyl-3-Pentene-2-One
* 2-Methyl-4-Phenylbutyraldehyde
* 6-Methyl-5-Hepten-2-One
* 4-Methyl-5-Thiazoleethanol
* 4-Methyl-5-Vinylthiazole
* Methyl-alpha-Ionone
* Methyl-trans-2-Butenoic Acid
* 4-Methylacetophenone
* para-Methylanisole
* alpha-Methylbenzyl Acetate
* alpha-Methylbenzyl Alcohol
* 2-Methylbutyraldehyde
* 3-Methylbutyraldehyde
* 2-Methylbutyric Acid
* alpha-Methylcinnamaldehyde
* Methylcyclopentenolone
* 2-Methylheptanoic Acid
* 2-Methylhexanoic Acid
* 3-Methylpentanoic Acid
* 4-Methylpentanoic Acid
* 2-Methylpyrazine
* 5-Methylquinoxaline
* 2-Methyltetrahydrofuran-3-One
* (Methylthio)Methylpyrazine (Mixture Of Isomers)
* 3-Methylthiopropionaldehyde
* Methyl 3-Methylthiopropionate
* 2-Methylvaleric Acid
* Mimosa Absolute and Extract
* Molasses Extract and Tincture
* Mountain Maple Solid Extract
* Mullein Flowers
* Myristaldehyde
* Myristic Acid
* Myrrh Oil
* beta-Napthyl Ethyl Ether
* Nerol
* Neroli Bigarde Oil
* Nerolidol
* Nona-2-trans,6-cis-Dienal
* 2,6-Nonadien-1-Ol
* gamma-Nonalactone
* Nonanal
* Nonanoic Acid
* Nonanone
* trans-2-Nonen-1-Ol
* 2-Nonenal
* Nonyl Acetate
* Nutmeg Powder and Oil
* Oak Chips Extract and Oil
* Oak Moss Absolute
* 9,12-Octadecadienoic Acid (48%) And 9,12,15-Octadecatrienoic Acid (52%)
* delta-Octalactone
* gamma-Octalactone
* Octanal
* Octanoic Acid
* 1-Octanol
* 2-Octanone
* 3-Octen-2-One
* 1-Octen-3-Ol
* 1-Octen-3-Yl Acetate
* 2-Octenal
* Octyl Isobutyrate
* Oleic Acid
* Olibanum Oil
* Opoponax Oil And Gum
* Orange Blossoms Water, Absolute, and Leaf Absolute
* Orange Oil and Extract
* Origanum Oil
* Orris Concrete Oil and Root Extract
* Palmarosa Oil
* Palmitic Acid
* Parsley Seed Oil
* Patchouli Oil
* omega-Pentadecalactone
* 2,3-Pentanedione
* 2-Pentanone
* 4-Pentenoic Acid
* 2-Pentylpyridine
* Pepper Oil, Black And White
* Peppermint Oil
* Peruvian (Bois De Rose) Oil
* Petitgrain Absolute, Mandarin Oil and Terpeneless Oil
* alpha-Phellandrene
* 2-Phenenthyl Acetate
* Phenenthyl Alcohol
* Phenethyl Butyrate
* Phenethyl Cinnamate
* Phenethyl Isobutyrate
* Phenethyl Isovalerate
* Phenethyl Phenylacetate
* Phenethyl Salicylate
* 1-Phenyl-1-Propanol
* 3-Phenyl-1-Propanol
* 2-Phenyl-2-Butenal
* 4-Phenyl-3-Buten-2-Ol
* 4-Phenyl-3-Buten-2-One
* Phenylacetaldehyde
* Phenylacetic Acid
* 1-Phenylalanine
* 3-Phenylpropionaldehyde
* 3-Phenylpropionic Acid
* 3-Phenylpropyl Acetate
* 3-Phenylpropyl Cinnamate
* 2-(3-Phenylpropyl)Tetrahydrofuran
* Phosphoric Acid
* Pimenta Leaf Oil
* Pine Needle Oil, Pine Oil, Scotch
* Pineapple Juice Concentrate
* alpha-Pinene, beta-Pinene
* D-Piperitone
* Piperonal
* Pipsissewa Leaf Extract
* Plum Juice
* Potassium Sorbate
* 1-Proline
* Propenylguaethol
* Propionic Acid
* Propyl Acetate
* Propyl para-Hydroxybenzoate
* Propylene Glycol
* 3-Propylidenephthalide
* Prune Juice and Concentrate
* Pyridine
* Pyroligneous Acid And Extract
* Pyrrole
* Pyruvic Acid
* Raisin Juice Concentrate
* Rhodinol
* Rose Absolute and Oil
* Rosemary Oil
* Rum
* Rum Ether
* Rye Extract
* Sage, Sage Oil, and Sage Oleoresin
* Salicylaldehyde
* Sandalwood Oil, Yellow
* Sclareolide
* Skatole
* Smoke Flavor
* Snakeroot Oil
* Sodium Acetate
* Sodium Benzoate
* Sodium Bicarbonate
* Sodium Carbonate
* Sodium Chloride
* Sodium Citrate
* Sodium Hydroxide
* Solanone
* Spearmint Oil
* Styrax Extract, Gum and Oil
* Sucrose Octaacetate
* Sugar Alcohols
* Sugars
* Tagetes Oil
* Tannic Acid
* Tartaric Acid
* Tea Leaf and Absolute
* alpha-Terpineol
* Terpinolene
* Terpinyl Acetate
* 5,6,7,8-Tetrahydroquinoxaline
* 1,5,5,9-Tetramethyl-13-Oxatricyclo(8.3.0.0(4,9))Tridecane
* 2,3,4,5, and 3,4,5,6-Tetramethylethyl-Cyclohexanone
* 2,3,5,6-Tetramethylpyrazine
* Thiamine Hydrochloride
* Thiazole
* 1-Threonine
* Thyme Oil, White and Red
* Thymol
* Tobacco Extracts
* Tochopherols (mixed)
* Tolu Balsam Gum and Extract
* Tolualdehydes
* para-Tolyl 3-Methylbutyrate
* para-Tolyl Acetaldehyde
* para-Tolyl Acetate
* para-Tolyl Isobutyrate
* para-Tolyl Phenylacetate
* Triacetin
* 2-Tridecanone
* 2-Tridecenal
* Triethyl Citrate
* 3,5,5-Trimethyl -1-Hexanol
* para,alpha,alpha-Trimethylbenzyl Alcohol
* 4-(2,6,6-Trimethylcyclohex-1-Enyl)But-2-En-4-One
* 2,6,6-Trimethylcyclohex-2-Ene-1,4-Dione
* 2,6,6-Trimethylcyclohexa-1,3-Dienyl Methan
* 4-(2,6,6-Trimethylcyclohexa-1,3-Dienyl)But-2-En-4-One
* 2,2,6-Trimethylcyclohexanone
* 2,3,5-Trimethylpyrazine
* 1-Tyrosine
* delta-Undercalactone
* gamma-Undecalactone
* Undecanal
* 2-Undecanone, 1
* 0-Undecenal
* Urea
* Valencene
* Valeraldehyde
* Valerian Root Extract, Oil and Powder
* Valeric Acid
* gamma-Valerolactone
* Valine
* Vanilla Extract And Oleoresin
* Vanillin
* Veratraldehyde
* Vetiver Oil
* Vinegar
* Violet Leaf Absolute
* Walnut Hull Extract
* Water
* Wheat Extract And Flour
* Wild Cherry Bark Extract
* Wine and Wine Sherry
* Xanthan Gum
* 3,4-Xylenol
* Yeast





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Re: Cannabis smoke has 20 times more harmful toxins than tobacco [Re: Chi Ro]
    #7800561 - 12/26/07 10:42 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I can't help but wonder how they can say it causes cancer when no one has ever gotten cancer from smoking Marijuana. Don't even get me started on the fact that Marijuana smoke has been proven to inhibit lung cancer cells in mice.

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Re: Cannabis smoke has 20 times more harmful toxins than tobacco [Re: Cannabischarlie]
    #7800589 - 12/26/07 10:54 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

um... cuz products plant matter combustion are carcinogenic?

Don't confuse whether something causes or has caused cancer with saying something has been proven to cause cancer.

Tobacco hasn't been proven to cause cancer in an experiment in humans, yet I'd feel pretty safe saying it does.

Same w/ marijuana. No it hasn't been proven, but how can you say it hasn't happened?

Science and logic is about what you can observe, not about what you think might kinda be true (I've not seen something therefore it doesn't exist= marijuana hasn't been proven to cause cancer therefore it doesn't cause cancer)

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