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Patriots and 16-0
#7796212 - 12/24/07 05:12 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Will most likely happen if Belicheck decides to use his starters.
It will take an absolutely uncharacteristic game for the Giants to outperform the pats.
But that's not to say they don't have the tools. They have a sick pass rush, but a pretty lousey pass defense.
Brady will rip them apart. And then he will go home and make love to his supermodel wife.
oh yeah...and there's this:
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AaronEvil said: They wont 16-0 (no team ever has)and they wont win the Superbowl
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LiquidSmoke said: Will most likely happen if Belicheck decides to use his starters.
It will take an absolutely uncharacteristic game for the Giants to outperform the pats.
But that's not to say they don't have the tools. They have a sick pass rush, but a pretty lousey pass defense.
Brady will rip them apart. And then he will go home and make love to his supermodel wife.
Well i just put $110 dollars on NYG to come within 14.5 points... I think they have enough firepower to do so... just hope their defense can come through at stopping big plays. My guess, pats will go 16-0, if not 19-0 for the championship, and that would rock if they did.
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Well for your sake they better not win next week, otherwise I think its only fitting that you put up a Patriots avatar for your logo to save face.
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Re: Patriots and 16-0 [Re: ManianFH]
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Well i just put $110 dollars on NYG to come within 14.5 points... I think they have enough firepower to do so... just hope their defense can come through at stopping big plays. My guess, pats will go 16-0, if not 19-0 for the championship, and that would rock if they did.
Hahaha, if Eli plays how he has, i won't call it "firepower"
it really sucks they lost Steve Smith in the preseason. He was looking pretty damn good.
Next year they're going to be good if Eli can just get it together.
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eli definitely hasnt been stellar this season but he did get kinda screwed by weather last game
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Re: Patriots and 16-0 [Re: ManianFH]
#7804961 - 12/27/07 06:12 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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I think they'll beat the Giants and go 16-0, and they will win the Super Bowl IF they make it that far, which is a major question for me.
Despite being a team that plays in an open stadium where the winters can be harsh and snowy they are a team designed to play inside, or in nice weather.
Hell, even the Jets gave them a scare in snowy weather, and now they have to play two games against top level teams at Foxboro in January. It's gonna be tough.
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Re: Patriots and 16-0 [Re: Ziggen]
#7811613 - 12/29/07 08:10 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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oh snap
giants turning it on!!!!!
i'd love to see the pats lose....LOVE to see it.
FUCK the pats.
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beating the pats in the sb > game 16
its not a perfect season if you dont win the sb.
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16-0
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i hope they lose the super bowl
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Re: Patriots and 16-0 [Re: Atheist]
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That was an awesome game to watch. The second long pass to Moss was brilliant.
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Re: Patriots and 16-0 [Re: Redstorm]
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I cant believe the Giants lost with the lead they had.
I didnt get to see most of the game but I heard Eli had a good game.
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Re: Patriots and 16-0 [Re: AaronEvil]
#7813698 - 12/30/07 01:39 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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/me brandishes his digital steelers jpg logo 
eli looked great actually
i think it's strange because sometimes he shows these glimpses of greatness (seriously), but he's very inconsistent, starts throwing picks and shit.
I think they'll only get better next year, dude did you notice how many injuries occured in their second preseason game? In ONE HALF, Brandon Jacobs suffers a mild concussion, Will Demps dislocates his elbow, and Steve Smith rips his achilles while making a sick catch.
I think Steve Smith (the other one) is going to be a fucking SOLID player next year. Just a really fucking fast and massively good catching reciever.
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Lets not jump the gun. The Pats still have to win their one Playoff game for you to win the wager. Though with the Chargers in the 3rd seat now... they will probably make it to the AFC Championship game. Steelers, Browns and Titans are not that good. For your sake, I hope the Steelers win. I dont think you would mind having a chargers logo if your team is the one that beats the Pats.
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Re: Patriots and 16-0 [Re: AaronEvil]
#7814639 - 12/30/07 05:53 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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hey!!! i said i'm brandishing it.
I haven't pulled the icky shuffle just yet...
but it is a win win situation. you pats hater.
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Lol. I dislike the Steelers more than the Pats, but I dont think the Pats deserve to win the Superbowl this year. Id like to see a classy team get the undefeated season with a Superbowl win.
But like I said, I will be pulling for your Steelers if they make it to that game.
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Re: Patriots and 16-0 [Re: AaronEvil]
#7815642 - 12/31/07 12:29 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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I still haven't seen a legitimate reason why the Patriots are classless.
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Re: Patriots and 16-0 [Re: AaronEvil]
#7815909 - 12/31/07 03:21 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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i'll be satisfied if the team can just win the wild card round.
i don't expect much else. gawd they just lost it towards the end of this season
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Re: Patriots and 16-0 [Re: Redstorm]
#7815916 - 12/31/07 03:27 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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the pats are classless because they're brutal to teams.
they fuckin' fuck shit up beyond fuckdom. I've seen what they did to my team. It hurt man...it hurt.
fucking classless cocksuckers
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Lol its not running up the scores that bothers me. Its the off field stuff. The talking shit to teams they beat. Its classless. I think it was Rodney Harrison (ex san diego player) who said something like they run up the score to give the other teams a chance to stop them. Thats stupid. I think they have one of the best (if not the best) coaches that has ever been in the NFL, yet he is a moron for playing his starters when they are up by 30 points. He is LUCKY... ill say it again, LUCKY, that no one got injured.
But hey, if they do make it to the AFC Championship game I hope they meet the Chargers or Colts there and I hope they lose. I wanted them to win last year during pre-season but they werent assholes then (at least not in public).
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Re: Patriots and 16-0 [Re: AaronEvil]
#7818769 - 01/01/08 12:16 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Just like they aren't assholes now.
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Re: Patriots and 16-0 [Re: AaronEvil]
#7819331 - 01/01/08 09:01 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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There's nothing wrong with cockiness; it's always been a part of sport. Rodney Harrison is a particularly cocky player.
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Re: Patriots and 16-0 [Re: Redstorm]
#7819641 - 01/01/08 11:03 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Redstorm said: Just like they aren't assholes now.
They are assholes. Maybe watch some of their games. Im not a fan of arguing with refs when you are winning by 20+ points and you throw an incomplete pass due to good coverage, especially when its like 2 and 3.
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Re: Patriots and 16-0 [Re: AaronEvil]
#7819677 - 01/01/08 11:13 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Every team does that, but you just don't notice because other teams aren't usually beating their opponents silly almost every game.
The blind hatred against the Patriots this season cracks me up. It's about on par with the homerism and bandwagoning going on.
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Re: Patriots and 16-0 [Re: Redstorm]
#7820677 - 01/01/08 04:36 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Its not blind hatred, its not even hatred. Its distaste and dislike. You just dont notice because you brush things off that people like me dont. "Every team does that," is your reasoning because it doesnt bother you. It bothers me. But along the same lines some people like the fact they play all their starters all the time and score ridiculous amounts of points just to say they can do it, I dont like that. I dont see how it is sportsman like for a team to do that.
Im not asking you to understand, I am telling you I dont like what they have become.
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Re: Patriots and 16-0 [Re: AaronEvil]
#7820691 - 01/01/08 04:40 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Sports aren't a circle jerk of good sportsmanship, regardless of what your parents told you when you were a child.
Sports are and have always been about dominating one's opponent. To think otherwise is nothing short of delusion.
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Re: Patriots and 16-0 [Re: Redstorm]
#7820700 - 01/01/08 04:42 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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My point exactely, you dont understand where I am coming from. Stop trying. We disagree about people showing sportsmanship. I think running up the score is about the same as Haynseworth (however its spelt) stepping on the dudes head. Its the same lack of sportsmanship that needs to change.
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Re: Patriots and 16-0 [Re: AaronEvil]
#7820706 - 01/01/08 04:45 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Not a good analogy. Stepping on someone's head can seriously injure them, while the only thing that's gonna be hurt when someone gets 60 hung on them is their pride.
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Re: Patriots and 16-0 [Re: AaronEvil]
#7820795 - 01/01/08 05:12 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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all the reasons you're using to sight your hate for the patriots, are things that ALMOST EVERY TEAM IN THE NFL does or has done at one point or another.
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Re: Patriots and 16-0 [Re: AaronEvil]
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MAn, you are ridiculous. All these players get paid roughly the same amount of money. If they can't stop the Pats then they need to work harder or get better players. There is a salary cap in the NFL, it's not like the Pats are the Yankees and paying individual players more than entire team bankrolls are.
It's not like it's an NFL team against a college team, although many times it has looked like it. What I would say to the players that complain about them running the score up against them is.... Stop them, and if you can't stop them then stop fucking whining like some god damn faggot. Maybe you and your team doesn't deserve to be in the NFL, go back to college, maybe you can compete there.
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Re: Patriots and 16-0 [Re: Redstorm]
#7820842 - 01/01/08 05:25 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Redstorm said: Not a good analogy. Stepping on someone's head can seriously injure them, while the only thing that's gonna be hurt when someone gets 60 hung on them is their pride.
I said its the same lack of sportsmanship. Obviously on a physically harmful level stepping on someones head is a more serious offense. But I am referencing sportsmanship not the seriousness of injuries and how they can occur.
As for me being ridiculous, would you want a guy to keep beating on another guy in the boxing ring for a full 10 rounds even if the guy was knocked out in the 1st round? Give him 10 chances to get back up and win? That logic doesnt make sense in boxing and it doesnt make sense to play your starters for full games when you are winning by 30+ points. The only reason they do that shit is to break records and be considered for the HOF (which they should be considered for anyway). But, its the principle.
I dont expect a bunch of guys on this forum to understand. Its not primarily a sports forum. You are homers not sports fans.
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Re: Patriots and 16-0 [Re: AaronEvil]
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Did you seriously just compare getting bashed in the head repeatedly in a boxing match to playing football? Cmon now, even you must see the stupidity of such a statement. Allowing a boxing match to continue when someone is obviously done for is life threatening, continuing a football game is not. You need to pick a better analogy.
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Re: Patriots and 16-0 [Re: AaronEvil]
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I dont expect a bunch of guys on this forum to understand. Its not primarily a sports forum. You are homers not sports fans.

Don't act like you're some intellectual powerhouse. You haven't even made a legitimate point yet. Have you notice no one agrees with you? Perhaps it's not us who are the homers, huh?
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Re: Patriots and 16-0 [Re: Redstorm]
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As for me being ridiculous, would you want a guy to keep beating on another guy in the boxing ring for a full 10 rounds even if the guy was knocked out in the 1st round? Give him 10 chances to get back up and win? That logic doesnt make sense in boxing and it doesnt make sense to play your starters for full games when you are winning by 30+ points.
Another outrageous comparison.
For your boxing scenario to make any sense, you would have to argue that like a boxer who gets knocked out in the first round, the team who is down 28 after the first quarter should just concede defeat.
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Re: Patriots and 16-0 [Re: AaronEvil]
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As for me being ridiculous, would you want a guy to keep beating on another guy in the boxing ring for a full 10 rounds even if the guy was knocked out in the 1st round? Give him 10 chances to get back up and win? That logic doesnt make sense in boxing and it doesnt make sense to play your starters for full games when you are winning by 30+ points. The only reason they do that shit is to break records and be considered for the HOF (which they should be considered for anyway). But, its the principle.
that was a really horrible analogy
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Re: Patriots and 16-0 [Re: AaronEvil]
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I dont expect a bunch of guys on this forum to understand. Its not primarily a sports forum. You are homers not sports fans.
i don't think you realize just how stupidly rediculous you sound
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He seems to find some equivalence in a certain imaginary universe (i.e. the "sportsmanship" universe) between being butthurt and being shot. Extraordinarily perverse.
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Re: Patriots and 16-0 [Re: zappaisgod]
#7821079 - 01/01/08 06:29 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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if you disagree with his opinion, it's because you're not a real sports fan
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You're obviously quite right. It must be because I have actually been a participant, and thus cognizant of the sportsmanship difference between getting my ass kicked on the scoreboard and being at the wrong end of a cheap shot, that makes me a stupid, ersatz fan. He is clearly much more in tune with harmonic sportsmanship vibrations than I am.
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Re: Patriots and 16-0 [Re: zappaisgod]
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you lack the proper mental "chi" to understand and comprehend watching football at the level he does.
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Re: Patriots and 16-0 [Re: zappaisgod]
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Lets play a game called "miss the point," you go first.
Oops, I lose.
Way to fail again. Maybe read my post before judging what has been said. I didnt compare getting killed in a boxing match to running up the score, I compared the sportsmanship of the two. Get out of your one track "Patriots get me off," mind set.
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Re: Patriots and 16-0 [Re: AaronEvil]
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That's just the thing though, you cannot compare the sportsmanship of a potentially life threatening sport to one that has a dramatically lower percentage of serious injury. They are sports that are on two different levels.
Don't you think that if there was even a shred of rationality in your argument, that at least one person here would agree with what you are saying? I'm not even sure why I am bothering arguing with you. Usually I stay out of these arguments because I can see things both ways, but not here. You are wrong. Everyone knows it but you. Lay off the drugs, or something.
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Re: Patriots and 16-0 [Re: Deadmaker]
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I'm a former football player (not pro, but D III) who has been on both sides of blowouts, and I am a Lions fan, a team that has been on the receiving end of many brutal beatings recently.
The whole point of football (and any sport where points are scored and the team with the most wins) is to score as many points as you can, and to prevent your opponent from scoring. Your opponent is trying to do the same thing to you. It is rarely personal. But to not score all you can is stupid, because teams are capable of coming back. My Lions scored 38 points in the 4th quarter of a game this year to beat the Bears.
A team (especially at the professional level) cannot let up, because if they do the other team can and will take advantage. I have seen some crazy comebacks that seemed impossible, as have most people.
I think that it would actually be more disrespectful of the Patriots to let up on teams, like some Pop Warner team in a league with a mercy rule as if to say, "you guys really suck, and we don't even respect you enough to worry that you might come back."
Also, they have this thing in the NFL called a tiebreaker. If two teams are tied with a record at the end of the season one of the first tie-breakers is total point differential.
In many league (D1A most famously) your record doesn't matter nearly as much as how good your team is perceived as being by other coaches and the media. A really good way to climb ranks at that level is to beat up on teams.
Any team that doesn't want to get beat up by another team needs to get better. That's all there is to it.
To anyone whose pussy hurts because the Patriots are beating other teams to badly, I quote what Don Corleone said to Johnny Fontane:
"You can act like a man! [slap] What's the matter with you?"
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Saturday, Jan. 12 at 8:00 p.m.
Yeah i been saying the same thing, were lucky there were no injuries
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you Pats haters can say whatever you want
guess what, i'm also a pats hater, i've seen them beat my team in the AFC championship game FOUR TIMES in the past decade.
If that doesn't generate burning hate for a team, i don't know WHAT does.
But it's the same thing as when i was a Dallas hater (again they beat us in the SB), but it didn't stop me from acknowledging just how amazing of a team they were.
The patriots, are probably, the best team to ever touch the field within modern time.
And Brady, has been playing QB like nobody else has seen it been done. The records, stats, and all those Randy Moss highlights speak for themselves.
And if you still disagree with this, then you're basically disagreeing with Steve Young and Dan Marino, who both, on several occasions, have acknowledged Brady's accomplishments this year as all time bests.
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"your also a pats hater, and you think they are the best team to ever touch the field in modern time"
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I'm a Pats hater. Fuckin' obnoxious Masshole sports fans all suck, and I love to see their teams lose. I think, though, that anyone who is honest with themselves, Pats hater or not, has to acknowledge the greatness of this team.
Any team with a quarterback the caliber of Tom Brady, and where Dante Stalworth is the 3rd or 4th receiver is gonna give any defense fits.
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Re: Patriots and 16-0 [Re: Ziggen]
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Well what the hell are you two talking about? "A Pats hater but love the team" Well idk, whatev, i hope you enjoy their game...... And them in the superbowl....
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Re: Patriots and 16-0 [Re: Ziggen]
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I want to say two things... one, you dont get additional credibility because you played football. Just like I dont get additional credit when I talk about hockey because I used to play it.
The thing I will say is that I think College blowouts and NFL blowouts are different. In highschool and college you NEED the stats so you can progress into higher levels of the sport. Starters are rarely benched (when healthy) in college because the ultimate goal is to get players drafted into the NFL by winning games. There is also a huge difference in momentum in college vs. NFL. In college a 30 point deficit is a lot smaller (in terms of ease to make up) than in the NFL. So other than breaking records, what is the point of running up a score? Is there any other reason in the NFL? I challenge you to find one. "Both teams are trying to blow eachother out of the water," is a fuckin piss poor argument since most teams sit their starters with a big lead. Its logical since the end goal of the NFL is to win the SB. You can win 16 regular season games and still not win the SB because you played your starters too much. I see it happening (although until now I have been wrong about Brady or Moss getting injured. As well as Peyton, I thought for sure he was going to get injured this season with the new LT.)
But hey, I believe in sportsmanship, you dont. Its not an arguement. Its an opinion that we obviously dont share. I know plenty of people that agree and disagree with me on the issue. I dont expect a bunch of Shroomery forum goers to share my opinions, but it wont stop me from expressing or defending them. We are not on a sports forum and I would venture to say very few of us actually visit sports forums (us meaning shroomerites in general). We'll see what happens. I can admit when I am wrong but this issue I feel 100% that I am not wrong.
Though I may be wrong about NE winning the SB, only time will tell. I just hope that if they dont win you will all admit you were wrong and not pull the "[insert team name here] was lucky." I can see that happening. I admit if they make it to the AFC Championship game and win the SB that I am wrong. You should all do the same if you are wrong. Just man it up if the games do not go the way your guru minds think it will.
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SheerTerror said: Well what the hell are you two talking about? "A Pats hater but love the team" Well idk, whatev, i hope you enjoy their game...... And them in the superbowl....
are you really confused?
You can hate a team and still acknowledge their greatness. Like when people root mayweather to lose.
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Sounds like your confused. You hate the pats and you just acknowledge their greatness, ok well your just acknowledging they're greatness? I figured if you would acknowledge it you would appreciate the team and all the players talent and follow every one of there games. If they are the greatest team in the sport you into, why hate them and follow some local high school football team instead????????
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I hate the Patriots and think they are the best team ever.
And I'm a huge Bears fan, so putting them over the '85 team is saying alot for me.
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The boys will stomp the pats in the SB.
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Re: Patriots and 16-0 [Re: Cowgold]
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pats<GB ----- thats how I would like to see it; GL Favre. Even NE>GB would be cool because I like the patriots, I wouldnt mind if they went 48-0 and won 3 sb in a raw, that would be hilarious, and I would win a shit ton of money.
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Re: Patriots and 16-0 [Re: ManianFH]
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i would like to see the pats play the 94' 49ers, i think they'd give them a run for their money. covering moss wouldn't be as much of an issue either as they had deion sanders easily the greatest cover corner ever. just one-on-one those two and alot of the patriots offensive advantage is taken away.
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your inability to comprehend the concept of respecting an enemy is pretty hilarious
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But... but... you have to hate and disrespect everyone not on your team, don't you?!
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Re: Patriots and 16-0 [Re: Jadian]
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OMG how can u say u respect dem but u hate dem TOO MUCH FOR MY BRAIN
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So you're actually telling me you can dislike a team, and still appreciate what they've done over the course of an amazing season?
BLASPHEMY!
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Re: Patriots and 16-0 [Re: Jadian]
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Re: Patriots and 16-0 [Re: Jadian]
#7829484 - 01/03/08 08:40 PM (16 years, 29 days ago) |
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All arguments here are the same. We all have reasons for loving/hating teams. Run up points?? Talking smack?? Pats win the SB and have the ultimate perfect season? or they get man-handled by a competitor on the way that no one believed could do it??
So, rather than say "this is the way it will/should be" I will explain what I want to see in the coming playoff games this weekend:
Obviously from my avatar I am a Chargers fan. I want San Diego to beat the Titans and I feel they have the tools to do so. The X factor in this game is if Rivers has a good game or a shitty one for the Bolts. It seems like he can randomly play great ball or just stinks the whole joint up.
I want to see the Bucs beat the Giants. Main reason: I hate Ellie May Manning. I believe the Bucs have the edge for one simple reason: Shockey has a broken leg.
I want to see the Redskins beat the Seahawks. This will be a tight one for sure. I am rooting for the 'Skins simply because they are the clear overall underdog in the NFC. It is fun to root for an underdog, particularly in a conference I have no other rooting interests for.
I want to see Jacksonville beat the Steelers. Again, as a Chargers fan I want the team with the best ability and physicalness to square off with the Pats in the next round of the playoffs. Jacksonville is smoking hot right now and the steam seems to have fizzled out of the Steelers.
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Re: Patriots and 16-0 [Re: Jadian]
#7835247 - 01/05/08 12:01 PM (16 years, 27 days ago) |
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Jadian said: So you're actually telling me you can dislike a team, and still appreciate what they've done over the course of an amazing season?
Yeah, it's very possible to do that.
Here's an example from college football: I'm a Fresno State fan, so I absolutely HATE Boise State. I was pissed off watching them win the Fiesta Bowl last year and I'm even more pissed off after seeing them in every "best of 2007" countdown last week.
Despite that, I have to admit that what they did was very impressive and made for the greatest college football game ever. Doesn't mean I don't still hate them, but I have to give them credit for what they did last year.
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Oh yeah, regarding the Pats running up the score - NFL Network showed a full replay of the amazing 1993 Bills-Oilers wildcard game last night. That game should be required viewing for anyone whining about the Patriots not backing off when they're ahead.
With 13:19 remaining in the 3rd quarter, the Oilers ran back an interception for a TD to make the score 35-3. The Bills had 75 total yards at that point, the Oilers had at least 219, plus the int return.
The Bills outscored the Oilers 28-7 in the 3rd quarter and ended up winning the game 41-38 in OT. The Bills outgained the Oilers 206-19 in that quarter.
You never know what can happen in an NFL game. After watching that game again, I can't fault any team for keeping their foot on the gas for the entire 60 minutes.
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Im not saying they shouldnt try to score still. They should take their key starters out and put backups in to lower the risk of injury. The only reason to keep you starters in with a score that high is if you are trying to get stats. If the score becomes increasingly closer (like a 21 point lead instead of a 28) put your starters back in.
I will admit that I did go back and look at the Pats season on a game by game basis and they really only ran the score up 3 times. So, to my discredit it wasnt as bad as I made it out to be.
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Guess I should have bumped the sarcasm level up a little higher.
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Re: Patriots and 16-0 [Re: Jadian]
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Jadian said: Guess I should have bumped the sarcasm level up a little higher.
Aw hell, I was skimming through and quoted the wrong person. I guess it was SheerTerror who didn't think you could hate a team and respect them at the same time. Sorry about that.
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belligerent said: 1993 Bills-Oilers wildcard game last night. That game should be required viewing for anyone whining about the Patriots not backing off when they're ahead.
With 13:19 remaining in the 3rd quarter, the Oilers ran back an interception for a TD to make the score 35-3. The Bills had 75 total yards at that point, the Oilers had at least 219, plus the int return.
The Bills outscored the Oilers 28-7 in the 3rd quarter and ended up winning the game 41-38 in OT. The Bills outgained the Oilers 206-19 in that quarter.
You never know what can happen in an NFL game. After watching that game again, I can't fault any team for keeping their foot on the gas for the entire 60 minutes.
Greatest game ever. I think there was a game this year when the cunting Cowboys scored 14 in the last minute or so and beat the Bills. At any rate, the whole "Sportsmanship equivalency" being espoused by the fool is flat out stupid. There are, in fact, many things that are more unsportsmanlike than "running up" the score. Like stomping on a guys head. With a skate. And cheating.
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Re: Patriots and 16-0 [Re: Jadian]
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Jadian said: Guess I should have bumped the sarcasm level up a little higher.
hahahahah i was reading his response like "wtf"
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