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What The Hell Exactly Is A Genius?
    #7794841 - 12/24/07 06:55 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I mean, Einstein is reported to be a Genius; He saw something no one else did, with enough results to make it useful.

John Lennon said something of the sort that he did not believe there as geniuses.

Can you have an idea that IS genius, but you yourself are not a genius? Musicians might frequent this definition.

Is the whole idea behind a Genius subjective, or are there benchmarks one could use to discern whether it is exceptional or Genius?

Are any of these people Geniuses, to you: Timothy Leary, R. Crumb, Einstein, John Lennon, Da Vinci, Bill Hicks...

To me, I guess there is no such thing as a Genius, only works of Genius. That is my current stand, a decision I made that works for me, and it'd be cool to hear what other people think of the concept of what and who a Genius is and does.

Genius is like a realm you travel to if you are lucky and come back with something if you are even luckier. Everyone is inherently a Genius at something or at some time, for I feel we have all had a taste of that realm.

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Re: What The Hell Exactly Is A Genius? [Re: Apollyphelion]
    #7794850 - 12/24/07 07:12 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

What the hell is intelligence?

To quantify genius you need to quantify intelligence

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1. Extraordinary intellectual and creative power.
2. A person of extraordinary intellect and talent: “One is not born a genius, one becomes a genius” (Simone de Beauvoir).
3. A person who has an exceptionally high intelligence quotient, typically above 140.




This whole concept of intelligence is subjective.. The way we quantify it is by a series of logic / memory / math tests.. yet I feel there is much more to intelligence than the ability to solve problems. I feel the most intelligent people in the world have artistic tendancies, as this allows you to view the world from 2 different standpoints (and also approached problems from 'bizarre' angles, much like Einstein did).

The more intelligent people in the world are the ones that can view something from multiple perspectives, which is often why 'intelligent' people appear to lack common sense; as they have some sort of genetic predisposition to go the more complex route and not consider the others.

Intelligence is diversity of thought, IMO.


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Re: What The Hell Exactly Is A Genius? [Re: Cepheus]
    #7794952 - 12/24/07 08:40 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Thank you for the intelligent reply!

Mostly, probably entirely, we are on the same page about everything.

I mainly made this thread just to experience a thought process, think about some of my heroes, and see what other people have to say about the concepts of intelligence/genius.

My hat goes off to you, Cepheus! Keep on rockin' that awesome brain, lest ye have a chance for a newer better one. Let me know where you bought it.


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Re: What The Hell Exactly Is A Genius? [Re: Apollyphelion]
    #7794971 - 12/24/07 08:54 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Read Aleister Crowley's Book 4

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Re: What The Hell Exactly Is A Genius? [Re: fissionchips]
    #7795011 - 12/24/07 09:17 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

What is a genius?

I am.

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Re: What The Hell Exactly Is A Genius? [Re: memes]
    #7795070 - 12/24/07 09:39 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

We is all fuckin' mutherfukin' supra-gene-ius's bitchesxxx and Hoes!

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Re: What The Hell Exactly Is A Genius? [Re: Apollyphelion]
    #7795130 - 12/24/07 10:00 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I heard that genius is the ability to simplify what is complex. so if you can do that you're in good shape ;p


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Re: What The Hell Exactly Is A Genius? [Re: ManianFH]
    #7795149 - 12/24/07 10:08 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Simply Theoretical: The Ultimate Act of Genius may be a simple means of simplifying anything complex!


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Re: What The Hell Exactly Is A Genius? [Re: Apollyphelion]
    #7795194 - 12/24/07 10:29 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

intelligence should be pretty easy to define. unless your stupid. in which case you probably wont be able to define either.

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Re: What The Hell Exactly Is A Genius? [Re: moon_glue]
    #7795198 - 12/24/07 10:33 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

:lol:

Have you seen Idiocracy?


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Re: What The Hell Exactly Is A Genius? [Re: moon_glue]
    #7795202 - 12/24/07 10:35 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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intelligence should be pretty easy to define. unless your stupid. in which case you probably wont be able to define either.



and yet - you, yourself, don't seem to have much of a definition with that answer  :smirk:


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Re: What The Hell Exactly Is A Genius? [Re: Apollyphelion]
    #7795207 - 12/24/07 10:39 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I is smart.


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Re: What The Hell Exactly Is A Genius? [Re: Muppet]
    #7795215 - 12/24/07 10:42 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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Quote:

moon_glue said:
intelligence should be pretty easy to define. unless your stupid. in which case you probably wont be able to define either.



and yet - you, yourself, don't seem to have much of a definition with that answer  :smirk:




Muppet coming out of left field with logic! Holy Shit!;-)


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Re: What The Hell Exactly Is A Genius? [Re: Apollyphelion]
    #7795222 - 12/24/07 10:44 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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Muppet coming out of left field with logic! Holy Shit!;-)



savor the moment


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Re: What The Hell Exactly Is A Genius? [Re: Muppet]
    #7795224 - 12/24/07 10:46 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I took a picture of my monitor, using a kodak camera.

I'm going to hang it up, and next time I trip on Acid, I'm going to divine it.

You are God to me right now! :hairmetal:


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Re: What The Hell Exactly Is A Genius? [Re: Apollyphelion]
    #7795296 - 12/24/07 11:15 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)



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Re: What The Hell Exactly Is A Genius? [Re: circularvortex]
    #7795317 - 12/24/07 11:24 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

The best definition of genius is you know it when you see it.

Think of a guitar solo, something that someone said, a work of art, a piece of architecture, a story, or a poem that changed your life. That's what geniuses do for society.

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Re: What The Hell Exactly Is A Genius? [Re: Apollyphelion]
    #7797322 - 12/25/07 02:21 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Apollyphelion said:
:lol:

Have you seen Idiocracy?




No, never thought the movie would have anything to do with the subject. Is it worth seeing?


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Re: What The Hell Exactly Is A Genius? [Re: Apollyphelion]
    #7797379 - 12/25/07 03:23 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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Apollyphelion said:
To me, I guess there is no such thing as a Genius, only works of Genius.




That makes a lot of sense to me. Some of the brightest, near "genius" people I've met can be really dumb sometimes.

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Re: What The Hell Exactly Is A Genius? [Re: Apollyphelion]
    #7797468 - 12/25/07 05:00 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

> What The Hell Exactly Is A Genius?

Somebody that is much better at something than the average of the population. This doesn't mean that a genius is smart. You might have a guy that is dumber than a brick that is a genius at shooting free throws. Usually, when somebody excels in one area, they have a deficit in another.


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Re: What The Hell Exactly Is A Genius? [Re: Seuss]
    #7797473 - 12/25/07 05:03 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Alright, dog, so would you say a Savant would be someone with an even wilder swing in one direction?:stokebeard:

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