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Re: Did i finally find Cyans..... [Re: cactu]
    #7797932 - 12/25/07 10:38 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Unless i'm feeling suicidal and don't care if i die (most likely not gonna happen):) I don't think i'm gonna take the chance and eat them because they're all to dry now to see which ones were blueing, I'll upload some pics of the spore print from the suspected cyans in a bit.


Any idea what the second species is? It had a rust brown spore print.


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Re: Did i finally find Cyans..... [Re: randy420rhoads]
    #7798071 - 12/25/07 11:49 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

> Any idea what the second species is? It had a rust brown spore print.

Probably a Gymnopilus species. It also looks like Hypholoma fasciculare, but that is toxic and has a purple brown spore print.


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Re: Did i finally find Cyans..... [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #7800590 - 12/26/07 10:54 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

us pros would even be able to tell if their cyans from dried samples.
Take some f'n pics. This would be big news for us central valley folk and auweia wish would come true. He doesnt want us valley folk coming and taking his bay area mushrooms.


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Re: Did i finally find Cyans..... [Re: tahoe]
    #7800654 - 12/26/07 11:26 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Amazing what a difference the bright morning sun makes in pictures. Spore print looks purple brown to me:thumbup: Don't know what dried cyans look like but there's still visible blue on them.






















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Re: Did i finally find Cyans..... [Re: randy420rhoads]
    #7800663 - 12/26/07 11:29 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

they are close but i can not give them the okay. very possibly can be cyans but.......


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Re: Did i finally find Cyans..... [Re: tahoe]
    #7800697 - 12/26/07 11:38 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

What's up with this Hypholoma fasciculare. "but that is toxic and has a purple brown spore print" could these be them?


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Re: Did i finally find Cyans..... [Re: randy420rhoads]
    #7800761 - 12/26/07 12:08 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)



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Re: Did i finally find Cyans..... [Re: CureCat]
    #7800783 - 12/26/07 12:21 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Edit: deinately NOT Hypholoma fasciculare


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Re: Did i finally find Cyans..... [Re: randy420rhoads]
    #7800790 - 12/26/07 12:25 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

EDIT: got 400x magnification. Spores are blackish-purple and eleptical.


Edited by randy420rhoads (12/26/07 12:32 PM)


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Re: Did i finally find Cyans..... [Re: randy420rhoads]
    #7801154 - 12/26/07 03:12 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

> EDIT: got 400x magnification. Spores are blackish-purple and eleptical.

That sounds right for P. cyanescens, however Hypholoma fasciculare spores also fit that description.

Even at 400x, if you had P. cyanescens and H. fasciculare spores next to each other, the Hypholoma spores would be noticably smaller.

I am 90% convinced that these are Psilocybe cyanescens. I can't really see the blue too well in the pictures, but if they are still blue/blackening, it is definitely that species.


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Re: Did i finally find Cyans..... [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #7801318 - 12/26/07 04:14 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

>That sounds right for P. cyanescens, however Hypholoma fasciculare spores also fit that description.


Is this just some usefull info for me or do you think it's a possibitlity these are Hypholoma fasciculare? They look abosulutely nothing alike to me.

>I am 90% convinced that these are Psilocybe cyanescens. I can't really see the blue too well in the pictures, but if they are still blue/blackening, it is definitely that species.

Would you consider 90% safe enough to try them?:) Already know the answer but thought i'd ask:rolleyes:
I got a second opinion from someone(they don't know shit about mycology) but i asked what color they looked and they said definately blue.

What other posibble look alikes could this be? Any poisonous look alikes? And if some are Cyans is there a chance some are not? (they all look identical to me though).


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Re: Did i finally find Cyans..... [Re: randy420rhoads]
    #7801380 - 12/26/07 04:34 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

> Is this just some usefull info for me or do you think it's a possibitlity these are Hypholoma fasciculare? They look abosulutely nothing alike to me.

Just useful info. Hypholoma fasciculare will be really yellow, you'd notice.

> Would you consider 90% safe enough to try them?

I can't really see them that well from here.

> What other posibble look alikes could this be? Any poisonous look alikes?

Given the spore print color, H. fasciculare is the only poisonous one that I know of.

> And if some are Cyans is there a chance some are not?

If you didn't spore print them all, there is a chance that some Agrocybe or Stropharia has slipped in.

If they all have bluing, they should be ok.


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Re: Did i finally find Cyans..... [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #7801423 - 12/26/07 04:47 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Well fuck,:rolleyes: here we go again. Hopefully not another trip to the E.R...


All but the clump of 4 had noticable blueing. I guess i'll chuck those and try the rest in the next few days.


Hopefully no poisonous Agrocybe or Stropharia look this close to cyans. I thought they might be Agrocybe praecox but the blueing rules that out.


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Re: Did i finally find Cyans..... [Re: randy420rhoads]
    #7801441 - 12/26/07 04:52 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

> Hopefully no poisonous Agrocybe or Stropharia look this close to cyans.

Agrocybe more of a tan brown spore print.  The dark print you posted is not Agrocybe, however the very light print at the top of the photo could be.  Or it could be a light cyan print.

> I thought they might be Agrocybe praecox but the blueing rules that out.
> Well fuck,:rolleyes: here we go again. Hopefully not another trip to the E.R...

Your persistence is commendable.


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Re: Did i finally find Cyans..... [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #7801465 - 12/26/07 05:00 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

The light print at the top was from species number 2. Rust brown i would not even think of eating the cyans had i gotten that light of a print out of it.



I'll let everyone know the results in the next few days.


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Re: Did i finally find Cyans..... [Re: randy420rhoads]
    #7802741 - 12/27/07 02:14 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Dude, you just picked a bunch of Hypholoma mushrooms... They are very toxic and are not oftenley posted on this site as suspected cyan’s… If you’re feeling suicidal then I sudjest that you check your self into a mental institution... Also your lip tattoo and hairy cigarette smoking skull tattoo are stupid...


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Re: Did i finally find Cyans..... [Re: NWDude]
    #7802782 - 12/27/07 02:36 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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Dude, you just picked a bunch of Hypholoma mushrooms... They are very toxic and are not oftenley posted on this site as suspected cyan’s… If you’re feeling suicidal then I sudjest that you check your self into a mental institution... Also your lip tattoo and hairy cigarette smoking skull tattoo are stupid...




Huh? I thought he's been actually pretty careful and smart.

I've seen Hyphalomas posted here as possible woodloving actives, hell even i've posted Hyphalomas thinking they might be active. click.

We're all just relying on some grainy photos of very dessicated mushrooms and only randy can be a true judge. IF there's definite blue bruising like he says and as appear in some of those photos, then some of them are most likely cyans. If not, they could be a range of other things like Alan said. With a purple print, Hyphaloma seems a good fit.

Eating just a quarter of a cap from a blueing mushroom would be a good idea to check that its OK.


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Re: Did i finally find Cyans..... [Re: NWDude]
    #7802804 - 12/27/07 02:46 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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Dude, you just picked a bunch of Hypholoma mushrooms... They are very toxic and are not oftenley posted on this site as suspected cyan’s… If you’re feeling suicidal then I sudjest that you check your self into a mental institution... Also your lip tattoo and hairy cigarette smoking skull tattoo are stupid...



Don't be a jerk. You are off base.


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Re: Did i finally find Cyans..... [Re: CureCat]
    #7803456 - 12/27/07 10:32 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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Tyler. That is HORRIBLE advice.

Please, no one do that. milk thistle extracts are experimental still, and very concentrated forms have been used to treat mushroom poisoning, but using them in the way you describe is like using the abortion pill as a form of birth control. It's just stupid.




RU-486? people have died from it?? And please, I said I was kidding in my first post...no one's gonna read a joke and try it out.


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Re: Did i finally find Cyans..... [Re: tyler_0_durden]
    #7804341 - 12/27/07 02:52 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

<Dude, you just picked a bunch of Hypholoma mushrooms... They are very toxic and are not oftenley posted on this site as suspected cyan’s

If you're talking about Hyplhoma Fasciculare, It's definately not that. There is DEFINITE blueing in most which to my knowledge rules out any Hyphloma. If you know of any blue bruising Hyphloma then let me know.

<If you’re feeling suicidal then I sudjest that you check your self into a mental institution...

A joke... If i was sucidal i would kill myself and not waste time talking about it.

<Also your lip tattoo and hairy cigarette smoking skull tattoo are stupid...

That was uncalled for.Grow up and keep your dumbass comments to yourself. You don't like my tattoo of a guitar legend then fuck off. You're either a very ignorant kid or a very immature adult and i feel sorry for you.


I ate a quarter cap of a blueing one yesterday. Haven't noticed anything yet so i feel pretty safe. One last check before i dose, ANY possible ideas of a look alike, especially poisonous. Bluing or not bluing. Hypholoma fasciculare seems like the only one people have suggested, but it looks nothing alike to me.


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