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New bleach bath mezatapecs! Pics
    #7793893 - 12/23/07 09:37 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Here are some new pics. Enjoy! These are a result of the bleach bath method. Soaked coir/straw/karo in bleach water for 8 hours. Strained,rinsed, and inoculated




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Re: New bleach bath mezatapecs! Pics [Re: lipa]
    #7793900 - 12/23/07 09:38 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

keep us updated!  looks delicious.

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Re: New bleach bath mezatapecs! Pics [Re: im_on_a_boat]
    #7793932 - 12/23/07 09:50 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

i don't know why but i can't seem to get that ridiculous amount of clusters in my casings. I get like 7 mushrooms in total if im lucky.


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Re: New bleach bath mezatapecs! Pics [Re: bryanbzl]
    #7793988 - 12/23/07 10:07 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Can you give a timeline for the bleachbath method? I have heard little about this (most dismiss it as a poopytek) and it obviously has results worth a second look.


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Re: New bleach bath mezatapecs! Pics [Re: lipa]
    #7794056 - 12/23/07 10:26 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Ok!

1.Shred the straw to 1-2 inches.
2. fill a 5 gallon bucket 2/3 full with hot tap water and add a cap full of household bleach.
3. Mix in 1/4 cup karo (seems to soak into coir and stay there. Resulting in very fast leap off and colonization.
4.add a 70/30 straw/coir mixture to fill bucket to 3/4 when dry.
5. let sit 8-12 hours no longer than 12 hours.
6. Rinse with tap water
7. add spawn and thoroughly mix.
8. Rinse (yes with spawn in)
9. squeeze and add to containers.(fills about 2 dish tubs to 4 inches deep.
10.Cover top with aluminum foil half way.
11. Cover the other half with another piece of foil so air can enter through the flap.
12. Wait 1-1 1/2 weeks
13. Case with your favorite casing to 1/2 inch.
14. fruit!!

Just so you know! I use perlite/bran/cadboard spawn with this method. It might be why I have such good results. I cannot be for sure though because I have used grain spawn twice with it, with great results!


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Re: New bleach bath mezatapecs! Pics [Re: lipa]
    #7794064 - 12/23/07 10:29 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Sounds crazy.

But you can't argue with the results. :wink::thumbup:


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Re: New bleach bath mezatapecs! Pics [Re: Premedman1]
    #7794078 - 12/23/07 10:34 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Works every time for me. Only pitfall is that as you can see in one of the pics, wheat can grow from stray seeds. Doesn't affect the outcome though.You have to trim the wheat down once every flush. lol!! It just keeps growing healthfully.


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Re: New bleach bath mezatapecs! Pics [Re: lipa]
    #7794087 - 12/23/07 10:36 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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lipa said:
12. Wait 1-1 1/2 weeks




no offense man, but I never even had black kow take that long to colonize and that is by far the single worst substrate i have ever used.

and dont you think if you soak a bunch of bleach (a human poison) up into your substrate, the mushrooms grown on the substrate will contain bleach as well?

beautiful results though.


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Re: New bleach bath mezatapecs! Pics [Re: bryanbzl]
    #7794091 - 12/23/07 10:36 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

I promise I will work up a more detailed list of all my teks when I have time. Which is limited.


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Re: New bleach bath mezatapecs! Pics [Re: lostinautumn7]
    #7794126 - 12/23/07 10:47 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

You would think it would, but it doesn't! This is actually a modified tek recommended by Stamets. A cap full in 5 gallons is not a lot after rinsing twice. Just think about how much chloride you drink in your tap water each day. And how about the fact that the mushrooms actually change the Ph of the substrate after it colonizes it. Something happened to the bleach but I don't believe you are making toxic mushrooms. I have eaten plenty and I can tell you they are just fine.


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Re: New bleach bath mezatapecs! Pics [Re: bryanbzl]
    #7794143 - 12/23/07 10:52 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

bryanbzl said:
i don't know why but i can't seem to get that ridiculous amount of clusters in my casings. I get like 7 mushrooms in total if im lucky.




Just keep playing with that agar! Thats all I have to say about that. Different strains do different things. Amazing things!!! As I am learning every day!


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Re: New bleach bath mezatapecs! Pics [Re: lostinautumn7]
    #7794153 - 12/23/07 10:53 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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lostinautumn7 said:
Quote:

lipa said:
12. Wait 1-1 1/2 weeks




no offense man, but I never even had black kow take that long to colonize and that is by far the single worst substrate i have ever used.

and dont you think if you soak a bunch of bleach (a human poison) up into your substrate, the mushrooms grown on the substrate will contain bleach as well?

beautiful results though.




What the hell is black kow??


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Re: New bleach bath mezatapecs! Pics [Re: lipa]
    #7794160 - 12/23/07 10:55 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

>>>What is black kow??

Store bought, bagged cow manure.


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Re: New bleach bath mezatapecs! Pics [Re: Premedman1]
    #7794166 - 12/23/07 10:57 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Hah! I see. Never used it. Too much trouble for me to get.


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Re: New bleach bath mezatapecs! Pics [Re: lipa]
    #7794198 - 12/23/07 11:05 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

yeah...it sucks ass but alot of people start spawning using black kow (including me) because it is so cheap and easy to get (almost any hardware or garden store).


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Re: New bleach bath mezatapecs! Pics [Re: lostinautumn7]
    #7794207 - 12/23/07 11:09 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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there is a specific brand of composted cow manure around that comes in a yellow bag that is called "black kow" but basically any store bought cow manure is called black kow around here. it sucks ass but alot of people start spawning using black kow (including me) because it is so cheap and easy to get.




I have actually bought some of that but never did anything with it. It was like 88 cents a bag or something. I would like to know the way you use it. What moisture levels etc.


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Re: New bleach bath mezatapecs! Pics [Re: lipa]
    #7794253 - 12/23/07 11:24 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

whys it suck ass? isn't it composted cow poo? My mycelium ripped through fairly quickly


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Re: New bleach bath mezatapecs! Pics [Re: lipa]
    #7794266 - 12/23/07 11:28 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

for moisture levels in any substrate, use the search tool and find out what "field capacity" means. you can never go wrong with a substrate at field capacity. agar explains it very nicely...in fact i think he coined the term around here, could be wrong though. as for using it, pasteurize and spawn. just like anything else. the yield is crap though...unless you enrich it with something/a few things. read up on complex substrates as well...they work magic. coir is nice too.


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Re: New bleach bath mezatapecs! Pics [Re: Molasses]
    #7794273 - 12/23/07 11:31 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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whys it suck ass? isn't it composted cow poo? My mycelium ripped through fairly quickly




it sucks ass because the yeild sucks. thats all.


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Re: New bleach bath mezatapecs! Pics [Re: lostinautumn7]
    #7794884 - 12/24/07 07:56 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

The yield does NOT suck from using bagged cow manure. It only sucks if the grower does not know how to properly prepare it. Steer manure actually has more food that cubensis prefers than horse manure.

Bleach pasteurization has been around for a long time. Personally, I prefer other methods, but it works, and the bleach is not drawn into the mushrooms.
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