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MushroomTrip
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I am sorry, but your posts just don't make any sense and then you get pissed off because of your own inability to explain what you meant.
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They don't make sense to you.
Obviously others got it. If you don't understand after multiple explanations then I don't know what to tell you other then find another thread you can maybe comprehend.
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Icelander
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JackthaTripper said: Well you asked me to prove his existence so I assumed you didn't believe he existed.
Did my explanation of why I think he exists make sense? Do you believe he exists?
If so, what is your opinion on 'part/apart'?
I'm agnostic but if pushed I think a god makes no sense considering current evidence.
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Re: God: Part or Apart? [Re: Icelander]
#7794100 - 12/23/07 10:40 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Icelander said: I'm agnostic but if pushed I think a god makes no sense considering current evidence.
What evidence sways your opinion towards not believing?
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Its easier to live life without the worry of being judged and worrying about the whole hell for eternity thing.
I've seen no evidence that disproves his existence, if you have some I would like to see it.
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I have met God, he is not a happy fellow right now....he did this to himself by giving us freewill...GODDAMNIT!!!! Once the holy spirit fills you, you arent you anymore...you are a shell housing the spirit of God...too many damned people on the planet atm...he has spread himself thin...imagine what might happen if we got on the same page for just one moment...I just feel greatful our species is confined to the milky way system for a while...the other beings out there view us as a parasite to the entire expanse of the infinity.
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Icelander
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JackthaTripper said:
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Icelander said: I'm agnostic but if pushed I think a god makes no sense considering current evidence.
What evidence sways your opinion towards not believing?
Humanity.
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Gretchenmeister said: I have met God, he is not a happy fellow right now....he did this to himself by giving us freewill...GODDAMNIT!!!! Once the holy spirit fills you, you arent you anymore...you are a shell housing the spirit of God...too many damned people on the planet atm...he has spread himself thin...imagine what might happen if we got on the same page for just one moment...I just feel greatful our species is confined to the milky way system for a while...the other beings out there view us as a parasite to the entire expanse of the infinity.
Are you saying you would have rather God given us no freewill? We'd be basically robots then. Many believe God is all powerful, so how would he be 'spread thin'?
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JackthaTripper said: What evidence sways your opinion towards not believing?
Humanity.
Humanity has done some terrible things, but you have to admit we've done some amazing things as well. Would you take back your existence if you could take back humans ever existing? To believers God gave us this wonderful opportunity to be alive and to experience everything. When someone truly believes in him I think their heart is transformed to peace and these are the people that do really amazing and humble things for others and this world; this is the essence of God and his message.
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Would you take back your existence if you could take back humans ever existing?
Sure
To believers God gave us this wonderful opportunity to be alive and to experience everything. When someone truly believes in him I think their heart is transformed to peace and these are the people that do really amazing and humble things for others and this world; this is the essence of God and his message.
Blah blah blah I'd like to send all the "believers" to where god is so we could have a decent world to play in.
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Re: God: Part or Apart? [Re: Icelander]
#7826957 - 01/03/08 10:30 AM (16 years, 29 days ago) |
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I never understood why believers cry when a loved one goes to paradise or tremble when their own end approaches. Could it be that deep down they really do NOT believe?
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Gee OC, you might be on to sumpthin.
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Re: God: Part or Apart? [Re: Icelander]
#7827033 - 01/03/08 11:01 AM (16 years, 29 days ago) |
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I don't know about this whole God being spread thin thing but I have had similar revelations on acid... each person is the son/daughter of god, so the more people you have the less special each person becomes and each person becomes a Specialist in something instead of being able to stand alone in greatness. This means that we are all much more codependent than we should be while at the same time we resent each other for needing to be codependent; unless you are a spiritual person/righteous and make it your mission to become selfless. Even still, there are so many different variations of people now that it is much easier for personalities to clash rather than produce something beneficial.
My perspective is starting to shift though and I don't know if I can entertain this idea anymore, especially since it came to me on acid.
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Sounds like dirty acid.
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Re: God: Part or Apart? [Re: Icelander]
#7827072 - 01/03/08 11:28 AM (16 years, 29 days ago) |
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Nah, it was pretty good acid. Have you seen the movie Idiocracy? It's basically the same idea. Evolution favors those who produce the most, not the smartest - so humanity gets dumber. We, or God, favor free will or individuality over selflessness so we become more fragmented rather than a wholly unified species.
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Icelander said: I'd like to send all the "believers" to where god is so we could have a decent world to play in.
Well it looks like you'll get your wish when you die, this is Gods plan . Its not going to be very decent without him though .
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EternalCowabunga said: ... each person is the son/daughter of god, so the more people you have the less special each person becomes and each person becomes a Specialist in something instead of being able to stand alone in greatness. This means that we are all much more codependent than we should be while at the same time we resent each other for needing to be codependent; unless you are a spiritual person/righteous and make it your mission to become selfless. Even still, there are so many different variations of people now that it is much easier for personalities to clash rather than produce something beneficial.
It is an interesting idea. I'm not sure I can buy into it all though. He is controlling every atom in the universe, comprehending the control and amount of power this involves makes doubt that a few billion more people would hamper his ability to 'be there' for each individual. The universe has so much energy and mass dynamically interacting, it makes me think that whatever energy is spent on us is just a small blip. I do think it makes us more codependent though.
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OrgoneConclusion said: I never understood why believers cry when a loved one goes to paradise or tremble when their own end approaches. Could it be that deep down they really do NOT believe?
I kind of see what your saying as the end of life represents the beginning of eternal salvation, so you think why would they be sad if one goes to paradise at this point. This view however ignores the human emotion. Just because we're religious doesn't mean we don't have feelings. Of course, we're going to be sad, we are still going to miss that person and want to talk and see them again on this earth. We don't think the separation is permanent but we can still be sad that we are apart for the time being.
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Well it looks like you'll get your wish when you die, this is Gods plan . Its not going to be very decent without him though .
Gee thank you for speaking Gods mind for us as if you have a fucking clue about anything at all.
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Re: God: Part or Apart? [Re: Icelander]
#7848644 - 01/08/08 03:47 PM (16 years, 24 days ago) |
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I'm just repeating what God told us via the Bible, I'm not sure why you would care so much...
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Whos us?
How do you know God said anything via the Bible?
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