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Munchauzen



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Re: Easiest cultivation method ever! [Re: SKrink]
#15441963 - 11/29/11 08:06 PM (12 years, 2 months ago) |
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SKrink said: I remember reading about this active mycelial mat method in the Anarchist Cookbook. It said to dry out the mat, powder and put in gelcaps.
mycelium only contains psilocin, which doesn't last through drying. those gelcaps wouldn't do a damn thing, I'm pretty sure. you have to eat the mats wet to injest psilocin, which immediately turns into psilocybin in your system.
EDIT: psilocybin turns to psilocin in your body, not the other way around.
Edited by Munchauzen (11/30/11 11:17 AM)
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k00laid
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Re: Easiest cultivation method ever! [Re: Munchauzen]
#15442149 - 11/29/11 08:36 PM (12 years, 2 months ago) |
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u sure about that?
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Re: Easiest cultivation method ever! [Re: k00laid]
#15442284 - 11/29/11 09:08 PM (12 years, 2 months ago) |
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For what its worth...an old but interesting read. http://www.fanaticus.com/forensic.htm I have always been a skeptic of the potency of mycelium. But if it works, I guess the study is bunk.
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Re: Easiest cultivation method ever! [Re: fishy1]
#15442474 - 11/29/11 10:02 PM (12 years, 2 months ago) |
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Thread title is misleading...deffinetly not the "easiest cultivation ever!"
Does sound kinda interesting though, is this your main type of cultivation or is just a side experiment with mono's or such too? If not ...
-------------------- The mushroom speaks: '"I am old, older than thought in your species, which is itself fifty times older than your history. Though I have been on earth for ages I am from the stars. My home is no one planet, for many worlds scattered through the shining disc of the galaxy have conditions which allow my spores an opportunity for life... How the hypercommunication mode operates is a secret which will not be lightly given to man. But the means should be obvious: it is the occurrence of psilocybin and psilocin in the biosynthetic pathways of my living body that opens for me and my symbiots the vision screens to many worlds"
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Re: Easiest cultivation method ever! [Re: Bugler Boy]
#15442513 - 11/29/11 10:11 PM (12 years, 2 months ago) |
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That was quite the opposite of what I was expecting. I almost thought it was a joke.
Interdasting.

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Munchauzen



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Re: Easiest cultivation method ever! [Re: k00laid]
#15444386 - 11/30/11 11:13 AM (12 years, 2 months ago) |
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k00laid said: u sure about that?
edit: my bad I got the psilocin/psilocybin thing backwards. psilocin is the active agent in your body after you injest psilocybin.
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Re: Easiest cultivation method ever! [Re: Bugler Boy]
#15445059 - 11/30/11 01:37 PM (12 years, 2 months ago) |
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Munchauzen said: mycelium only contains psilocin, which doesn't last through drying.
it was dried
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After incubation for 52 days at 24 centigrade in the dark, there are obtained 452 grams of dried fungal material, i.e. 22.6 grams per litre from a batch of 20 litres. The active substance is obtained from the fungal material in the manner described in Example 3. Yield: 1083 milligrams of pure crystalline psilocybin and 45 milligrams of psilocin.
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Bugler Boy said: Thread title is misleading...deffinetly not the "easiest cultivation ever!"
Does sound kinda interesting though, is this your main type of cultivation or is just a side experiment with mono's or such too? If not ... 
Its the easiest method I have heard of, regular sclerotia growing used to be the easiest I have heard of, but if this works then harvesting the sclerotia is going to be much easier. And not need for a pressure cooker either.
You might think its dumb but obviously Sandoz didn't. You did see that Roger Heim & Albert Hofmann were listed on the patent right?
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Munchauzen



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Re: Easiest cultivation method ever! [Re: blackout]
#15445259 - 11/30/11 02:16 PM (12 years, 2 months ago) |
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JESUS CHRIST I JUST REALIZED THIS IS A 3 YEAR OLD THREAD 
and guess what, its 3 years old and nobody is doing it today. WONDER WHY
Edited by Munchauzen (11/30/11 02:17 PM)
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Re: Easiest cultivation method ever! [Re: Munchauzen]
#15445569 - 11/30/11 03:25 PM (12 years, 2 months ago) |
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Munchauzen said: WONDER WHY
I expect 99% of growers are ignorant to it, let alone tried it.
3 years is nothing, the patent for this method was patented in 1958. If you read the other thread I linked you would realise what happened.
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Re: Easiest cultivation method ever! [Re: blackout]
#15445840 - 11/30/11 04:15 PM (12 years, 2 months ago) |
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blackout said:
I expect 99% of growers are ignorant to it, let alone tried it.
i think you are wrong about this.
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Re: Easiest cultivation method ever! [Re: blackout]
#15445874 - 11/30/11 04:23 PM (12 years, 2 months ago) |
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Grow fruits, lets have a serious discussion about them, and forget about hydro-shrooming.
Seriously, nobody is going to flip out about a post where someone just grew mycelium and ate it.
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Re: Easiest cultivation method ever! [Re: Munchauzen] 1
#15446000 - 11/30/11 04:53 PM (12 years, 2 months ago) |
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k00laid said: i think you are wrong about this.
Well I have searched many, many times over the years about various "mycelium harvesting" and mycelium extraction techniques, read loads of threads, and this is the first time I heard of this method. Adam Gottlieb's flawed book seems to have made people dismiss the concept.
I have been searching since and have come up with very little else, just 1 thread on mycotopia.
If you think I am wrong have you found others discussing this method, if so please post links.
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Munchauzen said: Seriously, nobody is going to flip out about a post where someone just grew mycelium and ate it.
I am beginning to wonder if you guys are as blind & ignorant to this as Gottlieb apparently was.
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Re: Easiest cultivation method ever! [Re: blackout]
#15446057 - 11/30/11 05:09 PM (12 years, 2 months ago) |
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https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/15189807/fpart/1/vc/1
this guy stopped posting too. I guess he gave up when it didn't work either.
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k00laid
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Re: Easiest cultivation method ever! [Re: blackout]
#15446825 - 11/30/11 07:46 PM (12 years, 2 months ago) |
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ive tried all sorts of BRF cake extractions.
and even a mycelium on agar extraction.
i was not impressed with any of them, but these are all with p. cubensis.
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Re: Easiest cultivation method ever! [Re: ranonar]
#15449724 - 12/01/11 01:47 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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You are both completely missing it, read slowly
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ranonar said:The trick to get thick mycelial mats is to use 2 grams of agar per liter insted of 20
again I expect 99% of growers are ignorant to it, let alone tried it. Please prove me wrong, like you said I was....
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Re: Easiest cultivation method ever! [Re: blackout]
#15449896 - 12/01/11 02:44 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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This doesn't sound easier than a simple PF tek or growing stones.
It also sounds absolutely disgusting to eat.
Interesting sort of, but not something I'm going to go out of my way to try.
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Re: Easiest cultivation method ever! [Re: Beefy1]
#15449944 - 12/01/11 02:56 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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This is just getting ridiculous at this stage. Again here is the other post I linked
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/7680813
If you want to stay in the dark don't bother reading it.
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k00laid
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Re: Easiest cultivation method ever! [Re: blackout]
#15450670 - 12/01/11 05:23 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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k00laid said: i think...
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blackout said: Please prove me wrong, like you said I was....
im just stating my opinion, read more slowly.
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Re: Easiest cultivation method ever! [Re: blackout]
#15450690 - 12/01/11 05:27 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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You own stock in an agar company or something?
The key that makes PF tek the easiest for new growers is the fact that you don't need a pressure cooker.
along with the fact that when people want to do mushrooms, they normally like to eat an actual mushroom, not a tea or a mat of myc.
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Re: Easiest cultivation method ever! [Re: Beefy1]
#15454600 - 12/02/11 01:32 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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k00laid said:
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k00laid said: i think...
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blackout said: Please prove me wrong, like you said I was....
im just stating my opinion, read more slowly. 
An opinion that you can provide ZERO evidence to back up, not even a single link to suggest others have ever tried it. Stay ignorant.
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