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Your Favorite Entheogen
    #7788828 - 12/22/07 12:33 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

If you had to choose only one entheogen to use for the rest of your life which would you pick and why?
Which entheogen do you choose?
You may choose only one


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Re: Your Favorite Entheogen [Re: doitagain]
    #7788864 - 12/22/07 12:41 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

From what I've tried so far - LSD

Never tried Mescaline or Aya though.


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Re: Your Favorite Entheogen [Re: Individual]
    #7789018 - 12/22/07 01:17 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

mescaline. because its just.... its just heavenly.


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Re: Your Favorite Entheogen [Re: LeftyBurnz]
    #7789296 - 12/22/07 02:45 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

It's between Mescaline and MDMA for me.


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Re: Your Favorite Entheogen [Re: Robo]
    #7789338 - 12/22/07 02:55 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Sadly i have yet to try any psychedelics as of yet. I once bought 2 hits of acid but what ive read it was nothing like acid was suppose to be.

Everything just felt very foreign to me, not visually, but physically like i just got weird vibes from everything.

The shit came in two very tiny yellow dots.


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Re: Your Favorite Entheogen [Re: Individual]
    #7789416 - 12/22/07 03:16 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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Individual said:
From what I've tried so far - LSD

Never tried Mescaline or Aya though.





Same. LSD is so great!


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Re: Your Favorite Entheogen [Re: Shamanintraining]
    #7789436 - 12/22/07 03:23 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

LSD. the body high is great, the energy is great, the visuals are great, theres no fucked up come down and your eyes just look so cool.


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Re: Your Favorite Entheogen [Re: imthenewpope]
    #7789456 - 12/22/07 03:28 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

acid is lovely :heart:


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Re: Your Favorite Entheogen [Re: gilesypopper]
    #7789466 - 12/22/07 03:31 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

heh heh, i heart LSD


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Re: Your Favorite Entheogen [Re: LeftyBurnz]
    #7789810 - 12/22/07 05:05 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

there is going to be alot for mushrooms, as this IS the shroomery


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Re: Your Favorite Entheogen [Re: doitagain]
    #7790686 - 12/22/07 10:06 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

How can you put mushrooms on there twice and not include weed? :emocry:


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Re: Your Favorite Entheogen [Re: Wolfgang]
    #7790770 - 12/22/07 10:38 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Yeah if weed had been on there I would of chosen that. Mushrooms for me though instead.


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Re: Your Favorite Entheogen [Re: doitagain]
    #7791612 - 12/23/07 06:00 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

LSD. While I've had experiences on a par with my acid trips via other substances, particularly ayahuasca, LSD is the one psychedelic that has permanently changed my for the better and opened me up to a spiritual path.


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Re: Your Favorite Entheogen [Re: EllisDSox]
    #7791691 - 12/23/07 07:23 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

i have to go with LSD, due to the convenience of dosing.


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Re: Your Favorite Entheogen [Re: kotik]
    #7792062 - 12/23/07 10:40 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

cacti - mescaline is just ...its everything you want and more! . LSD and mushrooms tie for second place.


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Re: Your Favorite Entheogen [Re: ShroomDoom]
    #7792309 - 12/23/07 12:18 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

^ I'm so excited! I will be trying Peruvian Torch for the first time soon.


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Re: Your Favorite Entheogen [Re: felix4life]
    #7792375 - 12/23/07 12:40 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

DMT/huasca

has shown me beautiful things about life that im pretty sure i'll never forget.


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Re: Your Favorite Entheogen [Re: 2859558484]
    #7792384 - 12/23/07 12:43 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)







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Re: Your Favorite Entheogen [Re: Wolfgang]
    #7792392 - 12/23/07 12:48 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

cause i don't really consider weed an entheogen, it's too cloudy and too weak really.


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Re: Your Favorite Entheogen [Re: doitagain]
    #7792403 - 12/23/07 12:52 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

some weed is fucking strong


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Re: Your Favorite Entheogen [Re: 2859558484]
    #7792422 - 12/23/07 12:57 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

it's strong but it's strong in a different way, don't get me wrong i love weed. but imo it's entheogenic potential is pretty limited.

And weeds also not on the list because that way your not choosing between shrooms and weed, or lsd and weed, your choosing between weed and either lsd shrooms or another entheogen.


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Re: Your Favorite Entheogen [Re: doitagain]
    #7792432 - 12/23/07 01:00 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

besides weed?? probably the occasinal Acid or mushroom trip. Thou, mushrooms will always be around. I hope the same for acid as well


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Re: Your Favorite Entheogen [Re: Ogla]
    #7792610 - 12/23/07 01:40 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

You do realize that marijuana is technically considered an entheogen, right? Entheogens include any and every substance that brings about religious experiences, and I know more than a few people who only smoke for meditation.

Personally, I have to go with either kava or lion's tail. If I trip too often, especially on mescaline or related substances, I end up getting stuck in a mental rut for a month or two, but with those two I can indulge to my heart's desire for the most part without getting stuck in that mental state. Know what I mean?


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Re: Your Favorite Entheogen [Re: Freezestate]
    #7793152 - 12/23/07 04:40 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

I know some people do it, but then coffee and alcohol have been used in the same way as well by other cultures. I think cannabis's entheogenic potential is quite limited, and it can often take people away from spiritual experiences into complacency.


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Re: Your Favorite Entheogen [Re: doitagain]
    #7793164 - 12/23/07 04:46 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

I would say DMT, but I don't know if that would be the ONE drug I would settle for the rest of my life...So I guess LSD.


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Re: Your Favorite Entheogen [Re: Freezestate]
    #7793429 - 12/23/07 06:22 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

i agree that marijuana could fit the definition of entheogen, but i think it's potential as an entheogen is fairly weak. The most common profile of someone who uses pot is for recreation not religious experience.


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Re: Your Favorite Entheogen [Re: doitagain]
    #7794009 - 12/23/07 10:14 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

I know I've never used it for 'spiritual' purposes, just to chill out, relax, etc.


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Re: Your Favorite Entheogen [Re: doitagain]
    #7794037 - 12/23/07 10:21 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

LSA from HBWR. It's dope! It's like Heroin and LSD at the same









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Re: Your Favorite Entheogen [Re: marz13]
    #7798893 - 12/25/07 05:23 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

i've only had it from morning glory seeds, the trip was fun, but the body load and nausea was quite strong. Is it better in HBWR?


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Re: Your Favorite Entheogen [Re: doitagain]
    #7798927 - 12/25/07 05:52 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

lol my eyes get constricted from rivea seeds


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Re: Your Favorite Entheogen [Re: Sra_sephiroth0]
    #7798972 - 12/25/07 06:27 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

For those saying weed has a weak entheogen potential, it's fair to say that about your own experience.

But I think it definitely has the potential. Being high is never as mind shatteringly spiritual as a heavy trip, but still. When high, I appreciate nature, music, life in general. Don't say it has no potential, because for many people it does.


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Re: Your Favorite Entheogen [Re: doitagain]
    #7799569 - 12/25/07 10:42 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

lsd

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Re: Your Favorite Entheogen [Re: Leanin]
    #7799687 - 12/25/07 11:24 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: Your Favorite Entheogen [Re: Leinahtan]
    #7799729 - 12/25/07 11:38 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

LSD, It can actually be enjoyable while teaching you about the nature of reality! Most other psychs IMHO are rather uncomfortable but acid just feels fantastic!


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Re: Your Favorite Entheogen [Re: doitagain]
    #7799898 - 12/26/07 12:51 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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i've only had it from morning glory seeds, the trip was fun, but the body load and nausea was quite strong. Is it better in HBWR?




The following probable belong is a different forum.

I just had some last night and I have to say It was the strangest trip on LSA so far. 6 seed totally wasted me. Vary heavy body load but realistic inter visions. Like my thoughts were visions of a time to come. I felt like a prophet receiving a message to convey to others. Vary tribal. Super strong sexual urges. A bit scary. I believe that the body load and nausea add meaning to the experience. Almost like a endurance trial or initiation. He who can endure the pain will be found worthy to receive the messages hidden in LSA. I never had Morning glory. If you do buy HBWR make sure that they are the one from Hawaii. Start with a low dose. 3 or 4 seeds. You should be fine.



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Re: Your Favorite Entheogen [Re: marz13]
    #7799933 - 12/26/07 01:14 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Wow, I'm amazed at all the good experiences people have with acid on this thread. I heard nothing but horror stories all these years.


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Re: Your Favorite Entheogen [Re: felix4life]
    #7799940 - 12/26/07 01:20 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

if its acid, its gonna be a good experience.

no mindfuck, no bad spots like shrooms. with my experience.


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Re: Your Favorite Entheogen [Re: felix4life]
    #7799942 - 12/26/07 01:21 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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Wow, I'm amazed at all the good experiences people have with acid on this thread. I heard nothing but horror stories all these years.




I didn't really enjoy that much until I smoked some dank, then it got rather interesting and the euphoria was incredible. I forgot I existed, but I wasn't scared at all like I'd be on Salvi or Shroomies. Weed goes well w/ pretty much anything, I hear N20 does to but I haven't done it yet for whatever reason. I needa go to a smoke shop and gemme some yo!


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Re: Your Favorite Entheogen [Re: RonaldFuckingPaul]
    #7800095 - 12/26/07 03:41 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

I've tried acid twice-both times it was real dirty, and a bad setting to trip in.

If I had access to quality, I might give it another shot but not likely.

I've found shrooms on the other hand to have been amazing everytime, in every setting-even unfavorable ones.

Mushrooms feel like a much richer experience, and I feel reborn. I never get that feeling with acid-just feels as dirty as E.


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Re: Your Favorite Entheogen [Re: greystealth]
    #7801251 - 12/26/07 03:51 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

grey stealth if your acid felt as dirty as E i think it's likely you got an RC labeled as L.


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Re: Your Favorite Entheogen [Re: doitagain]
    #7801574 - 12/26/07 05:56 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

For me, LSD is the all-around most profound, wildest hallucinogen in town, but mescaline seems to blend with my body easier. It could just be the friendliness of the phenethylamine molecule, I don't know. But, if I had to go with only one forever, I'd have to go with the cactus.


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Re: Your Favorite Entheogen [Re: felix4life]
    #7801659 - 12/26/07 06:32 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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Wow, I'm amazed at all the good experiences people have with acid on this thread. I heard nothing but horror stories all these years.




Yeah it's kinda funny, I always heard acid is so bad, way too intense and mushrooms are natural, nice and gentle. For me this was a total load of bullshit. In my book mushrooms are way more hardcore than acid, except they are shorter and generally change people less.

Acid does deliver the "message" better IMO, because it is less easily dismissed as hallucination, so maybe people that don't want to hear it have a harder time

I love LSD, it is so mind expansive, clean and positive, but my relationship with mushrooms is usually pretty uneasy. They are usually much more confusing and disorienting.


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Re: Your Favorite Entheogen [Re: marz13]
    #7801983 - 12/26/07 08:34 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: Your Favorite Entheogen [Re: Robo]
    #7802006 - 12/26/07 08:44 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: Your Favorite Entheogen [Re: RonaldFuckingPaul]
    #7802018 - 12/26/07 08:51 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

nevermind then :tripping:


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Re: Your Favorite Entheogen [Re: Divided_Sky]
    #7802110 - 12/26/07 09:29 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Back in the day:
Mushrooms= the occasional laugh fest, drunken body, hightened cognitive and linguistic abilities, and an amazing experience every time even if some of the experiences were light hearted and not too important to me.

Lsd, always epic, not so funny. Rather than light hearted mind games, this shit was always serious, every time. Some laughter, but more complex.

These days after so very many trips:

Mushrooms= harder on my body. The heart races without mental provocation. More disorienting than lsd. Not funny anymore, but much "fun" in its own deep way.


LSD, same as always, but better, more deep, like how mushrooms are for me today, in a way.

More of the same, but they both changed over time.

They both just became more special and mindblowing.
Mushrooms are just hard on my body.
Mgs vs ugs is part of the reason for this im sure.


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Re: Your Favorite Entheogen [Re: yageman]
    #7802125 - 12/26/07 09:35 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

I would have to say mushrooms are my favorite.

Nothing seems to hit me more emotionally than they do. I've had the best times of my life with psilocybe cubensis. Nothing I've experienced has even come close to this wonderful fungi.

LSD is a close second, thats for sure. But I think mushrooms take the cake.

They take you on such a beautifully composed trip, it's almost impossible not to think they were meant to take you there.


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Re: Your Favorite Entheogen [Re: Drewwyann]
    #7802255 - 12/26/07 10:15 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: Your Favorite Entheogen [Re: yageman]
    #7802676 - 12/27/07 01:36 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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They both just became more special and mindblowing.
Mushrooms are just hard on my body.
Mgs vs ugs is part of the reason for this im sure.




Yeah, I'm glad somebody else has commented on this. Last couple times I seriously thought I was having a heart attack because my arms were hurting and heart racing. I even knew "Ok this is just one of those mushroom death trips you always hear about." But it was hard to convince myself. My body felt pretty crappy after both times.

Though with LSD I end up very tired, like 8 hours on Aderral, I never feel like I'm having blood pressure problems, in pain or incapacitated by the body high.

I'd always heard the opposite that acid was way harder on your body. I guess in one sense it is harder, like an amphetamine, but less stressful than the nervous shock on the mushrooms. Maybe it is because mushrooms seem to really hit my sympathetic nervous system hard and ring the panic bells pretty easily and are so physically overwhelming. Also they have been comming on really fast for me, in 10-15 minutes. Maybe too much too fast.

I think it is most likely the different molecules rather than dose size because mescaline is much less potent than psilocybin and it is much easier on my body.


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Re: Your Favorite Entheogen [Re: Divided_Sky]
    #7802730 - 12/27/07 02:09 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

That makes sense.

Mushrooms just have something about them that causes the physical effects of anxiety to become ever present during the first 1.5-2.5 hours yet I know damn well I have nothing to be afraid of except for the cognitive effects of such an experience during and possibly well after the experience.

I feel mushrooms within 5 min on any dose above 1 gram.

Im not talking about normal anxiety though.
Im talking about dieing, which seems to be be an intigral part of living.

Its all about loosing your shit half way, which in reality can happen.
For better or worse.
To confront yourself like that is part of the process.
If you think you are experiencing ego death and think you were because you dont know shit and are just confused and cant tie your shoes or some shit, then good luck to you.

You have no fucking idea.

Mushrooms are good at making good people seem plain old stupid.

Ego death is not a high.
Its Fucking huge and it will kill you you for a moment in time.


Mescaline, lsd, and mushrooms can all do this though their structures are not all the same.
Id add ayahuasca to the list but it really is a totally different and more fragile/articulate animal.


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You moron. Material is material is material.  No 'thing' fixes any situation.  If anything were so simple we would be living in a much better world.[/quote] <-----the dumbest thing I have ever read in my life.
Thanks shroomery.


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Re: Your Favorite Entheogen [Re: yageman]
    #7805658 - 12/27/07 09:36 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

I personal think LSD is something people need to be very wary while under the influence of because it can make irrational ideas seem fuckin grand. Natural hallucinogens provide truth I believe. Mushrooms are great for teaching and personal growth and cacti are nice to experience that psychedelic energy and introspection without as much of a slap in the face. I haven't really had a good enough experience with ayahuasca so I cant say much..

I think mescaline can be a more enjoyable experience but I'd probably stick to mushrooms if i had to, for its teaching properties (although they can lead to sadness or anxiety on the trip, particularily first few hours...we learn the most from suffering!) I shant vote though cause perhaps ayahuasca is a better teacher. not good enough experience to know yet..


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Re: Your Favorite Entheogen [Re: ShroomyTunes]
    #7805700 - 12/27/07 09:51 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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I personal think LSD is something people need to be very wary while under the influence of because it can make irrational ideas seem fuckin grand.




You do realize that the reason Amsterdam has moved toward illegalization of mushies is for this very reason? (Tourists doing stupid shit they wouldn't normally do)


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Re: Your Favorite Entheogen [Re: ShroomyTunes]
    #7805868 - 12/27/07 10:37 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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ShroomyTunes said:
I personal think LSD is something people need to be very wary while under the influence of because it can make irrational ideas seem fuckin grand. Natural hallucinogens provide truth I believe. Mushrooms are great for teaching and personal growth and cacti are nice to experience that psychedelic energy and introspection without as much of a slap in the face. I haven't really had a good enough experience with ayahuasca so I cant say much..

I like the way you think. :wink:


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Re: Your Favorite Entheogen [Re: marz13]
    #7806148 - 12/27/07 11:47 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Not so sure about the irrational ideas, although I HAVE heard of it happening. At least you have some rationality on acid. Mushrooms make it almost completely impossible to comprehend the normal world. (for me) Personally, I feel more wary of mushrooms because they warp my thoughts so heavily and disconntect me from the world around me.

I find LSD much safer in this regard.

I think some personalities just mesh better with some enthoegens better than others.


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