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04281969
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Re: Your Favorite Entheogen [Re: doitagain]
#7801574 - 12/26/07 05:56 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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For me, LSD is the all-around most profound, wildest hallucinogen in town, but mescaline seems to blend with my body easier. It could just be the friendliness of the phenethylamine molecule, I don't know. But, if I had to go with only one forever, I'd have to go with the cactus.
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Divided_Sky
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Re: Your Favorite Entheogen [Re: felix4life]
#7801659 - 12/26/07 06:32 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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felix4life said: Wow, I'm amazed at all the good experiences people have with acid on this thread. I heard nothing but horror stories all these years.
Yeah it's kinda funny, I always heard acid is so bad, way too intense and mushrooms are natural, nice and gentle. For me this was a total load of bullshit. In my book mushrooms are way more hardcore than acid, except they are shorter and generally change people less.
Acid does deliver the "message" better IMO, because it is less easily dismissed as hallucination, so maybe people that don't want to hear it have a harder time
I love LSD, it is so mind expansive, clean and positive, but my relationship with mushrooms is usually pretty uneasy. They are usually much more confusing and disorienting.
-------------------- 1. "After an hour I wasn't feeling anything so I decided to take another..." 2. "We were feeling pretty good so we decided to smoke a few bowls..." 3. "I had to be real quiet because my parents were asleep upstairs..."
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Re: Your Favorite Entheogen [Re: marz13]
#7801983 - 12/26/07 08:34 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Does anyone else see people going up the mountain in this picture?
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Re: Your Favorite Entheogen [Re: Robo]
#7802006 - 12/26/07 08:44 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Does anyone else see people going up the mountain in this picture?
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Robo
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nevermind then
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yageman
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Re: Your Favorite Entheogen [Re: Divided_Sky]
#7802110 - 12/26/07 09:29 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Back in the day: Mushrooms= the occasional laugh fest, drunken body, hightened cognitive and linguistic abilities, and an amazing experience every time even if some of the experiences were light hearted and not too important to me.
Lsd, always epic, not so funny. Rather than light hearted mind games, this shit was always serious, every time. Some laughter, but more complex.
These days after so very many trips:
Mushrooms= harder on my body. The heart races without mental provocation. More disorienting than lsd. Not funny anymore, but much "fun" in its own deep way.
LSD, same as always, but better, more deep, like how mushrooms are for me today, in a way.
More of the same, but they both changed over time.
They both just became more special and mindblowing. Mushrooms are just hard on my body. Mgs vs ugs is part of the reason for this im sure.
-------------------- [quote]Me_Roy said: You moron. Material is material is material. No 'thing' fixes any situation. If anything were so simple we would be living in a much better world.[/quote] <-----the dumbest thing I have ever read in my life. Thanks shroomery.
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Re: Your Favorite Entheogen [Re: yageman]
#7802125 - 12/26/07 09:35 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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I would have to say mushrooms are my favorite.
Nothing seems to hit me more emotionally than they do. I've had the best times of my life with psilocybe cubensis. Nothing I've experienced has even come close to this wonderful fungi. LSD is a close second, thats for sure. But I think mushrooms take the cake.
They take you on such a beautifully composed trip, it's almost impossible not to think they were meant to take you there.
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Re: Your Favorite Entheogen [Re: Drewwyann]
#7802255 - 12/26/07 10:15 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Great thread.
-------------------- “I have lived on the lip of insanity, wanting to know reasons, knocking on a door. It opens. I've been knocking from the inside.” - Rumi “The nitrogen in our DNA, the calcium in our teeth, the iron in our blood, the carbon in our apple pies were made in the interiors of collapsing stars. We are made of starstuff.” - Carl Sagan
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Re: Your Favorite Entheogen [Re: yageman]
#7802676 - 12/27/07 01:36 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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yageman said: They both just became more special and mindblowing. Mushrooms are just hard on my body. Mgs vs ugs is part of the reason for this im sure.
Yeah, I'm glad somebody else has commented on this. Last couple times I seriously thought I was having a heart attack because my arms were hurting and heart racing. I even knew "Ok this is just one of those mushroom death trips you always hear about." But it was hard to convince myself. My body felt pretty crappy after both times.
Though with LSD I end up very tired, like 8 hours on Aderral, I never feel like I'm having blood pressure problems, in pain or incapacitated by the body high.
I'd always heard the opposite that acid was way harder on your body. I guess in one sense it is harder, like an amphetamine, but less stressful than the nervous shock on the mushrooms. Maybe it is because mushrooms seem to really hit my sympathetic nervous system hard and ring the panic bells pretty easily and are so physically overwhelming. Also they have been comming on really fast for me, in 10-15 minutes. Maybe too much too fast.
I think it is most likely the different molecules rather than dose size because mescaline is much less potent than psilocybin and it is much easier on my body.
-------------------- 1. "After an hour I wasn't feeling anything so I decided to take another..." 2. "We were feeling pretty good so we decided to smoke a few bowls..." 3. "I had to be real quiet because my parents were asleep upstairs..."
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Re: Your Favorite Entheogen [Re: Divided_Sky]
#7802730 - 12/27/07 02:09 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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That makes sense.
Mushrooms just have something about them that causes the physical effects of anxiety to become ever present during the first 1.5-2.5 hours yet I know damn well I have nothing to be afraid of except for the cognitive effects of such an experience during and possibly well after the experience.
I feel mushrooms within 5 min on any dose above 1 gram.
Im not talking about normal anxiety though. Im talking about dieing, which seems to be be an intigral part of living.
Its all about loosing your shit half way, which in reality can happen. For better or worse. To confront yourself like that is part of the process. If you think you are experiencing ego death and think you were because you dont know shit and are just confused and cant tie your shoes or some shit, then good luck to you.
You have no fucking idea.
Mushrooms are good at making good people seem plain old stupid.
Ego death is not a high. Its Fucking huge and it will kill you you for a moment in time.
Mescaline, lsd, and mushrooms can all do this though their structures are not all the same. Id add ayahuasca to the list but it really is a totally different and more fragile/articulate animal.
-------------------- [quote]Me_Roy said: You moron. Material is material is material. No 'thing' fixes any situation. If anything were so simple we would be living in a much better world.[/quote] <-----the dumbest thing I have ever read in my life. Thanks shroomery.
Edited by yageman (12/27/07 02:12 AM)
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Re: Your Favorite Entheogen [Re: yageman]
#7805658 - 12/27/07 09:36 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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I personal think LSD is something people need to be very wary while under the influence of because it can make irrational ideas seem fuckin grand. Natural hallucinogens provide truth I believe. Mushrooms are great for teaching and personal growth and cacti are nice to experience that psychedelic energy and introspection without as much of a slap in the face. I haven't really had a good enough experience with ayahuasca so I cant say much..
I think mescaline can be a more enjoyable experience but I'd probably stick to mushrooms if i had to, for its teaching properties (although they can lead to sadness or anxiety on the trip, particularily first few hours...we learn the most from suffering!) I shant vote though cause perhaps ayahuasca is a better teacher. not good enough experience to know yet..
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ShroomyTunes said: I personal think LSD is something people need to be very wary while under the influence of because it can make irrational ideas seem fuckin grand.
You do realize that the reason Amsterdam has moved toward illegalization of mushies is for this very reason? (Tourists doing stupid shit they wouldn't normally do)
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ShroomyTunes said: I personal think LSD is something people need to be very wary while under the influence of because it can make irrational ideas seem fuckin grand. Natural hallucinogens provide truth I believe. Mushrooms are great for teaching and personal growth and cacti are nice to experience that psychedelic energy and introspection without as much of a slap in the face. I haven't really had a good enough experience with ayahuasca so I cant say much..
I like the way you think.
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Re: Your Favorite Entheogen [Re: marz13]
#7806148 - 12/27/07 11:47 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Not so sure about the irrational ideas, although I HAVE heard of it happening. At least you have some rationality on acid. Mushrooms make it almost completely impossible to comprehend the normal world. (for me) Personally, I feel more wary of mushrooms because they warp my thoughts so heavily and disconntect me from the world around me.
I find LSD much safer in this regard.
I think some personalities just mesh better with some enthoegens better than others.
-------------------- 1. "After an hour I wasn't feeling anything so I decided to take another..." 2. "We were feeling pretty good so we decided to smoke a few bowls..." 3. "I had to be real quiet because my parents were asleep upstairs..."
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