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Will overpacked straw logs succeed?
    #7788645 - 12/22/07 11:34 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

I'm worried about my straw log because it is taking longer than 2 weeks to finish. I know after 2 weeks the straw becomes susceptible to contams. The slowness is because I packed the straw in too tight. Will it still finish, just take longer?

My growlog : http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/7736400/page/0/fpart/1/vc/1


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Re: Will overpacked straw logs succeed? [Re: AncientBeing]
    #7788692 - 12/22/07 11:53 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

there is a slight chance it will finish, but if it's been 2 weeks, probably not.

Your best bet is to just start over. You may be able to get a few fruits off this log still but then you run the risk of spreading contams through your grow-room.

There's likely too much water for the myc to grow because of the packing, or it would've been done over a week ago

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Re: Will overpacked straw logs succeed? [Re: weretheshit]
    #7788757 - 12/22/07 12:15 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

2 weeks is a rough time frame. Let it go. Do you think you could case it now? If it is almost done you could case it and it will colonize while it fruits.
Dont trash it. Just wait and see.
Why arent you doing the pf tech?


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Re: Will overpacked straw logs succeed? [Re: tahoe]
    #7788810 - 12/22/07 12:28 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Probably because he felt like using straw.


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Re: Will overpacked straw logs succeed? [Re: Nibin]
    #7788853 - 12/22/07 12:37 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

junior, remind me to slap your mother :wink:


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Re: Will overpacked straw logs succeed? [Re: tahoe]
    #7792367 - 12/23/07 12:38 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Is it possible to cut the plastic now and just pull off the unfinished straw with tweezers and start the fruiting process?


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Re: Will overpacked straw logs succeed? [Re: AncientBeing]
    #7792387 - 12/23/07 12:46 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Its doooomed~


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Re: Will overpacked straw logs succeed? [Re: MonstroniuM]
    #7792416 - 12/23/07 12:55 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

sure you can remove the uncolonized straw.
But first, are we sure it will not colonize in time?
All this fucking around with it is keeping it from colonizing.
Is this straw compressed so that it colonizes faster?

You noobes are so quick to trash, case, pic, worry, and quit.
You have to realize that 99% of the times to colonize that people post are just them bragging. saying that the spores germinated in 3 hours and the jars fully colonized in 24 is just bullshit. people read this and think their jars are doomed because they have not germinated in a week.

This goes for this straw. 2 weeks might be getting to be a long time but it might just need one more day. It might be contamanated but this rookie doesnt know what to look for.

also, if it isnt colonized by now then something else is probably wrong, besides temp. Maybe the ratio of seed to straw wasnt correct.
Maybe the straw was too wet, maybe it is compressed enough, maybe its fermeneting and the rookie doesnt know.

Lets see some pics so we can decide


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Re: Will overpacked straw logs succeed? [Re: tahoe]
    #7792428 - 12/23/07 12:59 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

okay I just saw the grow log, surprising you are not a rookie. Which log is not colonizing? They all look fine after only 4 days?
what strain? Spores101 put out a shit load of bad syringes right before they got booted from the shroomery for bad business. So maybe this is the problem.
Go ahead and pick the uncolonized straw and leave some. Once cased the weight of the casing will compress and help colonize it.
Nice work


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Re: Will overpacked straw logs succeed? [Re: tahoe]
    #7792434 - 12/23/07 01:00 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

tahoe said:
Maybe the ratio of seed to straw wasnt correct.





:lol: :rofl2:

Who you callin a rookie?

You’d think a user that has been here since 03 would at least get some nomenclature down. :rofl:


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Re: Will overpacked straw logs succeed? [Re: tahoe]
    #7792442 - 12/23/07 01:02 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

are you fruiting these from the log without casing? Just gonna cut holes in the plastic?


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Re: Will overpacked straw logs succeed? [Re: tahoe]
    #7792597 - 12/23/07 01:37 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

I'm following RR's tek where you peel the plastic back once a day to let oxygen in and start pinning. The plastic acts as the casing.


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Re: Will overpacked straw logs succeed? [Re: AncientBeing]
    #7792608 - 12/23/07 01:39 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

This is the log in question:


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Re: Will overpacked straw logs succeed? [Re: AncientBeing]
    #7792919 - 12/23/07 03:28 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

I found the problem, straw is too wet from overpacking:

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/7792916#Post7792916


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Re: Will overpacked straw logs succeed? [Re: AncientBeing]
    #7795124 - 12/24/07 09:56 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

That straw log is fine. There is more than enough mycelial mass to overtake just about any contamination, unless trich has managed to colonize the inside of the straw.

Let it finish.

For future reference, you ALWAYS want bulk sub to be LIGHTLY packed. The mycelium has to reach up and through any substrate you give it, and packing it under pressure makes it difficult.


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Re: Will overpacked straw logs succeed? [Re: Sillicybin]
    #7795250 - 12/24/07 10:54 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

I birthed the log and removed the uncolonized parts with scissors and now it is pinning fine. The areas wouldnt colonize because they were too wet, probably from overpacking and trapping excess water. I cut more vent slits in my remaining logs so hopefully they will improve.


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Re: Will overpacked straw logs succeed? [Re: AncientBeing]
    #19319519 - 12/24/13 02:25 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Have to post one more time to view link. I am having same problem with poor pin set probablly due to to much moisture and not enough holes


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Re: Will overpacked straw logs succeed? [Re: ohdizzyme]
    #19319523 - 12/24/13 02:28 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

ok well go post it to the boards and don't forget the pics


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