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OfflineNyarlethotep
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Re: How do you handle a bad salvia trip? [Re: shashasalivia]
    #15558911 - 12/22/11 08:40 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

I'm curious to know: How bad can it possibly be? The trip only lasts maybe 5-10 min. at the most. Any bad trip you have in that short of time, can't be too terrifying, because as soon as it gets extreme, the trip ends, and you start coming down.

That's why I think it's actually probably one of the better psychedelics to start off on. Super potent, and possibly more powerful than any other, yet short acting, so you don't lose your mind. It takes you to the other-realms and back, with no harm done.

Granted, I've only smoked very low doses of the extract, and felt an intense peak for like, 20-30 seconds, and then nothing. Like a rush, coupled with a tingling of my spine, intense laughter, and mild change in depth perception, which ends a minute or so later.


I've also smoked some old dried out leaves of the stuff, but all that did was give a mild cannabis type high. I'm thinking of getting a hold of some more potent Salvia soon and trying it out, just to see what it's like. I want to have a sitter, tho, in case I get up and try crawling on top of my couch, or walking into a wall, lol.


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Re: How do you handle a bad salvia trip? [Re: jumpingjunmbojet]
    #15559132 - 12/22/11 09:26 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

I don't care what any one says once you put a half of a gram of 20x in a pipe and suck it Down in one hit this idea of letting go becomes irrelevant to me. Simply either cause everything happens so fast or seems so fast because of amnesia of most the expierence. So fast in fact it seems near impossible to recognize it's time to let go. My salvia trip seemed to last about 15 seconds which consisted halfly of me seeing normal reality the way it used to be and half non reality or a negative reality where space and objects were in the room normally but in black negative film type view where the out lines of objects consisted of electric multicolored lines. At first going from reality to non reality so fast frightened me to the point of leaping out of the couch i was sitting on to a standing position... This leap sent me back to reguar reality where I was left disoriented. I stood there bewildered. I then felt a presence to th left of me and slowly turned my head. FLASH! Back to to the negative non reality. I saw before me something that appeared to be dressed in a brown cloak. It wore a mask made of what appeared to be some type of wood. Wide eyes and and a gaping mouth were carved,into the mask but facial features were absent, just darkness where they should have been. It's stiched leather gloves and hands made of what also appeared to be wood slowly raised up toward my direction with an open hand. Whatever it was began to shake it's hand and heavily vibrate the non reality I was in. The pain of this action was unbearable and seemed impossible to stand against and resist. The pain I felt that night was worse than any I had previously experienced. Imagine the single worst cramp you have ever had be it from sitting on your fat ass chillin on couch eating doritos and watching the Americas dumbest series or be it from being on one of those shows getting your ass tazed by an extremely high powered police tazer, and multiply that feeling by ten and imagine it all over your body. Every musle cramping to the hardest point at the same time as you try to resist the seizure like symptoms. Then, that was it as soon as it began I came back or at least it's all I remember. It was a good learning expierence. Only fuck that bitch as hard as you wish to be fucked. in other words moderation, caution, and preparedness. Peace!


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OfflineNyarlethotep
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Re: How do you handle a bad salvia trip? [Re: Cactilove]
    #15559167 - 12/22/11 09:31 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

That actually sounds really cool to me man. I hear that each experience is more vivid, and different than the last. The muscle cramps aren't a consistent experience. Some get them, some don't.

My opinion is that you got freaked, froze, and then tensed up from being in shock. I don't know if it was the actual chemical causing your body to do that, but your description makes it sound more like you got scared and tensed up. If it was anything like being tazed, you'd be in complete agony, and immediately drop to the ground twitching. 


The tensing up has been known to happen to people during a frightening or traumatizing experience. That's what I'm figuring happened to you.

Sensory overload can cause this. It can also cause epileptic type seizures in some people.(though this is rare)


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Re: How do you handle a bad salvia trip? [Re: Nyarlethotep]
    #15559302 - 12/22/11 10:02 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Hey dude, well this salvia and dmt trips have this "second efect" to call it like that.. that is you!! Depending on the person but a person that has never done it, has to be more into it.. did you know what was coming?? i guess you did.. hopefully.. anyway what i mean is that before you do it you have to be kind of prepared, you gotta make sure you are not having a bad time in real life, or you are sad or not feeling good, because this trip is hard and it reflects on how you are with yourself or bad mood, etc..
If you are having a bad time or one of this options and you do it, you only have two option answers.. 1. to have a really bad trip and even after the trip you keep on thinking why did this hapen to me or why did i see this (unconscionsly you know it) maybe you did something wrong and or for some reason you have bad vibes...
2. The other option is that you have a good trip, encountering deeply with yourself and might find the answer for what you are looking for in real life.

This feeling you have it will go away if you put they wrong things ir order or just find that thing that bothers you and straight it up..

Hope i helped, thats what i believe.. peace out


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Re: How do you handle a bad salvia trip? [Re: SDP]
    #15559655 - 12/22/11 11:42 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

SDP said:
Sounds like your shaken up, possibly due to anxiety about the fear of fragility.

After my last and strongest salvia trip, and after someone I know had a VERY intense experience, there was this "reality could crumble at any minute" feeling that is quite unsettling. Made me shaky for a couple weeks or so every time i got high. The other guy was very cloudy-headed, anxious, and shaky for a couple days after with dreams that revealed to him more of the experience he had forgotten.

Now that your body and mind see how fragile life and reality can be it will take some time to get over the fright of facing the acceptance of death.

I thought about my salvia experience for 6+ months afterward, reality shattering... you eventually think about it less and it ends up fading in your mind as no more then a bad memory of something so unconceivable that your psyche is pushed to remember the experience vaguely to avoid recognizing the fears you faced.




Very good post.



My breakthrough with salvia was pretty fucking intense needless to say. It definately left me shook for a while after.

I think it was even in the back of my mind when I took shrooms with rue recently and it triggered a negative reaction to the shrooms - WHICH I NEVER HAD BEFORE my breakthrough with sally. I think i had a pretty brutal bad trip on shrooms that night which in some aspects was worse than my salvia experience.

Anyway,

Im good now. Am even thinking about hitting some salvia soon in the next few days.

As time passes, youll find yourself thinking about it less and consequently wont be freaked out by it so much.


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OfflineZulu The Most High
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Re: How do you handle a bad salvia trip? [Re: Nyarlethotep]
    #15559715 - 12/23/11 12:06 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

Nyarlethotep said:
I'm curious to know: How bad can it possibly be? The trip only lasts maybe 5-10 min. at the most. Any bad trip you have in that short of time, can't be too terrifying, because as soon as it gets extreme, the trip ends, and you start coming down.

That's why I think it's actually probably one of the better psychedelics to start off on. Super potent, and possibly more powerful than any other, yet short acting, so you don't lose your mind. It takes you to the other-realms and back, with no harm done.

Granted, I've only smoked very low doses of the extract, and felt an intense peak for like, 20-30 seconds, and then nothing. Like a rush, coupled with a tingling of my spine, intense laughter, and mild change in depth perception, which ends a minute or so later.


I've also smoked some old dried out leaves of the stuff, but all that did was give a mild cannabis type high. I'm thinking of getting a hold of some more potent Salvia soon and trying it out, just to see what it's like. I want to have a sitter, tho, in case I get up and try crawling on top of my couch, or walking into a wall, lol.




well, to be brief and ot the point,

my breakthrough scared me in that I was constantly thinking about it and hoping that I dont get sent to salvia land after i die. salvia land was pretty fucking dark and scary. long hallways, people made into boxes and stored like a warehouse. that type of shit.

Also, the experience of having the world infront of you folded SHUT like a damn book (like the inception scene) like the WHOLE DAMN WORLD as you know it is nothing more than a pop up book that can be folded shut at any time. that scared the fuck out of me.

Sometimes I think to myself, what if on Dec 21, 2012, thats what happens. The world just starts to fold. And everything just gets shut close.

Im actually pretty excited to smoke some now. lol

Im wondering how similar its going to be and if i can remember more of it...


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Re: How do you handle a bad salvia trip? [Re: Zulu The Most High] * 1
    #15560392 - 12/23/11 06:24 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

embarassingly


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Re: How do you handle a bad salvia trip? [Re: iorgos]
    #15560532 - 12/23/11 08:01 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Bad Salvia trip? HAHA it makes you too retarded to understand fear. If you think Salvia trips can get bad, try the big boy psychedelics.


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Re: How do you handle a bad salvia trip? [Re: iorgos]
    #15560715 - 12/23/11 08:58 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

The last time I did it, I went into some very strange corner of the universe. I totally freaked out that the world was being put inside a pill capsule. There were a lot of people there who really bugged me out, I started reacting violently and some people got really scared. It sucked. My only advice, don't use salvia in the wrong place or at the wrong time. It's a crazy drug.


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Re: How do you handle a bad salvia trip? [Re: Nyarlethotep]
    #15561543 - 12/23/11 11:46 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Uhhhh ya as I said complete agony, forgot to mention, Yes I woke up on the floor to one of my buddies staring at me jaw dropped to the floor. Ya it would have been fun if there were no cramps or pain involved. But as I said worst pain I have ever felt. I have been pistol whipped mothafucka, and that shit is like getting a present compared to this shit. Why don't you try it out?

Ved.


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Re: How do you handle a bad salvia trip? [Re: Cactilove]
    #15646361 - 01/10/12 05:46 PM (12 years, 21 days ago)



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Re: How do you handle a bad salvia trip? [Re: felix4life]
    #15646403 - 01/10/12 05:56 PM (12 years, 21 days ago)

You wait 5 minutes....


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Re: How do you handle a bad salvia trip? [Re: felix4life]
    #15673565 - 01/16/12 01:00 PM (12 years, 15 days ago)

Haha dope cartoon


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Re: How do you handle a bad salvia trip? [Re: Lucy]
    #15673710 - 01/16/12 01:45 PM (12 years, 15 days ago)

Quote:

Lucy said:
You wait 5 minutes....



haha what i was going to say


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Re: How do you handle a bad salvia trip? [Re: Soluminia]
    #15677496 - 01/17/12 10:50 AM (12 years, 14 days ago)

Uhhh what's 5 minutes?


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Re: How do you handle a bad salvia trip? [Re: Cactilove]
    #15680634 - 01/17/12 09:22 PM (12 years, 14 days ago)

All ive ever had to do was tell myself even when going through the scariest trip that salvia can produce is that im on a drug and repeat that to myself its all the drug it will be over in 10 mins and so on that has always helped me pull through it


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Re: How do you handle a bad salvia trip? [Re: Blackghost420]
    #15681134 - 01/17/12 10:51 PM (12 years, 14 days ago)

How bout the people who forgot they took the drug?


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Re: How do you handle a bad salvia trip? [Re: Cactilove]
    #15681286 - 01/17/12 11:18 PM (12 years, 14 days ago)

take a healthy dose of ginkgo 30+ minutes prior. Try it. I'm not sure if it's just me...


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Re: How do you handle a bad salvia trip? [Re: Cactilove]
    #15681314 - 01/17/12 11:22 PM (12 years, 14 days ago)

Quote:

Cactilove said:
How bout the people who forgot they took the drug?



5min later they remember they took the drug


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Re: How do you handle a bad salvia trip? [Re: Soluminia]
    #15681364 - 01/17/12 11:31 PM (12 years, 14 days ago)

I did have a buddy who had a panic attack on sally. We were in a dark shed, and he got claustrophobic. A couple minutes later he was fine, and talking normally.


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