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Offlinejumpingjunmbojet
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How do you handle a bad salvia trip?
    #7788479 - 12/22/07 10:26 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

This post isnt going to be about my trip, as it was similarly awful and scary like so many other accounts, but what about those guys now?

So, just quickly- i tripped all over my balls (20x) and thought I died bigtime and that i was stuck in one moment in time for all eternity being hit in the face and laughed at by everything in the most terrifying way possible. It got to a point where I left the room to make sure that the world was still there. It was far and away the worst experience of my life. Trip-sitter didnt help, thought it would be wise to just agree with whatever i was saying.

I felt really wierd for a few days and in the meantime all i wanna do is forget about it. So my question is as follows- did anyone ever end up getting obsessed with their trip, i think about it a lot more than i want to, and scarily enough i even have dreams about it sometimes. Even though it was such a short experience it is powerful but nobody seems to report post traumatic stress disorder or anything like that...

So yeah, im pretty sure i dont wanna try salvia ever again, at least not as strong, but in the meantime, how do i get rid of this weird feeling? I read in another post that the trip was like a perfectly real 'childrens hardcore nightmare' and thats an accurate description and now whenever i think of it i feel really strange and i hate it. Any opinions on this, does it go away?

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Re: How do you handle a bad salvia trip? [Re: jumpingjunmbojet]
    #7788506 - 12/22/07 10:36 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Smoke a big fat blunt.. Trip LSD next time.. That distant reality feeling goes away in a day..


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Re: How do you handle a bad salvia trip? [Re: jumpingjunmbojet]
    #7788532 - 12/22/07 10:46 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

in my opinion,
this sticks with you because the whole making sure of something being OK is a very common complex and you snagged the very key motif of the uncertainty complex at it's heart,
now you are astonished at how it grips your attention and you are still fussing about it... there shold be no blame about that!

anyway that is about the content of your trip.
and being astonished is about the nature of salvia with it's intensely resonnating layered stream of consciousness.

content is not really possible to control
the intensity of the layering is controllable by dosage,

yet the real thing you can learn is relaxing in the face of compulsions, sensations, and phenomena.

beginning to let go, continuing to let go, being persistent about letting go, and continuing to begin to let go are the cornerstones of a good psychedelic experience, whether it is a 3minute-10 minute salvia or dmt trip or 5-10 hour mushroom or lsd trip.


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Re: How do you handle a bad salvia trip? [Re: redgreenvines]
    #7788561 - 12/22/07 10:56 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

the best thing is to smoke another bowl.

seriously though, my first trip was my last. it was the single most scariest thing Ive ever experienced.


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Re: How do you handle a bad salvia trip? [Re: jumpingjunmbojet]
    #7788579 - 12/22/07 11:03 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

I believe Redgreenvines to be totally correct about learning to relax in the face of uncertainty!

Wait for it...GO!

You could also apply new labeling or trying to find a use for the "negative sensations"

In a way I purposely use Salvia to experience weird shit, be it good or bad. Out of my 20 or so times with Salvia, about 5 I'd say were BAD, 5 GOOD, and the rest left me saying "what?", which could be either good or bad.

When ever I get a bad trip, there is a certain sadistic glee inside me that knows I just had something at least cool happen to me; The feelings of intense negative vibes could now be used a source to form your own stuff: Art, music, writing trip reports for instance, just being a plain ol' psychonaut, continually and romantically searching the vast reaches.

I've had shitty times in trips at times (most recently Salvia, actually), but at the end of the day, as long as you got friends, family, and some way to be in love, most people are fine after a bad trip. At least that is how feel:shrugs:


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Re: How do you handle a bad salvia trip? [Re: redgreenvines]
    #7788698 - 12/22/07 11:54 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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redgreenvines said:

yet the real thing you can learn is relaxing in the face of compulsions, sensations, and phenomena.






Thats makes sense, whats the point of being alive if you arent willing to try and experience the different sensations of life. Its weird, some days i laugh about the trip other days i sort of contemplate it.

Its cool also to see im not the only one hesitabt about trying it again. If you let it scare you too much then salvia wins...

take it easy


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Re: How do you handle a bad salvia trip? [Re: jumpingjunmbojet]
    #7789059 - 12/22/07 01:27 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

The absolute best thing you can do imo is to do it again.

That worked well for me. I even learned to enjoy it and have good experiences with it after a while.

I'm not saying that your next trip will automatically be better for you. It may not. It won't get any worse though. You will come to terms with what you have experienced quicker and better than if you just stick with what you have gotten so far.

Think about it. It can't really hurt you, only scare you. Like anything else that scares you, you can get used to it or let it consume you.


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Re: How do you handle a bad salvia trip? [Re: TripityDooDaDay]
    #7789122 - 12/22/07 01:49 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

someone probably said this but relax, its just a drug, it will go away soon enough.


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Re: How do you handle a bad salvia trip? [Re: jumpingjunmbojet]
    #7789197 - 12/22/07 02:10 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Sounds like your shaken up, possibly due to anxiety about the fear of fragility.

After my last and strongest salvia trip, and after someone I know had a VERY intense experience, there was this "reality could crumble at any minute" feeling that is quite unsettling. Made me shaky for a couple weeks or so every time i got high. The other guy was very cloudy-headed, anxious, and shaky for a couple days after with dreams that revealed to him more of the experience he had forgotten.

Now that your body and mind see how fragile life and reality can be it will take some time to get over the fright of facing the acceptance of death.

I thought about my salvia experience for 6+ months afterward, reality shattering... you eventually think about it less and it ends up fading in your mind as no more then a bad memory of something so unconceivable that your psyche is pushed to remember the experience vaguely to avoid recognizing the fears you faced.


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Re: How do you handle a bad salvia trip? [Re: SDP]
    #7789502 - 12/22/07 03:42 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

forgetting is the hardest thing a person can do
ask any widow that
the only thing u can do is fill ur head with something more positive
most ppl can and never will be able to handle extracts
i suggest do plain leaf and then ur bound to have a better experience
then u wont h8 salvia so much
and knowing that its just a drug doesnt help when ur mind is fucking with urself
u just cant get 2 that level is all
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Re: How do you handle a bad salvia trip? [Re: Coaster]
    #7791294 - 12/23/07 01:19 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

I don't know why people go for 20x in the first place.

My bro thought he was all cool with 20x despite my warnings and he ended up having a similar trip. Afterwards he ran to his wife and just "wanted to be held".

Stick with the 6x or plain leaf.


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Re: How do you handle a bad salvia trip? [Re: felix4life]
    #7791300 - 12/23/07 01:22 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

I did the 6x (probably more hits then I should have) last year and felt like I was being spinned into a vortex and then I felt like I was in a gloomy 1970ish area where I was being ridiculed by abunch of beings. I thought I might not make it back.


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Re: How do you handle a bad salvia trip? [Re: felix4life]
    #7791303 - 12/23/07 01:23 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Anyways to answer your question, do some light exercise and eat some good organic fruit and greens for a few days and see how that goes. Simple things do wonders.

Also, write out your trip and look at it from a positive and constructive perspective. For eg. I'm sure the trip made you realise what you want by experience what you don't want, life ain't have bad :smile:


Edited by felix4life (12/23/07 01:24 AM)


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Re: How do you handle a bad salvia trip? [Re: felix4life]
    #7791329 - 12/23/07 01:35 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Wait for a couple minute until it's all over.


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Re: How do you handle a bad salvia trip? [Re: BUDDHA_702]
    #7791387 - 12/23/07 01:59 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

dude last time I smoked 20x salvia I had already eaten six double dip white angels and it went great.

Dude just eat a lot of boomers, they'll give you the magic power to think really really hard.


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Re: How do you handle a bad salvia trip? [Re: felix4life]
    #7791480 - 12/23/07 02:55 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

felix4life said:
Anyways to answer your question, do some light exercise and eat some good organic fruit and greens for a few days and see how that goes. Simple things do wonders.

Also, write out your trip and look at it from a positive and constructive perspective. For eg. I'm sure the trip made you realise what you want by experience what you don't want, life ain't have bad :smile:


:thumbup:

I did some hard sober thinking last night, and if anyone else has a similar sort of feeling with a view to their salvia experience, then this is how i think i see it-

I dont regret doing it, and if you do you might want to reconsider. Salvia can teach an important lesson about fragility, as mentioned before; which is 'education' you wont get any other way. If you learn to accept what you did and focus on the positive things you can draw from the experience you should be fine.

As for eating well and excersizing, thats always good advice. Went to the gym yesterday and then went out for sushi with some friends. I think thats when i realised that even though you can draw something from an experience that frightened you it cant get any worse; and even that is quite trivial in the grand scheme of things.

I think this thread has definetely made it easier for me to think about the trip and come to terms with some of the weirder aspects.

take it easy!


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Re: How do you handle a bad salvia trip? [Re: jumpingjunmbojet]
    #7791493 - 12/23/07 03:05 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Maybe what seems like a bad trip on the surface is more then that, thus is why you can't get it off your mind.


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Re: How do you handle a bad salvia trip? [Re: jumpingjunmbojet]
    #10342865 - 05/15/09 10:18 AM (14 years, 8 months ago)

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jumpingjunmbojet said:
This post isnt going to be about my trip, as it was similarly awful and scary like so many other accounts, but what about those guys now?

So, just quickly- i tripped all over my balls (20x) and thought I died bigtime and that i was stuck in one moment in time for all eternity being hit in the face and laughed at by everything in the most terrifying way possible. It got to a point where I left the room to make sure that the world was still there. It was far and away the worst experience of my life. Trip-sitter didnt help, thought it would be wise to just agree with whatever i was saying.

I felt really wierd for a few days and in the meantime all i wanna do is forget about it. So my question is as follows- did anyone ever end up getting obsessed with their trip, i think about it a lot more than i want to, and scarily enough i even have dreams about it sometimes. Even though it was such a short experience it is powerful but nobody seems to report post traumatic stress disorder or anything like that...

So yeah, im pretty sure i dont wanna try salvia ever again, at least not as strong, but in the meantime, how do i get rid of this weird feeling? I read in another post that the trip was like a perfectly real 'childrens hardcore nightmare' and thats an accurate description and now whenever i think of it i feel really strange and i hate it. Any opinions on this, does it go away?

Peace



I had a trip I like to call, "oh my God Im going to die!" It was SO scary. I started the night out as normal. Friends of mine, experienced users like myself, smoking out of our bong. Laughs and good, fun, trips. The last time that night I had smoked, I noticed something was different, I felt as if I had like, died or something. My best friend was right there, and he was also tripping on his own. He was part of my trip though. I felt as if I was pulled to the ground, and in front of me was a tree. I soon realized I was kneeling before the tree, sort of like a judgment day thing. We (my friend and I) were before God being judged. I saw an angel taking my friend away and I say to the angel, why cant I go? Where is my angel? then I look to my side and say, "oh, she already left me". Then I say, wait, I was a good person! Why cant I go? then I start to cry and scream to my friend, "Tell Him, Tell Him I was a good person!" The tree starts to turn into a black swirl, I could see souls of the condemned sinking into it. I was starting to slowly sink too.. but kept resisting... The only thing on my mind was my mother.. I look to my friend Jessica, who for some reason was an angel, and say in my head first, "Tell my mom I love her". I say to her, Tell my mom... and then I catch myself.. I started coming out of it.. "Wait, No! Im a good person! Im not going to hell!" My refusal to die spiritually caused everything to turn like a smokey, cloudy color. And I was sitting with two angels, who were actually my friends. We began to talk about Jesus and my life and following God's Word. The trip ends with me and the angels praying and thanking God for my life. Well anyway, every now and then I have a dream of the part where I begin to sink in the black swirl, then I wake up freaking out.. It had not happened to me in a long time, but about two nights ago it just happened, and keeps going on... It has been about a year since then and I sometimes will dream that. If you havent already, I strongly suggest you not mess with it man.. It will change your life, but not at the expense of what I go through some nights.. take care -Rico
I forgot to mention I heard voices too at the beginning.. Yelling at me, "Thats what you get, thats what you get!" It was jacked up! Worst trip I have ever had on a drug. But NEVER AGAIN!
I am asking the same question, I went to my pastor about it.. I just want to dreams to go away! I want to be able to sleep normally one night with out having that scary dream/trip.. It sucks. I just pray.. It does help. But I guess thats what I believe. I dont know about you, but maybe you should pray too


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Re: How do you handle a bad salvia trip? [Re: rico915]
    #15558884 - 12/22/11 08:34 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

I have tried salvia a painted handful of times. Although each experience was unique there were similar qualities that connected each of the trips. First my whole body would sweat just a little, then everything would turn into the same substance, which can be best described as clay. The world would then re-organize itself from that material into a new world--and I was tripping.

When the trip fully hit, my first thought was: "Holy fuck! I'm back!!" The feeling of utter familiarity was profound. I also did not remember smoking so the new reality in which I was transported was THE reality. It was extremely intense and frightening. That was the first time I tried salvia it was 80x extract from New Zealand. I was in another world, looking down at myself.

I have thought a lot about each of my trips as time goes by. The immediate fear while tripping and directly afterwards will fade. It has been about a two years since my extreme salvia trip. As time has passed I have gained a lot of insight and inspiration from my trips. Salvia is intense, though. I liked the quoted description of salvia in this thread which states that salvia is like a "children's hardcore nightmare," that is a very apt description.

I have had those salvia dreams that are referred to in this thread, usually as I was falling asleep and stoned. They cause me to jolt awake with the fear of losing myself forever.

I know this is a really old thread, but to whomever may read this in the future: a measure of fear is helpful so that you do not totally float off in your trip, but do not dwell on it completely. Maybe during your trip you can't help it because your screaming, "Oh god I am stuck here forever!" and the three minutes feels like eternity, but when you are coming down, fill yourself with the space you where in and ponder it. It is an experience. While part of your trip is you freaking out there are also other experiences that you had, meditate on those.

My third salvia trip I was part of an eternity system, made of the clay like substance I mentioned before. I was freaked out but I had some really strong feelings that I have been able to cultivate, e.g. the feelings of complete predetermination and utter eternity--pretty big feelings!! Those are the feelings that have ultimately stayed with me, heightened by the twist of fear in my stomach, but not ruled by it.

If you feel funky for a while after you trip, make yourself cozy and think about how you can express what you felt in your trip creatively, and in a way that can be understood in this reality by other people that have not experienced the things that salvia has enabled you to divine. It may take time, but comfort is the main thing, make yourself comfortable with this reality. Eat mac and cheese. You are safe. Hang out with some friends, do things that make you feel alive, recall cherished memories. All of that will help.

"Your pain is the breaking of the shell that encloses your understanding."(Kahlil Gibran)


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Re: How do you handle a bad salvia trip? [Re: jumpingjunmbojet]
    #15558905 - 12/22/11 08:39 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Nevermind, STOP REVIVING OLD THREADS FOR YOUR FIRST FUCKING POST YOU WEIRDO'S :sun:! Jesus christ, this is like the 10th time i've come across this in a week.


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