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Re: Thought everything went good... What happened??? [Re: veda_sticks]
    #7789267 - 12/22/07 02:37 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

The most potent cubes I've ever had were grown on straight cased WBS...

There have been multiple threads about growing on white rice and white rice flour wherein the produced mushrooms were inactive. It seems that either the dehusking or polishing process of white rice removes vital nutrients for the synthesis of psilocybin.

There are probably still trace amounts of these nutrients in the rice, however, and therefore active alkaloids may be present in trace amounts.


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Re: Thought everything went good... What happened??? [Re: Sillicybin]
    #7789277 - 12/22/07 02:40 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

funny you mention that. The weakest ones that I have seen wer grown on wbs. This only happened with eq's. Everything else was fine on wbs


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Re: Thought everything went good... What happened??? [Re: tahoe]
    #7789307 - 12/22/07 02:47 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Hey I was the one that orignally posted this one. I tried eating my mushrooms and it felt like there was some psychoactive in them but just didnt seem to be enough to do anything. I am a newbie and that was my first attempt, didnt get all the info on the flour I used though. What is the WBS and EQ you guys are talking about? I wouldnt mind trying a different tek but there are so many I just dont know what way to go with.


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Re: Thought everything went good... What happened??? [Re: djcorus86]
    #7789317 - 12/22/07 02:49 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

I am the only one that has stood up and said that equadors suck! wbs is wild bird seed, the tech is, well read up. You might not be ready for it


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Re: Thought everything went good... What happened??? [Re: djcorus86]
    #7789321 - 12/22/07 02:49 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

WBS = Wild Bird Seed, one of the multiple kinds of grains used for spawn

EQ = Ecuador strain (I think)


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Re: Thought everything went good... What happened??? [Re: Nibin]
    #7789329 - 12/22/07 02:52 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Yeah I'll have to do some research before jumping into WBS so I guess for now I'll stick with the PF Tek. make my change to BRF and hope all goes well.


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Re: Thought everything went good... What happened??? [Re: djcorus86]
    #7789378 - 12/22/07 03:06 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

brf is key, and it smells a lot better


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Re: Thought everything went good... What happened??? [Re: tahoe]
    #7790186 - 12/22/07 06:41 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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I am the only one that has stood up and said that equadors suck! wbs is wild bird seed, the tech is, well read up. You might not be ready for it


dont tell me that i just shot up 8 jars with EQ ive been reading up a good strain for first timers an i thought EQ an golden teachers were the best for first timers potency wise , what strains do you like?an why do EQ suck are they weak or shitty fruiting ?im just trying to get as much info from more experience growers like you.


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Re: Thought everything went good... What happened??? [Re: Substance D]
    #7790603 - 12/22/07 09:39 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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I am the only one that has stood up and said that equadors suck! wbs is wild bird seed, the tech is, well read up. You might not be ready for it


dont tell me that i just shot up 8 jars with EQ ive been reading up a good strain for first timers an i thought EQ an golden teachers were the best for first timers potency wise , what strains do you like?an why do EQ suck are they weak or shitty fruiting ?im just trying to get as much info from more experience growers like you.




Since jars are made of glass you obviously will get no growth. On the other hand, if you shot up some kind of substrate that happened to be in jars, it would be different.

Everybody!! Stop saying jars, without saying what was in them. It could be a LC, BRF cakes, WBS, rye, popcorn or even poo, and each will require a different answer.

What was in your jars substance D?


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Re: Thought everything went good... What happened??? [Re: Nibin]
    #7790920 - 12/22/07 11:10 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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What was in your jars substance D?



I bet there was substrate in them


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Re: Thought everything went good... What happened??? [Re: tahoe]
    #7790967 - 12/22/07 11:19 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Move up to rye and you wont have to worry about that.


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Re: Thought everything went good... What happened??? [Re: tahoe]
    #7791298 - 12/23/07 01:20 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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are you sure about this?? This sort of sound like bullshit. I doupt this guy geneticaly made a mushroom that is inactive. I would think the pores would be fine.

as for the mushrooms being weak becasue of substrate. I find that equadors are weak when grown on wbs. This is the only strain affected by this. B+. gt.tc.pes. all have been fine but the eq always come up short



By meaning inactive i am meaning it is below the levels that he can feel i did not say they are genetically inactive , as said trace levels of actives would be still in there but not enough for him to trip .


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Re: Thought everything went good... What happened??? [Re: veda_sticks]
    #7791602 - 12/23/07 05:44 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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Ill keep that in mind for WBS

Was that spawned or just straight cased??? i would have thought that if it was spawned to poo there would be plenty of the right nuitrients.

nevermind

its 12:15pm over here, been up since 9.30am

Im off to work soon :smile:




Oh my God!  Don't go saying that.  I have 22 quart jars of Ecuadors  on WBS going right now!  They are scheduled to be spawned to Coir and worm castings in about a week.  Man, I will cry if what you say is true.  On the other hand, The exact same procedure with F+ was INCREDIBLE!  An eighth sent you to the moon, (and Mars!)


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Re: Thought everything went good... What happened??? [Re: The shroomy 1]
    #7791649 - 12/23/07 07:00 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Well we'll find out if they are week on wbs soon or if it was just a ginetic error.

I found that EQ's were very potent frm BRF, very visual i thought as well compart to my lipa yias.


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Re: Thought everything went good... What happened??? [Re: The shroomy 1]
    #7791668 - 12/23/07 07:10 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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Ill keep that in mind for WBS

Was that spawned or just straight cased??? i would have thought that if it was spawned to poo there would be plenty of the right nuitrients.

nevermind

its 12:15pm over here, been up since 9.30am

Im off to work soon :smile:




Oh my God!  Don't go saying that.  I have 22 quart jars of Ecuadors  on WBS going right now!  They are scheduled to be spawned to Coir and worm castings in about a week.  Man, I will cry if what you say is true.  On the other hand, The exact same procedure with F+ was INCREDIBLE!  An eighth sent you to the moon, (and Mars!)




Since you will be spawning to coir, they won't be EQ's grown just on WBS, there will be other nutrient sources


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Re: Thought everything went good... What happened??? [Re: Nibin]
    #7791681 - 12/23/07 07:17 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Whew!!!


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Re: Thought everything went good... What happened??? [Re: Nibin]
    #7793208 - 12/23/07 05:01 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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tahoe said:
I am the only one that has stood up and said that equadors suck! wbs is wild bird seed, the tech is, well read up. You might not be ready for it


dont tell me that i just shot up 8 jars with EQ ive been reading up a good strain for first timers an i thought EQ an golden teachers were the best for first timers potency wise , what strains do you like?an why do EQ suck are they weak or shitty fruiting ?im just trying to get as much info from more experience growers like you.




Since jars are made of glass you obviously will get no growth. On the other hand, if you shot up some kind of substrate that happened to be in jars, it would be different.

Everybody!! Stop saying jars, without saying what was in them. It could be a LC, BRF cakes, WBS, rye, popcorn or even poo, and each will require a different answer.

What was in your jars substance D?


sorry, BRF an verm,an 1 jar of LC


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