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Unfolding Nature Shop: Unfolding Nature: Being in the Implicate Order

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Offlinezappaisgod
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Re: An independant country within the US? [Re: Mystic_Cannibal]
    #7849310 - 01/08/08 05:39 PM (16 years, 24 days ago)

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Mystic_Cannibal said:
You cant fuck whoever you want because you have no right to infringe on other peoples freedom.



Other people now live on the land these children think will be theirs.
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Im guessing that there is a whole lot of people who dont want to fuck you but anyways, I agreed they wont get what they deserve. However they do have the right to the land legally, and its their rights that were originally being infringed upon.




Originally? Which tribe? Was that the first tribe to claim or inhabit that land? Rights by what judge? Dream on amateur lawyer.
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Its to bad there are so many white squatters there who wouldnt be willing to give up American citizenship, though they have been given that freedom.
Yknow the freedom to determine who rules you? its called democracy. When you realize that then you see the white people on Lakota land are not having their freedoms impinged as they never had a right to be there in the first place. They were mislead into thinking they own the land and the Lakotas graciously will let them stay. So the Lakotas are not free and you are incredibly naive if you think so.




They are free to do many things. They are not free to do others. Follow a point. They fucking lost and can either adjust and move on or whine. What they can't do is carve out their own country.
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You say you didnt intend to get in an argument about what is right or wrong, then does this mean you understand that the American government is wrong by their own rules?




Nope. What it means is that I'm not interested in arguing legal matters with people who get their legal education from comic books.
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Not to mention the moral issues. I do understand the Lakotas will not be successful unless maybe white peopl e all around the country rise up in violent revolution with them. This is definitely not going to happen however especially not for the Lakotas sake. I do think its naive and wishful thinking to say the Lakotas are gonna have freedom to rule themselves, especially with all that land, even though it is the morally right thing. I never said otherwise so try checking in with that thing I mentioned before yknow REALITY it will really help you make your point in the future.

PS I dont smoke anything, I very rarely do psychedelics anymore I dont even drink coffee so get yourself a new catch phrase kemosabe.




If you had read the whole thread you would know that my keep smoking was for EP. Until you seemed to jibe in with an opinion that this was possible. Since you don't seem to actually think this is possible I can only say, "Good for you and please help brother EP to shed his pipe habit, it is clouding his reason."


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OfflineMystic_Cannibal
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Re: An independant country within the US? [Re: EntheogenicPeace]
    #7849319 - 01/08/08 05:40 PM (16 years, 24 days ago)

its pretty obvious logic cannot penetrate your reality filter zappa, you wont listen to what others say and then make arguments based on things they never said so why dont you just go watch american idol or something


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InvisibleDisco Cat
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Re: An independent country within the US? [Re: Disco Cat]
    #8062879 - 02/24/08 12:35 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Lakotah reps gave this document to the following embassies in Washington this week.


Russia
Serbia
Bolivia
Venezuela
South Africa
Ireland
France
Nicaragua
East Timor
Chile
Turkey
Finland
Iceland
Uraguay



They should also give it to Canada, who voluntarily gave up something like 2000 square km to the Nisga'a natives to self-govern in Northern BC some few years ago.


Edited by Disco Cat (02/24/08 12:45 AM)


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