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Disco Cat
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Re: An independant country within the US? [Re: freddurgan]
#7797088 - 12/25/07 12:02 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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freddurgan said: I'm confused about something. Based on the pictures the OP posted the Lakota territory looks HUGE, but based on the Wikipedia article on Indian reservations
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_reservation
the territory looks much smaller. What's the deal?
The Lakota claimed territory is comprised of more than just indian reservations. The map has 3 differently coloured types of territory: Unceded Indian Territory, Indian Resevations, and the Great Sioux Resevation - which I don't know much about, but according to the wiki page for it, sounds like its a national park. The listing of indian reservations corresponds on both maps:
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Re: An independant country within the US? [Re: Disco Cat]
#7798313 - 12/25/07 01:31 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Re: An independent country within the US? [Re: johnm214]
#7801661 - 12/26/07 06:32 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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I am hoping that the Anisinabi will link to thire Lakota brothers and make native lands spread east to the great lakes.Russel Means has been a long time hero of mine since the AIM days. In the 70,s with AIM the US fed gov took a fast and hard stance with the natives I expect no difference with the current movement.My wife is NA and we still have aunts and other family on the res in Michigan. 70 years after the US government contained a independent people into submission another country try-ed the same thing using the same tactics but concentration camps and genocide didn't seem to settle as well as reservations and manifest destiny.
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Re: An independent country within the US? [Re: Mosby]
#7801665 - 12/26/07 06:38 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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This is great. Lakota's are big pro-hemp. We just may be making progress.
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Re: An independent country within the US? [Re: Mosby]
#7801833 - 12/26/07 07:40 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Re: An independent country within the US? [Re: Mosby]
#7802017 - 12/26/07 08:51 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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The U.S. federal government would never allow this to happen.
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Silversoul
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Re: An independent country within the US? [Re: RandalFlagg]
#7802024 - 12/26/07 08:53 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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RandalFlagg said: The U.S. federal government would never allow this to happen.
Fortunately for the Lakota, our troops seem to be a bit preoccupied with fighting in Iraq.
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Re: An independent country within the US? [Re: Disco Cat]
#7802970 - 12/27/07 05:09 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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What happens to the people who have homes or own land in this territory? While it was the Native American's land originally, it is not the fault of someone who owns the land hundreds of years later.
The land owners should be compensated well for giving it up.
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Re: An independent country within the US? [Re: Redstorm]
#7803019 - 12/27/07 06:20 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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A sensible policy would be enough compensation for me.
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kidaihuan
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Re: An independent country within the US? [Re: Redstorm]
#7803121 - 12/27/07 07:45 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Redstorm said: What happens to the people who have homes or own land in this territory? While it was the Native American's land originally, it is not the fault of someone who owns the land hundreds of years later.
The land owners should be compensated well for giving it up.
Compensated by the US government.
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Re: An independent country within the US? [Re: kidaihuan]
#7803269 - 12/27/07 09:06 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Does anybody actually think that the U.S. federal government will allow this to happen? Fuck no.
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lonestar2004
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Re: An independent country within the US? [Re: RandalFlagg]
#7803286 - 12/27/07 09:16 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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As soon as the welfare checks stop, this will end.
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Re: An independant country within the US? [Re: DieCommie]
#7803312 - 12/27/07 09:29 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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EntheogenicPeace said:the Lakota have been confined to among the poorest land
They are not allowed to move? They should have the right to move to a prosperous city within the US.
They do, and many have. But I don't think the independence movement we are talking about has assimilating into a prosperous city in mind. I think the aim is to restore a way of life that has little to do with Contemporary Economics. The Lakota are after sustainable independence.
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Re: An independent country within the US? [Re: lonestar2004]
#7803315 - 12/27/07 09:31 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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lonestar2004 said: As soon as the welfare checks stop, this will end.
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Re: An independent country within the US? [Re: kidaihuan]
#7803330 - 12/27/07 09:37 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Education is everything. Welfare is nothing.
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Re: An independent country within the US? [Re: lonestar2004]
#7803631 - 12/27/07 11:37 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Re: An independant country within the US? [Re: gluke bastid]
#7803654 - 12/27/07 11:43 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Smells like racism to me. They would do good to think about adopting some multiculturalism and acceptance of living with others who dont look like them.
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Re: An independant country within the US? [Re: DieCommie]
#7803855 - 12/27/07 12:31 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Re: An independant country within the US? [Re: DieCommie]
#7803865 - 12/27/07 12:34 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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DieCommie said: Smells like racism to me. They would do good to think about adopting some multiculturalism and acceptance of living with others who dont look like them.
Can I assume from this statement that you are in favor of opening up our borders?
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