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resptodd
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'shrooms caps vs stems
#7786876 - 12/21/07 07:46 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Any difference in potency, caps vs stems?
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Re: 'shrooms caps vs stems [Re: resptodd]
#7786896 - 12/21/07 07:50 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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OMG SEARCH.
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Re: 'shrooms caps vs stems [Re: resptodd]
#7786898 - 12/21/07 07:50 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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actually, i heard that the spores are most potent, and that consuming caps and stems is worthless, and should be thrown away. so with that, i would just snort the spores and throw away the non-potent caps and stems.
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thats what i do. gets me sooooo tripped out man.
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KrishnaDreamer said: actually, i heard that the spores are most potent, and that consuming caps and stems is worthless, and should be thrown away. so with that, i would just snort the spores and throw away the non-potent caps and stems.
pfft no. what you have to do is instead of birthing the cakes just put them into a blender with some oj. You trip so hard dude and the oj really mellows out the taste.
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Spores contain 0 psilocybin, that's why they are legal.
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Re: 'shrooms caps vs stems [Re: resptodd]
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It was just a curious thing, no big deal, thought someone might have a cool straight up answer.
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Re: 'shrooms caps vs stems [Re: resptodd]
#7786936 - 12/21/07 07:59 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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since you are so knowledgeable, you'd think you would know how to use the search engine 
c'mon dude..
well i'll explain it..
there is no way to check a difference in potency unless you are testing an individual mushy in a lab with expensive ass equipment. i believe that it is a widely accepted notion that caps are more potent than stems, but that is just my understanding of it. each mushy varies in potency so much that it is nearly impossible to tell.
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If you eat the caps AND the stem then it doesn't matter which is stronger. =).
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theres a ton of threads on this and the difference is minimal. why do you care anyway just eat all of it.
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What I've come to believe is the more caps I eat, the more intense the visuals are. I've eaten eighters of only stems and tripped just as hard as if caps were with them, but the caps give that extra touch.
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Re: 'shrooms caps vs stems [Re: MindGorilla]
#7787647 - 12/21/07 11:44 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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gorilla that doesn't mean anything. In order for that to make sense the mushrooms would have all have to have been the exact same potency
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i personally dont care what any one says from experiance ive come to notice that caps give a heavier trip than just stems
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learningtofly said: gorilla that doesn't mean anything. In order for that to make sense the mushrooms would have all have to have been the exact same potency
Now that I think of it, it seems like the most intense trips I've had were with stems and caps. The fact that I had both stems and caps probably tell alot about the potency and quality of the mushroom I received, apposed to the 1/8 of only stems.
I've also heard that area where the caps connect to the stem is the most potent. Probably just malarkey.
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Re: 'shrooms caps vs stems [Re: MindGorilla]
#7787715 - 12/22/07 12:10 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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learningtofly said: gorilla that doesn't mean anything. In order for that to make sense the mushrooms would have all have to have been the exact same potency
Now that I think of it, it seems like the most intense trips I've had were with stems and caps. The fact that I had both stems and caps probably tell alot about the potency and quality of the mushroom I received, apposed to the 1/8 of only stems.
I've also heard that area where the caps connect to the stem is the most potent. Probably just malarkey.
if you are referencing to the veil that encloses the cap then yes you are correct has any one other than me taken a quarter oz of just veils? there is definetly a difference in potency when it come to veils
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I have read a few posts about this, and generaly its considered that caps tend to be more potent than stems. But i suppose it could go both ways, potency can vary from fruit to fruit even fromt eh same flush (unless you have isolated or clones)
I might try out just eating caps , then a try eating just stems to see if there is any difference, i am very fond of having highly visual trips.
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Re: 'shrooms caps vs stems [Re: veda_sticks]
#7788148 - 12/22/07 07:02 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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as stupid as it sounds.. perhpas the spores can have some kind of effect on visuals. Hence the accepted notion of caps > stems..
Just a thought.
Something i'm goin to try though in the future.
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Re: 'shrooms caps vs stems [Re: future]
#7788200 - 12/22/07 07:58 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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i cant believe how many times ive seen this damn thread. you fools really need to do some research. when mushies have been tested in labs as far of diff. of potency between the stems and caps there was such a small pctg. difference that it was completely debunked that any part of the mush is more potent than the other. idk about this veil bs but is sounds pretty ridiculous to me
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Re: 'shrooms caps vs stems [Re: Devin]
#7788214 - 12/22/07 08:09 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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looking for veggies in wa, can you help?
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Re: 'shrooms caps vs stems [Re: EllisDSox]
#7789337 - 12/22/07 02:55 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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yeah i can help, you ever looked in a forest?
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Re: 'shrooms caps vs stems [Re: EllisDSox]
#7789362 - 12/22/07 03:00 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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stems might be slightly less but its not significant enough to justify not eating them, or selectively eating them for a lighter trip

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i dont think anybody here knows the answer, if your that interested, hire somebody to do chemical tests
just grow/pick them and you get the whole shroom anyway
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Re: 'shrooms caps vs stems [Re: ashfiken]
#7789396 - 12/22/07 03:10 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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ashfiken said: idk about this veil BS but is sounds pretty ridiculous to me
have you tried it if i may ask? because i have and personally noticed a dramatic increase in visuals. so if you would, please, not refer to it as BS unless you really have something to say thank you
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cheshirect666 said:
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ashfiken said: idk about this veil BS but is sounds pretty ridiculous to me
have you tried it if i may ask? because i have and personally noticed a dramatic increase in visuals. so if you would, please, not refer to it as BS unless you really have something to say thank you
shroom trips vary drastically. If you were to say do at least 10 trips of the same amount of material but no veil then 10 trips of the same amount of material but just veils and note a difference then it may hold some ground. Even so 25 trips each would be better. Also you throw in the placebo effect into account and it could alter the results. You would need to do this to a group of individuals and not tell them what kind of material they were getting. IMO it's all in your head.
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Re: 'shrooms caps vs stems [Re: THEBats]
#7789628 - 12/22/07 04:08 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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very good point. i will have to run that test one of these days
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cheshirect666 said: very good point. i will have to run that test one of these days
it would be interesting to find out. I just think people would've found out by now.
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Re: 'shrooms caps vs stems [Re: EllisDSox]
#7789657 - 12/22/07 04:16 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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What the hell does it matter? Just eat the whole damn shroom like your supposed too.
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Purple Mushroom said: What the hell does it matter? Just eat the whole damn shroom like your supposed too.
true that
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fuck you.. im the only fuck on this thread to initially give a real TRUE answer to the op so if i havent taken the time to take all veils im guess im missin out cus i never will do this oh so enhancing method of taking mushrooms. so how about you go ahead and blow me and keep takin veils to get more visuals.. which i personally dont give two shits about and dont believe are a very important part of a mush trip
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ashfiken said: idk about this veil BS but is sounds pretty ridiculous to me
have you tried it if i may ask? because i have and personally noticed a dramatic increase in visuals. so if you would, please, not refer to it as BS unless you really have something to say thank you
WOAH WOAH I missed something here! Whats the veil bullshit??? I wanna know what the veil bullshit is
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Re: 'shrooms caps vs stems [Re: future]
#7790029 - 12/22/07 05:52 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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they are saying that if you eat all or more veils you "get more visuals in your trip"
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better yet, send the caps and stems to me.
Edited by sk8cracka (12/22/07 08:06 PM)
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Re: 'shrooms caps vs stems [Re: ashfiken]
#7790478 - 12/22/07 08:48 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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ashfiken said: fuck you.. im the only fuck on this thread to initially give a real TRUE answer to the op so if i havent taken the time to take all veils im guess im missin out cus i never will do this oh so enhancing method of taking mushrooms. so how about you go ahead and blow me and keep takin veils to get more visuals.. which i personally dont give two shits about and dont believe are a very important part of a mush trip
bullshit i awnsered the question with my first post but hey buddy there is no reason to be getting confrontational here. we are here to share the information and knowledge that we have on this subject and thats all i was doing you aint got to be a dick about it
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the caps are 30% more potent by weight than the stems, but it all has the goods.
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Re: 'shrooms caps vs stems [Re: sui]
#7790523 - 12/22/07 09:09 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Do caps or stems contain more psilocybin/psilocin?
This is from the shroomery. Does anyone ever visit the main site or what?
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Edited by sui (12/22/07 09:10 PM)
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Re: 'shrooms caps vs stems [Re: EllisDSox]
#7790809 - 12/22/07 10:48 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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ive noticed that if the shrooms are bomb ass, it dosent matter what part you eat, cause good psilocybin is good psilocybin, the chemical stays the same no matter what part of the fungii its in..
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Re: 'shrooms caps vs stems [Re: sui]
#7790872 - 12/22/07 11:02 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Given the weight of the material they are almost the same.
There is no reason to treat them differently in my opinion.
You can read lagit studies done about this subject, and at the very most they are only slightly different.
Same shit, just as potent as the other for the most part.
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Re: 'shrooms caps vs stems [Re: yageman]
#7790889 - 12/22/07 11:05 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Just look at the "related threads" at the bottom of the page.
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cheshirect666 said: i personally dont care what any one says from experiance ive come to notice that caps give a heavier trip than just stems
you call this first post a real answer to the op? if you truly believe this then you are a dumb fucker. this does not include any real answer and is actually complete untruth. because as i said and yageman said there is such little difference in weight to potency in order to be able to say that one carries a heavier trip than the other. if your gonna share information on this site try not to make it misinformation.
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drkrobotnik said: i believe that it is a widely accepted notion that caps are more potent than stems, but that is just my understanding of it.
widely accepted, but I doubt there is much truth to it. There are plenty of things that are "widely accepted" and still inaccurate.
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Re: 'shrooms caps vs stems [Re: ashfiken]
#7792354 - 12/23/07 12:33 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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if you read it you would notice that i said from experience i never stated it as fact i mean don't get me wrong i take into consideration the experiments that have been on the subject and the results.
again I'm just saying from experience
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Re: 'shrooms caps vs stems [Re: ashfiken]
#7792361 - 12/23/07 12:36 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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cheshirect666 said: i personally dont care what any one says from experiance ive come to notice that caps give a heavier trip than just stems
you call this first post a real answer to the op? if you truly believe this then you are a dumb fucker. this does not include any real answer and is actually complete untruth. because as i said and yageman said there is such little difference in weight to potency in order to be able to say that one carries a heavier trip than the other. if your gonna share information on this site try not to make it misinformation.
30% is a large enough increase that it would be noticablely different say if you ate and eighth of caps than an eighth of stems. You would trip on both doses, but youd trip harder on the caps. there is a difference but it all has the goods
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drkrobotnik said: i believe that it is a widely accepted notion that caps are more potent than stems, but that is just my understanding of it.
widely accepted, but I doubt there is much truth to it. There are plenty of things that are "widely accepted" and still inaccurate.
but in this instance widley accepted is accurate. By a factor of 30% caps are more potent.
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This is from the shroomery. Does anyone ever visit the main site or what?
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