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azuresense
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Holes in Casing Container?
#7786862 - 12/21/07 07:43 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Would it be of any advantage to poke small holes (less than 1/8 inch) in the bottom of the containers holding my casings? Aluminum type, elevated with screen above layer of perlite (wouldn't be directly on it).
My thinking is that it would either A) prevent them from getting waterlogged at bottom and feeding contams, B) the opposite, keep them moisturized from the perlite below, or C) just make way for more possible contamination. Trich has been starting at the bottom for them. Opinions? Thanks.
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Re: Holes in Casing Container? [Re: azuresense]
#7786866 - 12/21/07 07:45 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Light will get to the bottom and you will get bottom pinning.
So, no.
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azuresense
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Re: Holes in Casing Container? [Re: Nibin]
#7786972 - 12/21/07 08:07 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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What if the source of light is only coming from above? Did this happen to you?
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Re: Holes in Casing Container? [Re: azuresense]
#7787069 - 12/21/07 08:30 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Light still gets there even if it isn't shining directly on it.
RR has recommended not to have holes at the bottom more than once.
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Re: Holes in Casing Container? [Re: Nibin]
#7787344 - 12/21/07 09:57 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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The fresh air exchange near the holes will encourage bottom pinning. If you're getting trichoderma prior to first flush, it sounds like your spawn was contaminated. RR
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Re: Holes in Casing Container? [Re: RogerRabbit]
#7788074 - 12/22/07 05:11 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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This was kind of already answered in the thread about myc eating holes in aluminium trays.
Your substrate shouldnt get water logged unless over mist your casing layer or dont drain out excess water after dunking.
If you propery hydrate your substrate and keep the casing layer moist but soaking, then you shouldnt have to worry about it drying out before the flush is finished.
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Re: Holes in Casing Container? [Re: veda_sticks]
#7793959 - 12/23/07 10:00 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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thanks all....
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Your substrate shouldnt get water logged unless over mist your casing layer or dont drain out excess water after dunking.
If you propery hydrate your substrate and keep the casing layer moist but soaking, then you shouldnt have to worry about it drying out before the flush is finished.
Drain excess water after dunking? You mean dabbing it with a paper towel?
Second statement is a little vauge...what is your method for proper hydration?
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Re: Holes in Casing Container? [Re: azuresense]
#7794042 - 12/23/07 10:22 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Maybe try a tyvek liner in the bottom or your trays? Sounds like an experiment.
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Re: Holes in Casing Container? [Re: veda_sticks]
#7794393 - 12/24/07 12:13 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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veda_sticks said: This was kind of already answered in the thread about myc eating holes in aluminium trays.
Your substrate shouldnt get water logged unless over mist your casing layer or dont drain out excess water after dunking.
If you propery hydrate your substrate and keep the casing layer moist but soaking, then you shouldnt have to worry about it drying out before the flush is finished.
no offense man, but didn't i just read a post by you from today that said you had only ever grown cakes? why do i always read posts of you giving advise on casings when you have no experience with them?
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Re: Holes in Casing Container? [Re: Crake]
#7794400 - 12/24/07 12:15 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Crake said: Maybe try a tyvek liner in the bottom or your trays? Sounds like an experiment.
sounds like a formal invitation for contams.
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Quote:
lostinautumn7 said:
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veda_sticks said: This was kind of already answered in the thread about myc eating holes in aluminium trays.
Your substrate shouldnt get water logged unless over mist your casing layer or dont drain out excess water after dunking.
If you propery hydrate your substrate and keep the casing layer moist but NOT soaking, then you shouldnt have to worry about it drying out before the flush is finished.
I read alot of posts
no offense man, but didn't i just read a post by you from today that said you had only ever grown cakes? why do i always read posts of you giving advise on casings when you have no experience with them?
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azuresense
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Re: Holes in Casing Container? [Re: veda_sticks]
#7794901 - 12/24/07 08:06 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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OOOOO-k...anyway....
lostinautumn, why would tyvek be much different than say, lining with foil, if it's sterile and all that jazz? does the water get soaked up in it and stay stagnant or what? i usually line with verm, which has worked up until now, so i guess i'll go with those who say fuck the verm...you're just sayin straight substrate to pan, or do you have another method in mind? it's gettin the trich post- first flush... thanks.
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