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emrandel
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Re: I fucking hate hiphop [Re: ApJunkie]
#7786820 - 12/21/07 07:31 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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I'm sorry that you haven't had the opportunity to listen to hip-hop created by passionate individuals. Not that it's your responsibility or anything. But you really need to stop stereo-typing every artist and every song within a genre by what you hear on some shitty radio station that's trying to make their money.
As for your comparison to classical music. Are you insane? How can you compare classical music to anything created in this century? The creations of that time period are undeniably beautiful and amazing.
But they serve different purposes... hip-hop was not born to be flawlessly beautiful, a pleasure to the ears. It is the expression of the supressed. It is born from anger, frustration and confusion. And it is to be respected in its own way.
You don't say that you hate the piano because your buddies seven year old son creates painfully horrible sounds from it at everyone of his recitals.
It is not the worst, or even the most popular of a genre that defines it, but rather the origin of the passion for the genre and the best that it has created regardless of if it is the most popular. The masses are not the best judges. That's why a democracy doesn't work.
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ApJunkie
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Re: I fucking hate hiphop [Re: emrandel]
#7786954 - 12/21/07 08:03 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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emrandel said: I'm sorry that you haven't had the opportunity to listen to hip-hop created by passionate individuals. Not that it's your responsibility or anything. But you really need to stop stereo-typing every artist and every song within a genre by what you hear on some shitty radio station that's trying to make their money.
You're right, it's not my responsibility, and I'm equally sorry I haven't had an opportunity to appreciate it. However, I've heard some stuff by Blackalicious, Atmosphere (particularly "not coming home") and RJD2 that I can easily say I enjoyed, but as I've said many times, that's is a VERY small minority. you need to stop stereotyping my comments by disregarding important words like "Most."
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emrandel said: As for your comparison to classical music. Are you insane? How can you compare classical music to anything created in this century? The creations of that time period are undeniably beautiful and amazing.
Well, I can do that because I listen to a lot of modern music that is comparable. Simple enough right? Listen to anything by Nadja Salerno-Sonnenberg, Mark O'Conner, Chris Thile, David Grisman, or Dominick Leslie and try to tell me their music is inferior to anything. It doesn't have the reputation of a concerto by Igor Stravinsky, but you'd be hard pressed to convince me it's of a lesser caliber.
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emrandel said: But they serve different purposes... hip-hop was not born to be flawlessly beautiful, a pleasure to the ears. It is the expression of the supressed. It is born from anger, frustration and confusion. And it is to be respected in its own way.
This is a very good point. I can respect where you're coming from here, but it doesn't make hip-hop any more interesting to me. I'm a rich white kid, anger frustration and supression don't come 'round too often, so it's not really a musical subject that interests me.
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emrandel said: You don't say that you hate the piano because your buddies seven year old son creates painfully horrible sounds from it at everyone of his recitals.
Yes, because as I said, the technicality of the piece isn't what fascinates me. If the kid enjoys playing and tries his hardest, then I'll enjoy every single shitty note he plunks out.
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emrandel said: It is not the worst, or even the most popular of a genre that defines it, but rather the origin of the passion for the genre and the best that it has created regardless of if it is the most popular. The masses are not the best judges. That's why a democracy doesn't work.
I'm not necessarily sure I agree with you here. Admittedly the best of a genre generally isn't the most popular, but when I say I dislike Hip-Hop, I mean that I dislike the hip-hop I'm exposed to on a regular basis, and in this case, that means the stupid shit they play on the radio.
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Ferris
PsychedelicJourneyman



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Re: I fucking hate hiphop [Re: Gumby]
#7786967 - 12/21/07 08:05 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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I can fuck to polka
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Gumby
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Re: I fucking hate hiphop [Re: ApJunkie]
#7787936 - 12/22/07 02:36 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Dude this conversation got way too deep for the content of my original post.
Moral of the story: mainstream hiphop/rap/radio garbage makes my dick go limp if I'm trying to get my groove on.
End of story. Don't analyze it. It is what it is. It sucks.
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alphabeatu
Sire

Registered: 11/07/07
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Re: I fucking hate hiphop [Re: Gumby]
#7787989 - 12/22/07 03:16 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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@ how much you hate it
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Konyap


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Re: I fucking hate hiphop [Re: sui]
#7787999 - 12/22/07 03:26 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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if you hate hip hop make ur own hip hop and see how crack it is
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MeatyVitamin
The Majority



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Re: I fucking hate hiphop [Re: ApJunkie]
#7788070 - 12/22/07 05:05 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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If you want music to have sex to, try listening to some Dave Matthews. It puts ladies right in the mood i find.
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sam420
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Re: I fucking hate hiphop [Re: Gumby]
#7788208 - 12/22/07 08:07 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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guns, bitches and bling were never part of the 4 elements
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BrAiN
Art Fag


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MeatyVitamin said: If you want music to have sex to, try listening to some Dave Matthews. It puts ladies right in the mood i find.
DM? Barf!
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ashfiken
TotalCrazyasshole

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Re: I fucking hate hiphop [Re: BrAiN]
#7788234 - 12/22/07 08:25 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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^ agreed blehh
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BrAiN
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Re: I fucking hate hiphop [Re: ashfiken]
#7788240 - 12/22/07 08:28 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Satellite has to be the worst song ever created.. next to "Too Much"
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bradmassive
KingOfTheHill

Registered: 11/03/07
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Re: I fucking hate hiphop [Re: Gumby]
#7788245 - 12/22/07 08:31 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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hiphop rulez
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Iron_Hymen
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Re: I fucking hate hiphop [Re: bradmassive]
#7788349 - 12/22/07 09:32 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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you guys should bang to Raffi if not MSI/ AC-DC/ or White Zombie
'nuff said!'
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Re: I fucking hate hiphop [Re: ApJunkie]
#7788380 - 12/22/07 09:48 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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I have noticed a lack of any real meaningful "music" coming from most rap, it is all about getting hella rich, besides that fact, I cannot really relate to certain forms of the music either because I am not black, and don't really understand how other people who aren't either can really relate, perhaps its just what sounds good to the ear, I don't relate to Gwen Stefani either, her music is just stupid
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BlazinBongs
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Re: I fucking hate hiphop [Re: sui]
#7788429 - 12/22/07 10:08 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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jewunit
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Re: I fucking hate hiphop [Re: BlazinBongs]
#7788622 - 12/22/07 11:21 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Because Nonphixion sucks
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Iron_Hymen
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Re: I fucking hate hiphop [Re: jewunit]
#7789204 - 12/22/07 02:14 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Tribe Called Quest, old skool snoop dog, dr dre, and afro man is better than shitty hiphop
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Re: I fucking hate hiphop [Re: Gumby]
#7789210 - 12/22/07 02:18 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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i dont care!
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Silversoul
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Re: I fucking hate hiphop [Re: Gumby]
#7789228 - 12/22/07 02:23 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Legoulash
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Re: I fucking hate hiphop [Re: Silversoul]
#7789261 - 12/22/07 02:34 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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but Necros hip hop..
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