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MushroomTrip
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Re: Mental illness? Go get medicated! [Re: niteowl]
#7817299 - 12/31/07 02:28 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Of course, they have to be just like everybody else in order to be considered healthy. 
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No amount of meditation will ever replace the medication these people need.
Yeah sure, why choose self education when you have a miracle pill? Why choose truth when you have religion? Why actually solve something in your life when you can always lie to yourself?
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niteowl
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Re: Mental illness? Go get medicated! [Re: MushroomTrip]
#7817344 - 12/31/07 02:41 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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MushroomTrip said: Of course, they have to be just like everybody else in order to be considered healthy. 
Yeah sure, why choose self education when you have a miracle pill? Why choose truth when you have religion? Why actually solve something in your life when you can always lie to yourself?
You obviously don't know what the F you are talking about.
Do you know anyone with ADD or AD/HD?
Have you ever seen them try to function without their meds?
I have. My wife suffered for 40 years before she got help for her condition....now her life is better than ever.
Could she function normally before the meds........sort of. Now that she is taking Vyvanse her ability to function normally is GREATLY improved.
Some meds are needed for a normal existance...........period.
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SneezingPenis
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Re: Mental illness? Go get medicated! [Re: niteowl]
#7819177 - 01/01/08 07:31 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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"A gramme is better than a damn." - Aldous Huxley, Brave New World, Ch. 6

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". . . yet almost everyone attributes human behavior to intentions, purposes, aims and goals. . . . as if they had wills, impulses, feelings, purposes, and other fragmentary attributes of an indwelling agent. We shall not solve the problems of alcoholism and juvenile delinquency by increasing a sense of responsibility. It is the environment which is 'responsible' for the objectionable behavior, and it is the environment, not some attribute of the individual, which must be changed. "If all else fails, punishable behavior may be made less likely by changing physiological conditions. Hormones may be used to change sexual behavior, surgery (as in lobotomy) to control violence, tranquilizers to control aggression, and appetite depressants to control overeating." Harvard psychologist B.F. Skinner in "Beyond Freedom and Dignity"
Those two were a response to you.... the rest are just for fun.... throwing them out there in a general sense.
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Every child in America entering school at the age of five is insane because he comes to school with certain allegiances to our founding fathers, toward our elected officials, toward his parents, toward a belief in a supernatural being, and toward the sovereignty of this nation as a separate entity. It’s up to you as teachers to make all these sick children well – by creating the international child of the future" Dr. Chester M. Pierce, Psychiatrist, address to the Childhood International Education Seminar, 1973
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We have swallowed all manner of poisonous certainties fed us by our parents, our Sunday and day school teachers, our politicians, our priests, our newspapers, and others with a vested interest in controlling us. ‘Thou shalt become as gods, knowing good and evil,’ good and evil with which to keep children under control, with which to impose local and familial and national loyalties and with which to blind children to their glorious intellectual heritage… The results, the inevitable results, are frustration, inferiority, neurosis and inability to enjoy living, to reason clearly or to make a world fit to live in." Dr. G. Brock Chisholm, President, World Federation of Mental Health
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The school curriculum should "…be designed to bend the student to the realities of society, especially by way of vocational education… the curriculum should be designed to promote mental health as an instrument for social progress and a means of altering culture…" Report: Action for Mental Health, 1961
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"Education does not mean teaching people to know what they do not know – it means teaching them to behave as they do not behave." National Institute of Mental Health (NIMH) sponsored report: The Role of Schools in Mental Health
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"We can choose to use our growing knowledge to enslave people in ways never dreamed of before, depersonalizing them, controlling them by means so carefully selected that they will perhaps never be aware of their loss of personhood." Carl R. Rodgers, Former President of the American Psychological Association (APA)
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It will of course, be understood that directly or indirectly, soon or late, every advance in the sciences of human nature will contribute to our success in controlling human nature and changing it to the advantage of the common wheel." Edward Thorndike, Key Psychology Theorist, member of the "Eugenics Committee of the USA"
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We need a program of psychosurgery for political control of our society. The purpose is physical control of the mind. Everyone who deviates from the given norm can be surgically mutilated. The individual may think that the most important reality is his own existence, but this is only his personal point of view. . . Man does not have the right to develop his own mind. . . . We must electronically control the brain. Someday armies and generals will be controlled by electronic stimulation of the brain." Dr. Jose M.R. Delgado, Director of Neuropsychiatry at Yale University Medical School, Congressional Record, No. 26, Vol. 118, Feb. 24, 1974. Delgado was reported as part of the "MK-Ultra" CIA mind-control program.
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"To achieve world government, it is necessary to remove from the minds of men their individualism, loyalty to family traditions, national patriotism and religious dogmas... Dr. G. Brock Chisholm, psychiatrist and co-founder of the World Federation of Mental Healt
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The similarities between street drug abuse and psychotropic prescription drug use are disturbing. Both types are toxic. Both can cause psychosis, damage the brain and other organs, and even cause death. And neither type of mind-altering drugs, legal or illegal, treats disease. It's important to recognize that the only significant difference between many prescription psychotropic drugs and street drugs such as "speed" and "downers" is that prescription drugs are legal." Neuropsychiatrist Sydney Walker in "Dose of Sanity"
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Re: Mental illness? Go get medicated! [Re: SneezingPenis]
#7820767 - 01/01/08 05:03 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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 Six major perspectives of psychology
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medsaregood
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Re: Mental illness? Go get medicated! [Re: SneezingPenis]
#14860490 - 08/02/11 08:07 AM (12 years, 5 months ago) |
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I know this thread is old as hell, but i stumbled across this thread and your rants really pissed me off
Do you believe that someone (born with all their senses) can be genetically predisposed to enjoying life less than me?
The answer is yes
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/04/magazine/04anxiety-t.html?pagewanted=1&_r=1
As someone who has suffered from anxiety and depression, i'm not upset about my life, shit happens and you move on, whats fucks me off is the physical manifestations, feeling depersonalized, constant light headedness and a numbing, not being able to enjoy things i once enjoyed for fuck knows whatever reason. Sometimes long after a stressor has been dealt with, the stress system is still out of whack, which has been proven that the HPA axis is out of whack in people in depression, anxiety, ptsd etc
You can argue whether or not the imbalance is bought about by a stressor or if the imbalance is a genetic abnormality but it's moot, sometimes to fix the problems and get on in your life you need medication to correct that imbalance.
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Re: Mental illness? Go get medicated! [Re: SneezingPenis]
#14861416 - 08/02/11 12:23 PM (12 years, 5 months ago) |
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SneezingPenis said: I think it is funny that through your entire post you refer to mental disorders as if they are a biologically caused malady.
Hey, n00bie, you are aware that inherent chemical imbalances exist, right? And that the result is mental disorders? You are aware of this?
Now, don't MISREAD what I said. Not all mental disorders are chemical imbalances. But inherent chemical imbalances do exist, and they often result in mental disorders or in symptoms that lead doctors to beleive mental disorders may be present.
So please don't criticise his blanket statement, and then make an equally ignorant blanket statement of your own. It makes you look silly.
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Re: Mental illness? Go get medicated! [Re: memes]
#14861418 - 08/02/11 12:23 PM (12 years, 5 months ago) |
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GODDAMNIT. I didnt relaize this thread was so old.
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Re: Mental illness? Go get medicated! [Re: niteowl]
#14861432 - 08/02/11 12:26 PM (12 years, 5 months ago) |
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niteowl said:
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MushroomTrip said: Of course, they have to be just like everybody else in order to be considered healthy. 
Yeah sure, why choose self education when you have a miracle pill? Why choose truth when you have religion? Why actually solve something in your life when you can always lie to yourself?
You obviously don't know what the F you are talking about.
Do you know anyone with ADD or AD/HD?
Have you ever seen them try to function without their meds?
I have. My wife suffered for 40 years before she got help for her condition....now her life is better than ever.
Could she function normally before the meds........sort of. Now that she is taking Vyvanse her ability to function normally is GREATLY improved.
Some meds are needed for a normal existance...........period.

And since i'm rambling in this thread - i'll go ahead and back up the long-lost Niteowl in saying that I -- like his wife -- have a complete fucking inability to sit the fuck still. I move all the goddamn time. FOr the past 8 yeras i've been smoking all day/every day in order to self-medicate this. Now ive stoppedsmoking and re-acknowledged the extent of my problem.
I'll be seeing a counselor ---> psychiatrist shortly, once i get my insurance back.
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