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OfflineBuzzwell420
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Ron paul-primary
    #7784369 - 12/21/07 02:44 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

So you cats gotta get registered as republicans

and vote in the primarys.


umm but wait when are they?


but i mean I mean if hes a republican then they can at least rig it right? FUck yeah


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Re: Ron paul-primary [Re: Buzzwell420]
    #7784392 - 12/21/07 02:58 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

um ... first of all there are two types of nominating elections primaries and Caucasus. Some are open to everyone and some only to members of a party ( or sometimes just people who say there a party to a party. ) Caucuses can be confusing as they often don't count the votes directly. They are more fun because sometimes people just meet up in this school gym, divide by candidate and fight for the people that walk in to stand with them. Bad news tho, ron paul will not win either in any state.


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Re: Ron paul-primary [Re: rodfarva]
    #7784422 - 12/21/07 03:14 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

> umm but wait when are they?

http://www.ronpaul2008.com/states/


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Re: Ron paul-primary [Re: Seuss]
    #7784441 - 12/21/07 03:21 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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> umm but wait when are they?

http://www.ronpaul2008.com/states/





Sweet thanks man.

and on another note, with that attitude yeah he wont win.


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Re: Ron paul-primary [Re: Buzzwell420]
    #7784447 - 12/21/07 03:28 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

here we go, Ill update As I make the list. We actually have some time to work with and get a movement going.

Activism is.


California- jan 22 registration date. and primary is February 5 2005.
Oregon-registration date april 29th primary date may 20th
washington- reg- jan 10th, primary and Caucasus feb 19


edit maybe ur right, i just got bake and forgot i was making this.


we re doomed


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Re: Ron paul-primary [Re: Buzzwell420]
    #7784476 - 12/21/07 03:54 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

> edit maybe ur right, i just got bake and forgot i was making this.

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Re: Ron paul-primary [Re: Seuss]
    #7784495 - 12/21/07 04:04 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Does he really not stand a chance?....what about in a few years?

It really makes me wonder. With the internet how it is....we could potentially make a difference. I mean this site is big, the owners have some power at there hands!
maybe I'm high, but there are many related forums that could work together,shit you tube face book....Idk much about this shit because Im new to my own computer!

well tell me what you think>should i lay off the reefer


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Re: Ron paul-primary [Re: Seuss]
    #7784498 - 12/21/07 04:12 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: Ron paul-primary [Re: Buzzwell420]
    #7784513 - 12/21/07 04:28 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

> Does he really not stand a chance?

Of course. Anybody running stands a chance. Look how Ronald Reagan was polling at this time back in 1979 and where he ended up.

What kind of chance does he have? That, I don't know. I don't see the future. However, I have spent a lot of time running numbers and watching current events unfold. I suspect that Ron Paul is going to surprise a lot of people and do much better than the traditional polls would suggest (by 6%, minimum, with good confidence). At the same time, I don't think he is going to do as well as the online polls would suggest. With Huckabee spoiling the "front runners", Paul has a decent chance to pick up delegates in the early primary states.

An interesting turn of events... the rumor mill is claiming that the libertarian party will not nominate a candidate if Paul wins the republican primary and will instead endorse Paul.

Edit: When I say "by 6% minimum", I mean that if he is polling at 8% in a traditional poll, then I expect him to bring in at least 14% of the votes.


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Re: Ron paul-primary [Re: Buzzwell420]
    #7784616 - 12/21/07 06:08 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Hey dude, thanks for swinging by and being interested in helping the man out! :thumbup:

Check out www.ronpaulforums.com. The organization you're seeking is right there. :smile:


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Re: Ron paul-primary [Re: Seuss]
    #7784622 - 12/21/07 06:12 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Hadn't heard that yet, but I just got home and haven't checked the forum out. :wink:

He's tied for third in Iowa, according to the traditional polls, and the two candidates he's tied with, Giuliani and McCain, have pretty much skipped over Iowa. I'm going to go out on a limb here and assert that Ron Paul will finish second in Iowa.

I'm not sure what is happening in New Hampshire. In the traditional polls, he built up to 8% before dropping back down to 5%. New Hampshire seems to be the most favorable state for Ron Paul.... I'm not going to make a prediction yet, but at first I was saying first, now I'm leaning towards second.... :strokebeard:

I've already bagged one Iowan vote for him, my mom has never registered to vote before :lol:, and I'm going to work towards getting my grandpa on board when he comes up for Christmas in a few days. :smirk:


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Re: Ron paul-primary [Re: fireworks_god]
    #7784632 - 12/21/07 06:28 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

> and I'm going to work towards getting my grandpa on board when he comes up for Christmas in a few days. :smirk:

I have a feeling there are going to be a lot of "young folks" home for the holiday season that are going to be doing the same thing with their families.


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Re: Ron paul-primary [Re: Seuss]
    #7784648 - 12/21/07 06:43 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

The most short-sighted thing regarding Ron Paul by the media is how readily they contain him as an "Internet phenomenon". They seem to forget that all of these people work and actually exist in real life (at least to some degree :smirk:), and are all very active in real life....


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SO every one [Re: fireworks_god]
    #7785346 - 12/21/07 11:54 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

So....is there a possibility I mean....am i just stoned and hopeful, I mean once I realized he was republican, that increases the chances of him being able to win, if hes the candidate, they can at least attempt to add some votes to those machines, aint that hard.


well am i smoking too much or what?


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Re: SO every one [Re: Buzzwell420]
    #7785445 - 12/21/07 12:27 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

The moment I looked at that picture my brain falsely detected a strong scent of superb grass via my nostrils.

edit: why did you remove the picture?
:crankey:


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Re: SO every one [Re: elbisivni]
    #7785451 - 12/21/07 12:30 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

I did... post a damn thumbnail if you want to put up a picture that has nothing to do with the forum...


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Re: SO every one [Re: Seuss]
    #7785465 - 12/21/07 12:35 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

sorry bro....


new camera and buds:) a bit trigger happy



and i have no idea how to do a thumbnail....:rocket:


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Re: SO every one [Re: Buzzwell420]
    #7785479 - 12/21/07 12:38 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

come on


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Re: SO every one [Re: Buzzwell420]
    #7785701 - 12/21/07 01:55 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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come on




I don't think he's got the presidential 'look'.

Maybe a Prime Minister of Canada look, but meh.

He would have my vote, but I'm not American. Even though I disagree with a lot of his policies, he's still cool.


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Re: SO every one [Re: kidaihuan]
    #7785728 - 12/21/07 02:08 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

its more peaceful in Canada eh?


any ways, if you promote freedom, you should be the president of the United states of America.


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Re: SO every one [Re: kidaihuan]
    #7785946 - 12/21/07 03:13 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

What exactly does a president look like?


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Re: SO every one [Re: elbisivni]
    #7786453 - 12/21/07 05:40 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

oh, you know...


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Re: SO every one [Re: afoaf]
    #7787553 - 12/21/07 11:14 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: SO every one [Re: Buzzwell420]
    #7788134 - 12/22/07 06:47 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

> new camera and buds:) a bit trigger happy

I liked the picture of the buds better... :wink:

If you upload the pictures to the site, rather than hot linking, it will be much better for all of us.


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Re: Ron paul-primary [Re: Buzzwell420]
    #7788635 - 12/22/07 11:26 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)



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Re: Ron paul-primary [Re: Luddite]
    #7789283 - 12/22/07 02:41 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

I sure hope he wins. I am not american, but as a Canadian, your country really affects how mine is run. I don't like his policy on guns ( i think he is against registration?), I suppose this is a freedom thing, but come on, guns are fucking dangerous!
Regardless of that, he seems like a good man. All of you americans around here should support him, and spread the word to friends and family, like that poster above good job man! Word of mouth to people you know is a great way to help out a politician that you support. Next Canadian election I for one am going to try my best to undermind Stephen Harper...what power does one person have you ask? None really, but I assume there are a lot of other young people like me around who see how fucked up politics is, and if everyone trys to help, we may be closer to utopia!
even though utopia is probably not possible....wow that wen't on a tangent.
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Re: Ron paul-primary [Re: fantastical]
    #7789894 - 12/22/07 05:24 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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guns are fucking dangerous!




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Re: Ron paul-primary [Re: fantastical]
    #7794475 - 12/24/07 12:44 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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I don't like his policy on guns ( i think he is against registration?), I suppose this is a freedom thing, but come on, guns are fucking dangerous!




This isn't the thread to really focus on this, but, just so you know, cars are dangerous too. Its time to get over this idea that an inanimate object is inherently "fucking dangerous". Guns don't kill people, people do. There's more than one way to kill a person.


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Re: Ron paul-primary [Re: fireworks_god]
    #7795079 - 12/24/07 09:42 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Ok that was a little dramatic, but you do not see guns being used for transportation. A car can be used for transport, storage, show, enjoyment, a place to bang, a hotbox area...many things. I see a gun as an innaminate object that really has one main purpose, to shoot. It's primary function is as a weapon. They can look cool on display, but thats not the point of them.
A sharpened pencil can kill as well, so can a machetie, but thats what a machetie does, it is supposed to slice and cut, not to write on paper, that is why they are diffetent. Drugs are dangerous, but you put them into your own body, people dont go around shooting up other peoples veins, but bullets people shoot into other people not themselves. Obviously there are isolate cases and exceptions. I think that when you allow your citizens to carry firearms you give them a chance to kill somone very easily if they get in a bad situation and don't think their actions through. I only brought it up because it is part of his policy that I disagree with...but this is about polling, so i apoligize for that tangent.
And I still want him to win.


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Re: Ron paul-primary [Re: fantastical]
    #7795200 - 12/24/07 10:35 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

> I see a gun as an innaminate object that really has one main purpose, to shoot.

... thus, you being the moral judge of all mankind, should get to dictate what you see guns as upon the rest of us?

When I lived in the US, I was about a mile away from a shooting range. I used to go shooting, at the range, once to twice a week. For me, it was very Zen; a great stress reliever. Focusing on my breathing, on my body, on the wind, and losing everything else, I might only fire one shot every 15 minutes or so. After a few hours, I would have fired ten rounds and have a single hole in the paper that all ten bullets went through (from 100 meters, bench rest). So yes, a gun is inanimate, just as a car is inanimate... and yes, a gun can kill, just as a car can kill... just because you do not see a place for guns does not mean that I don't.

> I think that when you allow your citizens to carry firearms you give them a chance to kill somone very easily if they get in a bad situation

I think that when you allow your citizens to carry a cell phone you give them a chance to kill someone while driving very easily if they are talking on the phone. Thus, we should outlaw cell phones, yes?

Why not prosecute the tiny minority of people that actually break the law rather than punishing everybody because they might break the law?


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Re: Ron paul-primary [Re: Seuss]
    #7795857 - 12/24/07 02:44 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

well we might lose those guns if we dont elect ron paul


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Re: Ron paul-primary [Re: Buzzwell420]
    #7796116 - 12/24/07 04:29 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

haha I dunno, I suppose it is your right. But still in a drunken bar fight, a dangerous situation, pulling a knife or gun and using it is different than trying to crack open a mans skull with the plastic on your cell phone. But yeah... It still is likely only going to be a problem with an idiot anyways who would cause such a problem one way or another(like maybe a beer bottle). What do you people think the primary purpose of guns are, other than to shoot? U know, at leasy you drink the beer before you smash it over your "enemy's head.
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Re: Ron paul-primary [Re: fantastical]
    #7796892 - 12/24/07 10:40 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

hell yeah a guns point is to shoot.

shoot and intruder or an animal, at bars in the old west u had to check the guns at the door.



fuck and if any thing ever happens and us as a people need to have guns, then i wanna have a fucking gun.
criminals will get guns either way, and not every fucking gun owner is gonna shoot you.


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Re: Ron paul-primary [Re: fantastical]
    #7797335 - 12/25/07 02:30 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

> Whatever though not my country, not my problem.

Unfortunately, until the US decides to stop policing the world, it is your problem. :frown:

> What do you people think the primary purpose of guns are, other than to shoot?

Kind of like nuclear weapons... to give others pause that would otherwise harm you.  I've seen the list of countries that have lost their right to bear arms immediately leading into fascism.  The list is pretty long.  On the other hand, the list of fascist counties that don't have right right to bear arms returning to a republic/democracy is pretty slim.


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