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Grinding brown rice without an eletric grinder?
    #7781857 - 12/20/07 04:24 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

any ideas?

Mine was recently not there.


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Re: Grinding brown rice without an eletric grinder? [Re: jape]
    #7781870 - 12/20/07 04:27 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

Its really hard.. But I would say just go to king soopers or safeway and use their coffee grinder..


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Re: Grinding brown rice without an eletric grinder? [Re: Dephect]
    #7782008 - 12/20/07 05:05 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

pepper mill. i used one for awhile. pain in the ass, but gets the job done.


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Re: Grinding brown rice without an eletric grinder? [Re: lostinautumn7]
    #7782018 - 12/20/07 05:12 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

cook the rice and mix it in whole... works very well.


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Re: Grinding brown rice without an eletric grinder? [Re: bryanbzl]
    #7782023 - 12/20/07 05:15 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

Really rice whole? Would there be any pro's cons to that? would I still have you use vermiculite? how much rice per verm and water?


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Re: Grinding brown rice without an eletric grinder? [Re: jape]
    #7782044 - 12/20/07 05:23 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

why dont you just buy brown rice flour ? if not how about rye flour ?
no way would i go through trying to grind rice id rather use wbs !


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Re: Grinding brown rice without an eletric grinder? [Re: jape]
    #7782048 - 12/20/07 05:25 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

same ratios...once it is cooked it will be soft and allot easier to mix in to your verm especially if you over boil it in lots of water then it will be real mushy. although i have never heard of this before (not saying it doesnt work). lemme know how it works out for you if you do it.

actually since the rice has water in it after being cooked i would use less water. refer to any thread where agar (or anyone for that matter) talks about "field capacity" that is what you want to achieve. it is usually a term used in reference to poo or compost but applies to other substrates too. even PF.


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Re: Grinding brown rice without an eletric grinder? [Re: lostinautumn7]
    #7782059 - 12/20/07 05:27 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

Just use the coffee grinder at the store that is used for grinding fresh beans. Get you a bag of brown rice, and dump it in, and then check out.


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Re: Grinding brown rice without an eletric grinder? [Re: Fraggin]
    #7782082 - 12/20/07 05:38 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

yeah, i'm with fraggin.
i would definitely find a way to grind it


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Re: Grinding brown rice without an eletric grinder? [Re: lostinautumn7]
    #7782291 - 12/20/07 06:39 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

lostinautumn7 said:
same ratios...once it is cooked it will be soft and allot easier to mix in to your verm especially if you over boil it in lots of water then it will be real mushy. although i have never heard of this before (not saying it doesnt work). lemme know how it works out for you if you do it.

actually since the rice has water in it after being cooked i would use less water. refer to any thread where agar (or anyone for that matter) talks about "field capacity" that is what you want to achieve. it is usually a term used in reference to poo or compost but applies to other substrates too. even PF.




take this from someone that has done it with great results.

If you are using cakes, add the vermiculite. Same ratio, don't get the vermiculite very wet since what is being colonized is brown rice only and when cooked will contain more than enough water within to completely colonize in jars.
(vermiculite is only used in cakes because it is a good solution to storing water from dunks or misting in order to hydrate the cakes.)

If you are spawning to a bulk use only cooked brown rice in the jars.
regardless of weather you are going to use vermiculite or not, don't cook the rice until it is extremely soggy. every once in a while take a piece of rice out and if you can bite through it with your teeth it is ready. then strain it under cold tap water to remove all of the starchiness (what makes it sticky) and then let it drain for an our or so and add it to the jars.


Pros would be that the jars with only full brown rice will contain 3 times more nutrients thus almost 3 times the amount that your jars will yield. A con would be that it only works to bulk since brown rice alone won't hold a lot of moisture unless you use a top vermiculite reservoir which i can't tell you works that well since i haven't tried it.

what i do know is that it only took 7 days to fully colonize my full (cooked) brown rice jars that i inoculated with Brazilian LC. I would recommend spawning it to bulk instead of using it in cakes (which if you used with vermiculite would work the same as brown rice flour).


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"From 1898 through to 1910 heroin was marketed as a non-addictive morphine substitute and cough medicine for children."

conclusion:
poor fucking children of the early 1900's.


Edited by bryanbzl (12/20/07 06:41 PM)


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Re: Grinding brown rice without an eletric grinder? [Re: bryanbzl]
    #7782309 - 12/20/07 06:44 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

going to a supermarket and using a coffee grinder to grind brown rice in the middle of a big supermarket seems kind of shady to me. some people are willing to do that but it's not really my style (but i have a coffee grinder anyways).

all of what i said can be found in the 9er tek btw. which i believe is really underrated. Also if you find the 9er tek difficult to follow, you can always go buy a coffee grinder which is like 10 bucks anyways.


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Re: Grinding brown rice without an eletric grinder? [Re: bryanbzl]
    #7782528 - 12/20/07 07:35 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

well right on then. like i said, i wasn't saying it didn't work, i had just never heard of it before and i like to get second opinions. i will definitely be giving this a shot in the next couple days to see for myself. thanks for the new method. :thumbup:


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Re: Grinding brown rice without an eletric grinder? [Re: lostinautumn7]
    #7782985 - 12/20/07 09:27 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

yea man i've got some pics in my gallery of the colonized jars, there soo ropey! thats what makes me preach about its abilities to properly colonize as apposed to BRF cakes that get soggy a lot of the time and don't fully colonize (more of a case with pint jars).


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Re: Grinding brown rice without an eletric grinder? [Re: bryanbzl]
    #7783602 - 12/20/07 11:44 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

If you cook the BR and put it in whole do you have to use a presuure cooker or can you still sterilize with just a pot and a lid?


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Re: Grinding brown rice without an eletric grinder? [Re: Dephect]
    #7783972 - 12/21/07 01:21 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

i think you should always use a pressure cooker. you can get a small rocker style cooker for like $25 at any local superstore. the other method is crap. but yeah...you probably could if it really gets you off....:thumbdown:


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Re: Grinding brown rice without an eletric grinder? [Re: Dephect]
    #7783978 - 12/21/07 01:22 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

I bet you could case the colonized brown rice jar using vermiculite with pretty good results... more nutrients


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Re: Grinding brown rice without an eletric grinder? [Re: Mush 4 Brains]
    #7784222 - 12/21/07 03:14 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

Blender works.

Blender works especially well if you strain the output and regrind the coarse stuff.


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Re: Grinding brown rice without an eletric grinder? [Re: SuperPuma]
    #7784395 - 12/21/07 05:00 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

As far as i was aware, just straight brown rice, boiled and used as a substrate took forever to colinise.

Ill need to give it a go, as i have some brown rice i bought when i first started then found brf.

I have a few LC's to test and would rather not waste brf.


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Re: Grinding brown rice without an eletric grinder? [Re: lostinautumn7]
    #7785318 - 12/21/07 01:46 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

I have one somewhere in storage but ugh.. that place is a mess.


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