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Offlinekjb1891
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I Need Some F*ckin' Help!
    #7781766 - 12/20/07 01:49 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Hey guys. I need some help. I've been growing off and on for years now. So, I have a fair amount of experience.

I just recently started a new batch. I bought a LC jar and some grain jars from Mycopath. The LC jar came out great and looked like the best one I've ever had. I ran into problems with the grain jars though.

I shot up a few jars up to make sure everything was a go, but nothing has started growing at all. It's been a couple weeks now and there are absolutely no signs of mycelium.

I have the jars at the optimal temperature in an aquariuam heated tub-in-tub set up. I also varied the amount of LC I used for each jar with anywhere from 2cc to 5cc.

The good news is that there is no contamination at all. Just no mycelium either. I'm dumbfounded by the results so far. I thought that maybe the jars weren't getting enough air through the tyvek somehow, but I doubt that's the problem.

Anyone got any ideas or opinions? I'm completely stuck.

Thanks any help.


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Re: I Need Some F*ckin' Help! [Re: kjb1891]
    #7781800 - 12/20/07 02:03 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

My thoughts are:

I believe its either your syringe had inactive / a lack of spores, or... the water contentin the jars you purchased wasn't optimal for germination.

You should make grain jars and LC's yourself.


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Re: I Need Some F*ckin' Help! [Re: LateForTheFuture]
    #7781842 - 12/20/07 02:18 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

If the spores weren't good then the LC probably wouldn't have worked. I got the spores from the Lil Shop Of Spores. So, they should be viable.

I doubt it's the water level either. I've made my own jars in the past and these look fine.

I used to do all my own stuff, but since I don't grow nearly as often as I used to I usually buy everything pre-made.


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Re: I Need Some F*ckin' Help! [Re: kjb1891]
    #7781900 - 12/20/07 02:35 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

These jars have some sort of gas exchange, right?


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Re: I Need Some F*ckin' Help! [Re: Sillicybin]
    #7781912 - 12/20/07 02:37 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

could be no FAE because that could make it stall...what are the temps?


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Re: I Need Some F*ckin' Help! [Re: dumbfounded1600]
    #7781973 - 12/20/07 02:52 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

dumbfounded1600: FAE isn’t for this stage of growth. You’re thinking of the fruiting stage. The temps are at 80F.

Sillicybin: The jars do have tyvek to allow for gas exchange, but I did notice that the lids are on extremely tight.


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Re: I Need Some F*ckin' Help! [Re: kjb1891]
    #7781995 - 12/20/07 03:01 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

If you smell the jars through the tyvek, do they smell sour or anything like that?

Tyvek is plenty sufficient for gas exchange.

Possibilities:
- Contamination causing alcohol buildup on the grains
- Spore solution too dilute for the mycelia to mate (try more solution?)
- Water content of grains off

I did look at their website, and it looks like their entire lid is made of Tyvek. Have the grains dried out?


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Re: I Need Some F*ckin' Help! [Re: Sillicybin]
    #7782334 - 12/20/07 04:50 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Well, I went and took a whiff of all of them, and one of them definately smells kinda musky/rotten, but it looks fine. You think that could be the alcohol buildup? What kind of contamination would cause alcohol buildup, but no visual cues at all?

The other two just have that grainy/earthy/WBS smell.

I used LC and not spores, and there was definately enough concentration of the LC in the syringes. I also used separate syringes for each jar.


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Re: I Need Some F*ckin' Help! [Re: kjb1891]
    #7784254 - 12/21/07 01:35 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Earthy is great, musky is questionable, rotten is bad.

Sweet is the worst.


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