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ny2casports89
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Searching for "it" on acid....
#7781266 - 12/20/07 11:37 AM (16 years, 6 months ago) |
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Ok i'm going to start off this post with a disclaimer, if you don't understand what I'm saying, I am fully aware that it will sound completley insane so if thats the case please keep your comments to yourself.
So theres this idea that I am always drawn to while on acid. I call it an idea because there are no words that can describe it. And if there are no words that can describe what it is, then how does my brain understand it? The idea had to of gotten there some how, and it certianly wasn't explained to me since it cannot be explained.
I've met several other people who have discovered this and have had conversations about it that probably made no sense at all, but since we both are aware of the idea that's being discussed, we are able to make some sense of our impossible attempts to explain the unexplainable.
There are more in depth things about this I would like to discuss with people however I feel like this is enough information to reach the kind of people i'm looking to reach...
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Re: Searching for "it" on acid.... [Re: ny2casports89]
#7781296 - 12/20/07 11:49 AM (16 years, 6 months ago) |
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Well. Well. Well, you can never tell.
What to say? Can we say anything, or would a knowing nod suit you better? How to express the inexpressible?
I think, perhaps, the "it" you are talking about is life. "It" can not be summed up. However, know you are part of something very special, and that this is your ride (trip) through eternity. It will be beautiful, and terrible, sometimes both at once. Sometimes you will have that connection where you "got it" and sometimes you won't.
Know that "it" is like holding sand - the tighter you hold, the more you lose. So, hold on loosely, and don't look back.
And you who seek to know Me, know that the seeking and yearning will avail you not, unless you know the Mystery: for if that which you seek, you find not within yourself, you will never find it without.
For behold, I have been with you from the beginning, and I am That which is attained at the end of desire.

Share your herb.
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Re: Searching for "it" on acid.... [Re: AroundtheSon]
#7781317 - 12/20/07 11:53 AM (16 years, 6 months ago) |
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Sure don't know what I'm going for, but I'm going to go for it for sure.
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ny2casports89
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Re: Searching for "it" on acid.... [Re: AroundtheSon]
#7781365 - 12/20/07 12:12 PM (16 years, 6 months ago) |
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I definitly feel as if I have memories of having "it" before. However shortly after acheiving it I went into a seizure, and i still don't know if that was a result of my drug pattern the 24 hrs b4 or if my brain came to some realization that it's not meant to come to. For the purpose of my quest i really hope it is not the ladder.
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Re: Searching for "it" on acid.... [Re: ny2casports89]
#7781378 - 12/20/07 12:15 PM (16 years, 6 months ago) |
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^Well, what was your use the previous 24 hours?
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Re: Searching for "it" on acid.... [Re: Ness1]
#7781422 - 12/20/07 12:25 PM (16 years, 6 months ago) |
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I've seen it happening to few people I've tripped with. It looked like they couldn't find peace in themselves before they've found "it". Apparently "it" remained unfound.
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ny2casports89
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Re: Searching for "it" on acid.... [Re: Individual]
#7781452 - 12/20/07 12:33 PM (16 years, 6 months ago) |
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I had been up the entire night before on adderoll studying for finals, and supplemented with a lot of caffeine throught he night and next morning. Then i napped from 4 to 7 pm then candyflipped around 730, 3 pills 2 tabs. My memories of the trip are extremely vague, but are indescribable. I have one memory in particular, one of my last where i had felt as if I created a reality for myself that was as close to perfect as can be imagined, every action had an infinitly better reaction, All i could mutter was this is to perfect.
Apparently i had gone into a seizure around 11. I feel as if i had gone 100x further than before on this quest, unfortunatly nearly all was lost. And worst of all I now have a fear of continuting the quest since I am unsure what caused the seizure.
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Re: Searching for "it" on acid.... [Re: ny2casports89]
#7781475 - 12/20/07 12:38 PM (16 years, 6 months ago) |
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I actually found "it" the first time I took acid... But as quick as "it" came, "it" vanished just as fast
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Re: Searching for "it" on acid.... [Re: ny2casports89]
#7782278 - 12/20/07 04:34 PM (16 years, 6 months ago) |
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ny2casports89 said: Ok i'm going to start off this post with a disclaimer, if you don't understand what I'm saying, I am fully aware that it will sound completely insane so if thats the case please keep your comments to yourself.
So theres this idea that I am always drawn to while on acid. I call it an idea because there are no words that can describe it. And if there are no words that can describe what it is, then how does my brain understand it? The idea had to of gotten there some how, and it certainly wasn't explained to me since it cannot be explained.
I've met several other people who have discovered this and have had conversations about it that probably made no sense at all, but since we both are aware of the idea that's being discussed, we are able to make some sense of our impossible attempts to explain the unexplainable.
There are more in depth things about this I would like to discuss with people however I feel like this is enough information to reach the kind of people i'm looking to reach...
I didn't even read what you wrote, my best friend and I have tripped for a long time, and "it" is something we have discussed for years. One thing we don't do when we are tripping hard is ask the question "what is it", that always fucks us up real bad. Sometimes i think it's a cycle thought of some sort, and "it" is merely the tripping itself, but that is only a fools hope to stabilize this concept, "it" is actually that which lies beyond reality, that which you get a taste of, but haven't the ability to understand, under lucid conditions. i always feel like I am going to eject from reality when I think about "it" too hard while tripping, oneday though, as one of my goals, I want to be able to give "it" a better name, and be able to explain to people just what "it" is. Its funny you use the same exact terminology as my friend and I. too bad you don't live near me, we could experiment with this. Peace
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I think its just the drugs
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Re: Searching for "it" on acid.... [Re: myrealname]
#7782943 - 12/20/07 07:21 PM (16 years, 6 months ago) |
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"just drugs" just experiences, just feelings just existence just nothing right?
just nothing.... just nothing....
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Re: Searching for "it" on acid.... [Re: ny2casports89]
#7782972 - 12/20/07 07:25 PM (16 years, 6 months ago) |
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ny2casports89 said: I had been up the entire night before on adderoll studying for finals, and supplemented with a lot of caffeine throught he night and next morning. Then i napped from 4 to 7 pm then candyflipped around 730, 3 pills 2 tabs. My memories of the trip are extremely vague, but are indescribable. I have one memory in particular, one of my last where i had felt as if I created a reality for myself that was as close to perfect as can be imagined, every action had an infinitly better reaction, All i could mutter was this is to perfect.
Apparently i had gone into a seizure around 11. I feel as if i had gone 100x further than before on this quest, unfortunatly nearly all was lost. And worst of all I now have a fear of continuting the quest since I am unsure what caused the seizure.
when candyflipping, dont eat the acid and ecstasy together.
take acid first, then wait 4 hours to take the e. otherwise you wont get a "true" candyflip, you'll just be extremly messed up on 2 diff chemicals vying for control of your brain.
my 2 cents
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Re: Searching for "it" on acid.... [Re: ny2casports89]
#7783008 - 12/20/07 07:35 PM (16 years, 6 months ago) |
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I felt "it" the first time I ate mushrooms. Felt like the meaning of life was being revealed to me. I slapped myself on the forehead and just said "WOW! I've been taking it all for granted. This is IT!!"
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Re: Searching for "it" on acid.... [Re: krin]
#7783033 - 12/20/07 07:48 PM (16 years, 6 months ago) |
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word krin
i know exactly the feeling of it. On my first trip at the end of the day i felt like i was awash in "It", and that everything in the universe was perfect in its utterly tragic existence. I fell asleep that night wondering if i would hold on to this feeling forever. I woke up as unenlightened as ever.
an unrelated though: One thing i read in a book (Mushroom Wisdom: how shamans cultivate spiritual consciousness), is that there is no "hidden truth" or perhaps what we are referring to as "It". The book encourages using the insight provided from entheogens to learn about yourself and cleanse your heart, rather than chasing the white rabbit all the time. (i also consider this different that seeing just how deep the rabbit hole goes. both of these are just metaphors that involve a rabbit.) with mushrooms i feel very much in tune with "It", but this could be a very different sort of It, as everything perfectly has its place in existence.
Could ego loss be considered becoming one with "It"?
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Re: Searching for "it" on acid.... [Re: ny2casports89]
#7783115 - 12/20/07 08:03 PM (16 years, 6 months ago) |
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'It' is hard to describe with words because the modern English language doesn't have that word.
Its like a child trying to explain the inter-workings of a nuclear reaction; until the experience has been examined with much time it will not be explained.
Remember its been less than a century since our modern society has had these experiences. I think the closest word to it is psychedelic, a term created to describe this mind manifestation that has no other English explanation.
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"it" is you. and together WE are "it".
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ny2casports89
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Re: Searching for "it" on acid.... [Re: john706]
#7783353 - 12/20/07 08:39 PM (16 years, 6 months ago) |
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john706 said:
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ny2casports89 said: I had been up the entire night before on adderoll studying for finals, and supplemented with a lot of caffeine throught he night and next morning. Then i napped from 4 to 7 pm then candyflipped around 730, 3 pills 2 tabs. My memories of the trip are extremely vague, but are indescribable. I have one memory in particular, one of my last where i had felt as if I created a reality for myself that was as close to perfect as can be imagined, every action had an infinitly better reaction, All i could mutter was this is to perfect.
Apparently i had gone into a seizure around 11. I feel as if i had gone 100x further than before on this quest, unfortunatly nearly all was lost. And worst of all I now have a fear of continuting the quest since I am unsure what caused the seizure.
when candyflipping, dont eat the acid and ecstasy together.
take acid first, then wait 4 hours to take the e. otherwise you wont get a "true" candyflip, you'll just be extremly messed up on 2 diff chemicals vying for control of your brain.
my 2 cents
Thanks for the advice, I actually hated candyflipping, even before the seizure and it was becasue of exactly what you said, I was extremely messed up on 2 differnt chemicals. I wanted to enjoy the benefits of both drugs simultaniously but instead they canceled each other out and I just felt retarded until the e started to wear off. Unfortunatley I think that experience may have scared me out of experimenting w/ that again.
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ny2casports89
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Re: Searching for "it" on acid.... [Re: ny2casports89]
#7783388 - 12/20/07 08:44 PM (16 years, 6 months ago) |
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For those that claim that "it" cannot be understood, or that the english language has not yet been developed enough to talk about it, then why not as a community try to reach a better understanding?
A few trips ago while thinking about "it" I thought of the idea of open source software, and how it usually ends up creating the best software out there since as a community it is being worked on and all flaws are eventually worked out. As ridiculous as this may sound this gave me the idea of open sourcing acid or psycidellics in general. Creating a community to try to find a better understanding of "it" whether it is possible or not. And then that made me think that i'm probably not the first person to think this, so this community could infact already exist...
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Re: Searching for "it" on acid.... [Re: ny2casports89]
#7783509 - 12/20/07 09:12 PM (16 years, 6 months ago) |
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When people give me dirty looks or I see a news broadcast about something tragic or about war or an ad about some new ultimately-useless product or when I see cops arresting a homeless person or when I see squeezing past others on the sidewalk when there's grass all around or when my phone rings and its someone wanting something from me besides a conversation or when I see fancy expensive cars with supposedly unselfish bumper stickers that is when mushrooms make me feel it-y
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Re: Searching for "it" on acid.... [Re: ny2casports89]
#7784148 - 12/21/07 12:26 AM (16 years, 6 months ago) |
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The more you talk about it, the harder it is to get there...
It is beyond words, beyond God; It is where God comes from.
It occurs during the moment of laughter or Love, when time slows to a halt and "you go" where time comes from. The source of the form.
It also infers the opposite of itself, and in times of stress and great dismay you will exerience it, and it will always end up okay.
A goal I like to think I achieved is that it is Viscerally and Sadistically attacking me with Love and Laughter.
It's all good though. I like it...Shhh!
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